Brock Lesnar beats Francis Ngannou

[Phisher]

So you disargue with the claim Ubereem was more well rounded. So you disagree that Ubereem was a better grappler than Ngannou?

No, I disagree that Ngannou would be easy for Brock to take down and control.

Where did Overeem's superior grappling skills get him when he fought Ngannou? Ngannou easily stuffed his TD attempt and manhandled him in the clinch.

 

[StylesMakeFights101]

I'm serious. I think a prime Lesnar or a Lesnar right now with some white boy acai infused beats Ngannou.

Obviously the match could go one of two ways - Ngannou knocks Lesnar out on the feet or Lesnar takes him down and likely finishes him via GnP or a sub from the top.

The outcome would be very variable, but I would bet on Lesnar. If Stipe 50-44 wrestlefucked him then Lesnar does unless he's caught and does the crab

Lmfao

 

[HHJ]

No, I disagree that Ngannou would be easy for Brock to take down and control.

Where did Overeem's superior grappling skills get him when he fought Ngannou? Ngannou easily stuffed his TD attempt and manhandled him in the clinch.

Overeem isnt half the takedown artist Brawk is.

Or was,anyway.

But i still think Ngannou lands early and brock starts runnin and fallin over.

 

[A.S. Deep]

Fucking dunce. I said the he isn't easy to take down and the he only got "held down" after he gassed, which is true.

In the first round, he either stuffed Stipe's TDs or managed to get back up to his feet. He ended the round standing.

He also stuffed Blaydes multiple times and got off of his back in their first fight when he was much less experienced.

Stipe was so gassed that from controlling Ngannou in middle rounds that he couldn't even take him down in the fifth and had to resort to wall and stall to ride out the clock.

The notion that the guy is easy to take down and control in top position is ridiculous. He's beaten several wrestlers and only got handled by the top guy in the division.

Yep.

The only guy that did what Stipe did to Ngannou... is Stipe.

And Stipe had to outbox him first too. And the only guy to outbox Ngannou... is also Stipe.

People keep acting like outwrestling Ngannou is easy.

 

[Phisher]

Overeem isnt half the takedown artist Brawk is.

Or was,anyway.

But i still think Ngannou lands early and brock starts runnin and fallin over.

Definitely, I was just illustrating that superior grappling acumen means dick if you can't take your opponent down.

Brock would probably be able to get an early TD or at the very least spend some time controlling Ngannou on the fence, but Ngannou would be able to land something, and we know how poorly Brock deals with power shots.

 

[Phisher]

Yep.

The only guy that did what Stipe did to Ngannou... is Stipe.

And Stipe had to outbox him first too. And the only guy to outbox Ngannou... is also Stipe.

People keep acting like outwrestling Ngannou is easy.

If his grappling were as bad as people make out, he would've been cut by the UFC after his first few fights.


His first four UFC opponents were all experienced grapplers. Blaydes and Hamilton are stud wrestlers. Also, Ngannou doesn't get nearly enough credit for pulling that power kimura on Hamilton, who's a BJJ black belt.

 

[danny23]

Lesnar can’t take a shot, is hittable and Francis hits like an ox. The wind from one of Francis’ punches would make Lesnar turtle up.

Prime or no prime Lesnar doesn’t last 30 seconds.

 

[Bangkok ready d1]

No, people are acting like francis is an easy guy to take down, the only one who was able to do this was stipe, brock is arguably a better wrestler than stipe, byt stipe was only able to take ngannou down cause of boxing defence and head movement. Lesnar is a terrible striker and very stiff, 9/10 times he would get ko'd by ngannou

 

[MyFavSport]

I think Francis just had a bad night vs Stipe. And not just wrestling, Stipe and Francis actually were standing for much of the first two rounds and Francis just couldn't get going and Stipe was very patient actually. Brock I love you but no.

 

[Bend NvR Break]

I'm betting on Ngannou. One punch and Brock is turning his back to his opponent.

 

[rakeleaves]

Naganno the piece of shit

Brock wins if he can avoid getting hit at all.

That's a pretty big if. Francis wins this 9/10... people on this board are seriously underestimating Francis. Stipe doesn't want to rematch him for a reason.

 

[spinup]

The guy who ia 5-3, 1NC, finished 3 times in the ufc, destroyed by Cain and Overeem

Vs

The guy who is 10-2, never been finished, destroyed Cain and Overeem

Yeahh...sure, bet the house on the first guy.

 

[Bouboumaster]

Lesnar, aside of being a cheater, is underrated as hell, but c'mon.
Ngannou flatline him.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

Ngannou is Carwin with worse wrestling but taller, faster and hits even harder. Its possible that Brock manages to outwrestle him long enough that he gasses out, but the more likely outcome is Ngannou sends him breakdancing around the cage in the first round before his wrestling can even come into play.

 

[No Skill Gap]

Fucking dunce. I said the he isn't easy to take down and that he only got "held down" after he gassed, which is true.

In the first round, he either stuffed Stipe's TDs or managed to get back up to his feet. He ended the round standing.

He also stuffed Blaydes multiple times and got off of his back in their first fight when he was much less experienced.

Stipe was so gassed that from controlling Ngannou in middle rounds that he couldn't even take him down in the fifth and had to resort to wall and stall to ride out the clock.

The notion that the guy is easy to take down and control in top position is ridiculous. He's beaten several wrestlers and only got handled by the top guy in the division.

So your gifs are literally all in round 1 where Ngannou is wrestlefucked the entire round, solid case.

Brock is a better wrestler and much bigger than Stipe too, much stronger in his "prime"

 

[Russie]

Ngannou takes it easily. Especially if they fought now. Earlier when Ngannou was inexperienced and before Brock's diverticulitis it would be Brock winning.

 

[TheMessiah]

Ngannou by first round ko

 

[Viper2]

With proper MMA training, "The Great Gama" (the greatest wrestler that ever lived) could have beaten both Ngannou and Lesnar.

Here is "The Great Gama":

 

[johncola]

It's crazy that so many people think Brock would win this. They're overlooking how scared he is of heavy hitters. And either overrating his takedown abilities, or underrating Stipe's takedown abilities or Francis's TDD.

There are only a couple ways I can visualise this fight. First, and most likely, is Brock coming out timid, Francis pressuring him, landing a big shot, and ending it within 1 or 2 minutes. Second, is Francis initially taking his time a bit more, allowing Brock time to relax, and shoot; from there, Brock gets ahold of Francis, and maybe takes him down, but struggles to hold him down; they scramble, Francis lands some shots during the transition, fight is over. I just can't see Brock successfully avoiding Francis, successfully shooting, AND successfully holding Francis down while doing damage enough to end future threats.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

This goes without saying that teh flipped turtle would be completely helpless once Brock took him down.

I'm not sure that Ngannou hits harder than Hunt... maybe... but it's probably close.... & Brock took his shots as well as stood with him for an entire round when he didn't even have too... so this commentary that the 3 time UFC champ wouldn't' destoy Ngannou is unfounded.

...especially now that his gut disease is healed.​