Brock Lesnar NFL Highlights; "A-Level Athlete"?

[fatlipjesus]

Yeah but he hasn't done real wrestling in like 6+ years and gained the skill back and adapted it to mma quick

That ass though



err sry, distracted by your av

 

[mike sherry]

I'm not arguing that football is a superior sport because of a greater talent pool, or that Handegg isn't a legitimate sport. I like them both, I would probably follow the NFL if it were more accessible for me. However guys like Brock and more importantly Stephen Neal, do make the sport slightly less legit as a purely sporting event over a purely athletic one. Again, not saying that Handegg is purely athletic, but sport is not just about raw athleticism.

Also, I call it Handegg because that's what it is, deal with it.



And still...

Look, you are being a little bitch. You come into a thread to shit on american football because you can tell that obvioisly football is way more physically demanding than soccer. Spare me the pathetic bitching. We all can tell what you are trying to do.

 

[Sgt Smith]

I followed his attempt since I'd been a fan of his collegiate wrestling career. Great athlete, mediocre ball player. Too many guys have been drafted from D1 over the years based on their stats that had similar issues. Understanding and loving the game can produce a much better ball player than just raw athleticism. Granted, you can't be a dud athletically and succeed in the big leagues either.

 

[DrHouse]

Look, you are being a little bitch. You come into a thread to shit on american football because you can tell that obvioisly football is way more physically demanding than soccer. Spare me the pathetic bitching. We all can tell what you are trying to do.

Aww, is someone a little upset that I pointed out his projecting? Chill out bro, it's just an internet forum.

 

[Sgt Smith]

Then there's The Nigerian Nightmare.

 

[Chillez]

His NFL combine statistics are better than J.J Watt's. He's clearly a superior athlete than most "A Level" NFL guys.

Terrible ball player though.

I wouldn't say terrible at football just doesn't have the skill set or the technique to play at that level.

 

[Quantum Leap]

the guy only played high school football and I doubt he took it very seriously, he gave it a go in the NFL based off just pure athletic ability. Brock isn't that big however compared to a lot of linemen, Brock is lean and didn't carry the weight of NFL lineman. If Brock really really wanted to play in NFL, I think he had the ability to do so.

 

[Hester65]

The raw numbers were there. The last play on that video you can see the closing speed. He wasn't very versed in the technical aspects of shedding blocks or hand fighting in the interior.

It's hard to gain those skills in a short period of time. Usually takes a long high school and college career to understand how to position yourself to out leverage others and get in place to make plays (or cover gaps).

That doesn't make the guys of the NFL better athletes, though. It makes them more skilled for the sport they are trying to play. There are freak athletes in every major sport that are there based on insane numbers that coaches and scouts hope they can refine into specifically skilled individuals.

 

[Gamer2k4]

Then there's The Nigerian Nightmare.

I can't believe this is the first I've ever heard of him. Thanks for the link.

 

[EvilManny]

Didn't JDS smoke him in the football based coaches challenge.

I think we understate how athletic some of the UFC HW division os

 

[Viking Power]

Well tightend anyways, any other positions? I think the skill set u need for tightend is similar to basketball

Exactly. It's not a matter of basketball being a harder sport to succeed at than football.

 

[Voodoo_Child906]

This is why actual football (soccer to you 'Muricans) is superior as a sport to Handegg. There is not and has never been a man on this planet who could take 10 years away from Football and actually make a top flight teams practice squad. Let alone a guy like Stephen Neal, who didn't play for at least 4 years, then went on to win the highest prize in the sport.

Oh Soccer again...

 

[ShreddinMMA]

Why would his performance in a sport he has barely anything to do with determine anything about athleticism?

I've read plenty or articles listing he often lacked the needed technique to play.

 

[KOskater]

I stumbled upon this video of Brock Lesnar playing for the Minnesota Vikings back in 2004:



I think the thing that surprised me most is just how ordinary, or even sub-par, he looked. Yes, I understand this was his first attempt at football in nearly a decade (and he had only ever played high school ball), and to make even the practice squad of a professional football team with nothing but pure physical ability is absolutely remarkable. Still, when surrounded by similarly massive linemen, Lesnar loses that "specimen" mystique that he has in both the UFC and the WWE.

We talk a lot about how the best athletes in the world aren't in MMA; they're earning real money in more prolific sports. Does Lesnar's short stint in the NFL prove that? Or does it prove just the opposite - that on pure natural talent and next to no actual training and experience, Lesnar could hang with the pros regardless of all of their supposed advantages, and they're not all the incredible athletes we make them out to be? (For context, if we assume each of the 32 NFL teams has 6-7 defensive lineman, that makes Lesnar in the top 200 in the WORLD - and that's with no prior experience whatsoever.)

EDIT: Sorry the link doesn't embed properly. At least you can still watch it on YouTube.

They confirmed he's an NFL athlete but didn't have the skill and would have to be in the European minors for ~2 years before he saw play in the US.

Pretty similar to his UFC carrer coasted on size, massive roids and little skill besides wrestling.

 

[1King]

Being a fighter takes more skill and training than it does to be an effective linemen.

Brock walked in MMA and became a world champ. He walked into football and got cut.

It's because he isn't overwhelming guys physically at that level. Brock looks huge, but a very SMALL offensive linemen in the nfl is 6'2 and 290+, so it's hard to just ragdoll these guys like he did MMA fighters.

 

[shanegotu11]

More freak athletes in other sports right now.

 

[muaythaibeast]

lol, there's not a single soccer player that could make a handegg team

There's not a single handegg player that could make a football team, so its a bit of a moot point really

 

[lorenzofertatta]

This obsession with NFL combine numbers... I bet any of the olympic weightlifting medalists would destroy vertical jump numbers and the 40 yd dash part (why 40 yards, why not an international sprint standard of 60 meters?) Still none of them would stand a chance in the sport.
Also, benchpress as a measurement of athleticism? What a joke.

 

[lorenzofertatta]

Didn't JDS smoke him in the football based coaches challenge.

I think we understate how athletic some of the UFC HW division os

Or perhaps overrate the football players?

 

[Givvee]

Stephen Neal, the guy that beat Brock twice in the NCAA championships, played in the NFL without any prior experience and won a couple Superbowl rings.

Stephen Neal was also a wrestler and won the world championships 1999 and was just edged at the olympic trials, he was really a very special athlete and much better technical wrestler than Lesnar. What Brock was able to do in the world of wrestling.