building and strenthening shoulders?

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  1. AxeGrinder Purple Belt

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    I'm trying to build up my shoulders and strenthen them...mostly to increase my punching power. I already do an incline press twice a week and uprights, is there anything else I could do to strenthen and build up my shoulders? thanks....
     
  2. wenispinkle Skankin' It Easy...

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    its all about the push press....

    http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/OlympicLifts/PushPress.html


    and also, incline press is really more of a chest movement, unless your reeallly inclined, in which case its almost a military press sort of....which is really stupid

    and upright rows work the back, the trapezius muscle. but its understandable as to why you would think its shoulders since you can see them from the front
     
  3. T-Man Guest

    standing military press... push press looks good too tho
     
  4. fdny92 Blue Belt

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    Handstand push-ups, make your shoulders very strong, build then up too.

    Good Luck
     
  5. PariahCarey Purple Belt

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    Incline press IS going to work the shoulders especially if you use heavy weight, also bench press of course. Upright row Will work your rear delts. However power cleans are my all time favorite exercise and not only have they made my rear delts huge, my entire back and hamstrings. I have a questoin however?
    How is this going to increase your punching power?You don't punch with just your shoulders do you?You should think about doing power/compound movements. I never work my front delts. They are huge from simply benching. And throwing punches does work your shoulders but i'm not sure thats the apex thats going to generate more punching power, i suppose it could, but when you talk about increasing punching power...its a matter of technique, style, power, and some would say possibly genetic forces at work...its an interesting topic but not so simple to pin down.
     
  6. Reakt Green Belt

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    most of the punching power comes from legs and core not the shoulder.
     
  7. moodymikey Blue Belt

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    Push Presses will build up strength no doubt, but to buld your shoulders completely you need to do a variet of exercises that raget the different muscle groups in your shoulder
     
  8. Julo Orange Belt

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    over the years I have had enough front deltoid work from overhead, incline & bench presses

    so for the rest of my imbalanced shoulders I now focus on face pulls, bent rows as well as the reverse pec deck
     
  9. E C Monee Guest

    If you stick to the basics you should be fine. My shoulders grew quite rapidly from the beginning of my intro to weights 10+ years ago. Mainly doing presses, incline/flat barbell and dumbell press as well as military press with barbell and dumbells, then again I usto military press over 275. On that note though my shoulders now get inflamed easily if i do alot of direct shoulder work, as someone has stated stick with the compound exercises and you should be fine, as well your punching power comes from the hips not your shoulder.

    GL,
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  10. AxeGrinder Purple Belt

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    alright, thanks alot guys, and by increasing punching power I just meant from getting more mass, believe me I know you dont punch with your shoulders....
     
  11. Wrecking Ball Orange Belt

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    Building shoulders: Seated DB overhead press
     
  12. STILL LIFE Yellow Belt

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    Military press and dumbell shoulder shrugs work for me.
     
  13. E C Monee Guest

    You aren't gonna build much shoulders with shrugs but you'll build some nice Traps
     
  14. Urban Savage Mystic

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    DB overhead press. gotta love em.
     
  15. Zeirhk Green Belt

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    Are L-flyes any good ? Like a lateral raise but with a bent arm.
     
  16. Fedorable Continues without supporting Sherdog.

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    not really an ideal exercise for strength.
     
  17. Funkster Green Belt

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    Why do seated if you can stand?

    I'm doing my Military Press seated at the moment due to a combination of low ceilings and long arms, but if you can do them standing there's no excuse not to.
     
  18. LiverThrow Blue Belt

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    Pressing is king, you wont need anything else

    sitting behind the neck barbell presses
    front barbell presses
    standing barbell presses
    smith front presses
    smith behind the neck presses

    (Important! only go to ear level and then back up to avoid injury on all shoulder pressing movements)
     
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    Liver throw has either successfully trolled or has given some of the worst advice I've ever seen on this board...
     
  20. E C Monee Guest

    Behind the neck anything is asking for it
    smith machine is gay and I mean GAY, if you can't handle the poundage with free weights you have no business trying it on smith machine

    My favorites where military press in front of head although I usto do behind once in a while and regret it now with my shoulder problems

    and dumbell presses you can't go wrong
     

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