Social Bryce Mitchel Falls Off The Deep end.

[PhitePhan]

He's probably referencing the Institut für Sexualwissenschaft.

The Institute was headed by Magnus Hirschfeld, who since 1897 had run the world's first homosexual organization Wissenschaftlich-humanitäres Komitee(Scientific-Humanitarian Committee), which campaigned on progressive and rationalgrounds for LGBT rights and tolerance at the start of the first homosexual movement that would flourish in interwar Weimar culture.

 

[Anewt]

Sometimes in life you just need to STFU. You are referring to what I believe to be the slippery slope method but the thing here is there needs to be a separation between opinion and facts. He was wrong and there are consequences for being wrong. Name me any credible history class in the world that teaches about Hitler and World War 2 and if anyone said what Bryce did they would and should fail the class. No questions asked.

I get what you're saying but saying dumb shit has consequences and no one should be defending stupidity. This is the same guy who did the "research" and after all his "research" he believes the Bible word for word, he does not believe in seatbelts, he believes in a flat Earth and now that Hitler was a 'good guy'. You look at it as censoring his opinions but I look at it similar to my history analogy. If a history or science teacher went to a class and taught the same thing Bryce believes in they would never be able to teach in any public or private school in the country (possibly even the world) except maybe Arkansas, and those same teachers would lose their livelihoods not because of their opinion but because they were wrong.

The problem is the draconian enforcement of ideals and history. Having the power of the narrative is precisely how the nszis enforced and gained their power. Your concept is great because it aligns with yours ( and mine ) version of history. It doesnt mean that very same logic wont be aligned with heinous or stupid ideas at a later date. . Ie slavery. Flatearth . Blasphemy etc etc.

Hes a dumbass and clearly wrong obviously and its a simple debunk. Let him speak . Trying to silence stupidity only gives it more value . And eventually things that are " certainties" in our history and idealogy shift. ( eugenics evolution flatearth colonization etc etc )

Im not confident enough that we'vee got it all figured out yet to the point we refuse to allow questions and a different opinion ( as stupid as i find his individually) he gets punched in the head for a living afterall.

Let all the dumbasses openly gather and discuss the stupidity at least we'll all know who they are hah

 

[Deadwing88]

The Institute was headed by Magnus Hirschfeld, who since 1897 had run the world's first homosexual organization Wissenschaftlich-humanitäres Komitee(Scientific-Humanitarian Committee), which campaigned on progressive and rationalgrounds for LGBT rights and tolerance at the start of the first homosexual movement that would flourish in interwar Weimar culture.

Yeah, Bryce isn't particularly wrong with the underlying historical context.

The Nazis looted and burned the contents of the Institute library (Hirschfeld was a very well known Jewish figure in Berlin).

 

[mahavishnunj]

Are you trying (unsuccessfully) to be funny?

No, why do you ask?

 

[Darkavius]

The problem is the draconian enforcement of ideals and history. Having the power of the narrative is precisely how the nszis enforced and gained their power. Your concept is great because it aligns with yours ( and mine ) version of history. It doesnt mean that very same logic wont be aligned with heinous or stupid ideas at a later date. . Ie slavery. Flatearth . Blasphemy etc etc.

Hes a dumbass and clearly wrong obviously and its a simple debunk. Let him speak . Trying to silence stupidity only gives it more value . And eventually things that are " certainties" in our history and idealogy shift. ( eugenics evolution flatearth colonization etc etc )

Im not confident enough that we'vee got it all figured out yet to the point we refuse to allow questions and a different opinion ( as stupid as i find his individually) he gets punched in the head for a living afterall.

Let all the dumbasses openly gather and discuss the stupidity at least we'll all know who they are hah

Let me be clear. I don't want him silenced but the point I was trying to make is stupidity has consequences. I can say I don't believe in seatbelts but I can also refer to Derrick Thomas, a former Linebacker with the Chiefs, and see what happened to him when he didn't wear a seatbelt. Difference of opinion is just fine and happens all the time but opinion and facts are two different things. Bryce can think Hitler was a 'good guy' but the fact is he is wrong. I saw a response from Sean Strickland about this and when Sean Strickland is the voice of reason between those two people you know there's a problem here. On a side note, there should be plenty of confidence that Nazi's are shit human beings and Hitler was a terrible human being.

 

[Andy Capp]

No, why do you ask?

To receive an answer. Nothing further.

 

[Rational Poster]

Dana said he's not going to cut this can. Miguel Torres rolling in the grave of his career.

 

[randomg1t]

Ironically, censoring people and destroying their livelihoods over personal opinions is more in line with Nazis than anything.

no it's not. the nazis weren't censoring people over personal opinions.

the events of the holocaust are not personal opinions. they are a historical fact. lying about them is historical revision and is always done with the agenda of normalizing nationalistic / racist bullshit. there is absolutely no reason why people who hold abhorrent views and spread hateful misinformation should not face consequences. if you want to be a monumental dickwad, society will shun you. and rightfully so.

a tolerant society needs to have no tolerance for intolerance. it's framed as a paradox, but it really isn't.

 

[Domitian]

I doubt he's going to get cut, but Hunter Campbell has probably already called him and had a little conversation with him.

 

[Cajun]

Dana said he's not going to cut this can. Miguel Torres rolling in the grave of his career.

Yeah I watched that. I was surprised but not surprised. Some things do go too far imo. Surprised Ari Emmanuel (Jewish CEO of Endeaver) didn't apply some pressure. I have a feeling he may get some unfavorable matchups and get cut tho.

 

[Rational Poster]

Yeah I watched that. I was surprised but not surprised. Some things do go too far imo. Surprised Ari Emmanuel (Jewish CEO of Endeaver) didn't apply some pressure. I have a feeling he may get some unfavorable matchups and get cut tho.

Miguel was a much better fighter than this can ever was. I guess he had the wrong last name.

Michael Towers might have kept his job.

 

[Cajun]

The problem is the draconian enforcement of ideals and history. Having the power of the narrative is precisely how the nszis enforced and gained their power. Your concept is great because it aligns with yours ( and mine ) version of history. It doesnt mean that very same logic wont be aligned with heinous or stupid ideas at a later date. . Ie slavery. Flatearth . Blasphemy etc etc.

Hes a dumbass and clearly wrong obviously and its a simple debunk. Let him speak . Trying to silence stupidity only gives it more value . And eventually things that are " certainties" in our history and idealogy shift. ( eugenics evolution flatearth colonization etc etc )

Im not confident enough that we'vee got it all figured out yet to the point we refuse to allow questions and a different opinion ( as stupid as i find his individually) he gets punched in the head for a living afterall.

Let all the dumbasses openly gather and discuss the stupidity at least we'll all know who they are hah

It's more about working for a company that you are bound. Saying I hate black people and wish them enslaved again when my boss is black may cost me my job. People are ultimately free to say what they want but there may be consequences for that. The company said it will let him stay so that's that but it doesn't mean that they couldn't take action either.

 

[Cajun]

Miguel was a much better fighter than this can ever was. I guess he had the wrong last name.

Michael Towers might have kept his job.

I'm unaware or don't remember this story. Going to look it up now.

 

[Rational Poster]

I'm unaware or don't remember this story. Going to look it up now.

It was a while ago, but IIRC, he made a "rape van" type of joke and got released from the UFC over it.

 

[Cajun]

It was a while ago, but IIRC, he made a "rape van" type of joke and got released from the UFC over it.

Yeah just read that. Yeah guess there was no free speech for him there. And you are right. He was better than Bryce. Who is Michael Towers? I can't find him

 

[Source]

The problem is the draconian enforcement of ideals and history. Having the power of the narrative is precisely how the nszis enforced and gained their power. Your concept is great because it aligns with yours ( and mine ) version of history. It doesnt mean that very same logic wont be aligned with heinous or stupid ideas at a later date. . Ie slavery. Flatearth . Blasphemy etc etc.

Hes a dumbass and clearly wrong obviously and its a simple debunk. Let him speak . Trying to silence stupidity only gives it more value . And eventually things that are " certainties" in our history and idealogy shift. ( eugenics evolution flatearth colonization etc etc )

Im not confident enough that we'vee got it all figured out yet to the point we refuse to allow questions and a different opinion ( as stupid as i find his individually) he gets punched in the head for a living afterall.

Let all the dumbasses openly gather and discuss the stupidity at least we'll all know who they are hah

Do you think antisemitism flourishes because it’s condemned or when it gets ignored? People like him have a right to express themselves. They should also be roundly mocked and exposed for such opinions. It’s not only our right to do so but our duty.

 

[badascan]

I like Bryce, he's genuine in spite of others judgement. He's a guy who's seeking and learning and he's putting his money where his mouth is.

 

[Domitian]

You can't compare Miguel Torres with a ranked fighter. You also can't compare the UFC of now to the UFC of then. There's been many changes within the UFC since that time.

 

[Islam Imamate]

The Institute was headed by Magnus Hirschfeld, who since 1897 had run the world's first homosexual organization Wissenschaftlich-humanitäres Komitee(Scientific-Humanitarian Committee), which campaigned on progressive and rationalgrounds for LGBT rights and tolerance at the start of the first homosexual movement that would flourish in interwar Weimar culture.

What is the point of posting this? Are you trying to lend credence to what Bryce was saying?

The problem is the draconian enforcement of ideals and history. Having the power of the narrative is precisely how the nszis enforced and gained their power. Your concept is great because it aligns with yours ( and mine ) version of history. It doesnt mean that very same logic wont be aligned with heinous or stupid ideas at a later date. . Ie slavery. Flatearth . Blasphemy etc etc.

Hes a dumbass and clearly wrong obviously and its a simple debunk. Let him speak . Trying to silence stupidity only gives it more value . And eventually things that are " certainties" in our history and idealogy shift. ( eugenics evolution flatearth colonization etc etc )

Im not confident enough that we'vee got it all figured out yet to the point we refuse to allow questions and a different opinion ( as stupid as i find his individually) he gets punched in the head for a living afterall.

Let all the dumbasses openly gather and discuss the stupidity at least we'll all know who they are hah

No one is saying Bryce should be locked up but there's also nothing wrong with shunning people with heinous ideas like what Bryce is saying.

 

[markantony20]

If the UFC decided to cut him to protect their brand or their bottom line that would be one thing. But for people from afar, with no connection or stake in the company, wanting to see Bryce cut simply to be punished for offensive opinions...well that's just completely ridiculous. Ironically, censoring people and destroying their livelihoods over personal opinions is more in line with Nazis than anything.

Punishing Bryce for his statements about Hitler is way more dangerous to society than his actual statements

I don’t think it’s more impactful than holocaust denial