Media Buckley to Ariel: When fighters come on your show, you try to use us as weapons against the UFC with your platform, setting us up with questions

[CasualBot]

Buckley & Hill pretending their shitty negotiating with an employer is (weaponized and somehow) Ariel's wrong-doing.

This is the fight business.

Thicken that skin.

Grade school kids go through more real life & online confrontation than these grown men.
Add social media to any adult,
and watch them crumble into children,
creating online diaries. Treading comments.
New Guru inspirations from questionable people.

Yet... only in MMA is Ariel triggering simps more than fuckin 300lbs of John Morgan.
Clearly, y'all relate more to fat people who are corporate shills, more than actual fan-based questions into the conflicts of a man or a fight, or a business of fighting.

Guy is a chameleon. One moment he's acting as a hype man for Francis signing with PFL, going on about how the UFC doesn't matter. The next, he's interviewing MVP regarding signing with UFC over PFL, talking about how the UFC is all that matters.

You want Ariel to be biased and play faves?
That is John Morgan.

The fuck kind of kook logic is that?

 

[blaseblase]

There is no issue. Just calling out Ariel's double standard.

For saying the UFC isn't the best org for some fighters? That's not a double standard, that's just you not understanding nuance. Ngannou clearly made the right move to leave the UFC and Helwani recognized that. What, did you expect him to shit on Ngannou for leaving like half of sherdog did?

Fighters like Phil Davis, Ryan Bader, Cory Anderson make more in Bellator than they did in the UFC.

Fighters like Chandler and Holland maximized their potential by becoming stars in another org and then jumping ship at the end of their careers for big fights.

Then on the other hand the UFC is the best org for some fighters. Low level prelim guys may only make 12k but it's more than they would make on the Bellator prelims. And UFC champs as a whole make more than Bellator champs. The situation is different for every fighter.

 

[SuspectChin]

For saying the UFC isn't the best org for some fighters? That's not a double standard, that's just you not understanding nuance. Ngannou clearly made the right move to leave the UFC and Helwani recognized that. What, did you expect him to shit on Ngannou for leaving like half of sherdog did?

Fighters like Phil Davis, Ryan Bader, Cory Anderson make more in Bellator than they did in the UFC.

Fighters like Chandler and Holland maximized their potential by becoming stars in another org and then jumping ship at the end of their careers for big fights.

Then on the other hand the UFC is the best org for some fighters. Low level prelim guys may only make 12k but it's more than they would make on the Bellator prelims. And UFC champs as a whole make more than Bellator champs. The situation is different for every fighter.

You're preaching to the choir and I actually agree with many of your points.

I suppose I need to reiterate since many are taking my initial quotes out of context. Was never intended to be a UFC vs such and so organization (or which is more beneficial for fighters etc.) but rather how hypocritical and two-face Ariel can be in order to benefit a current narrative or theme. Like the entire Dillon Danis charade.

Helwani goes on an entire tirade about how nauseating and agonizing it is for him to interview Danis (about how he's a pathological liar, a bitch, attention whore etc.) and that he wont be bringing him back on his show because he doesn't like liars and doesn't like feeding trolls. Fast forward a few months later and he's promoting Danis' next fight (in addition to bringing him back on MMA Hour), cackling it up with one another like they're bbfs.

There are several other similar instances. He (Ariel) likes to have his cake and eat it too.

 

[IDGETKTFO]

Buckley can fight quite well, but thinking isn’t his strong suit.

Yeah even before watching the clip i knew he wasn't going to win that debate.

 

[Pechan]

Whats funny about shit like this is that in every other sport what the athletes make is public information, I get not wanting the world to know how much money you have but thats the price to pay for being a professional athlete, fighters actually discussing how much they make instead of being so secretive would actually help them in the long run, the only ones that benefit from no one knowing how much the other makes is the UFC and that is why they incentivize that behavior.

 

[Shogun515]

Weird statement and weird demeanor by Buckley.

I listened to the podcast and he couldn't come up with examples or back up his statements in any way. Its like he said what he said just to get in good graces with UFC or something.

 

[JustforBROCK]

He's right. I dont go out of my way to watch Helwani, but I respect what he's done with his craft, the way he's carried himself, and the way he stood up to Dana white and the UFC ... BUT ... you dont do that to fighters. Its between YOU and the UFC and the fighters shouldnt get caught in that.

 

[JustforBROCK]

Whats funny about shit like this is that in every other sport what the athletes make is public information, I get not wanting the world to know how much money you have but thats the price to pay for being a professional athlete, fighters actually discussing how much they make instead of being so secretive would actually help them in the long run, the only ones that benefit from no one knowing how much the other makes is the UFC and that is why they incentivize that behavior.

Every other sport has a Athletes Union. thats the difference. If all the champs decided they were going to unionize Dana wouldnt be able to stop it and everything would change.

 

[Question]

I don't like either guy very much tbh

 

[Scurvydawg]

This guy sounds like he has been talking to Dana and porky Pimpleton to much.