International British SAS 'Killed 9 People in Their Beds', Inquiry Finds

[Strychnine]

Nothing will happen just like nothing happened to the operators who executed an unarmed OBL.

That was a capture or kill mission. The orders were explicit. "If he raises his hands to surrender, take him in. If he does anything else, take him down."



Remember when that one Navy Seal was brought up on charges for murdering a bound captive by cutting his throat?

Navy Seal pardoned of war crimes by Trump described by colleagues as 'freaking evil' | US military | The Guardian

Yeah, Pres. Trump pardoned him and gave him a pass.

 

[CyberRubberDuck]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67054702

UK special forces killed nine people "in their beds" during an Afghanistan night raid, an independent inquiry has heard.

Family members say the victims were unarmed civilians. The SAS had claimed they acted in self-defence.

Senior officers suspected troops of carrying out a policy of executing "fighting age" men even if they posed no threat.

The government announced the inquiry after BBC Panorama revealed an SAS squadron killed 54 people in suspicious circumstances on one six-month tour.

As substantive hearings got under way at the Royal Courts of Justice in London on Monday, UK special forces were accused of "abusing" night raids in order to commit "numerous" extra-judicial killings - which were allegedly later covered up.

Hundreds of deliberate detention operations were carried out by special forces between 2010 and 2013.

• SAS killings: How a scandal was uncovered
• UK Special Forces at centre of Afghan war crimes inquiry
• Plan to shut war crimes probe concerned minister

Lead counsel to the inquiry, Oliver Glasgow KC, set out the details of seven separate kill/capture missions involving the deaths of 33 people, including a number of children.

The alleged unlawful killings of the nine people in the Nad Ali district of Helmand is understood to have occurred as a number of families gathered before a wake on 7 February 2011.

They were sleeping in a single-roomed outbuilding.

The SAS said they had fired in self-defence having been fired upon. Mr Glasgow pointed out the low height of what appear to be bullet holes in the walls of the outbuilding, first revealed by the BBC last year.

Allegations of cover-ups of illegal activity and inadequate investigations by the Royal Military Police (RMP) will also be examined.

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Pretty crazy story that the inquiry has been able to cut through everything to basically dispute the stories told by those in charge at the time.

It will be interesting to see who gets charged with what and how far the inquiry is able to continue to go.

So it's ok to bomb civilians but not shoot them?
Weird.

 

[djacobox372]

They're soldiers not police.. it was in a war-zone. WTF do you expect?

 

[My Spot]

That was a capture or kill mission. The orders were explicit. "If he raises his hands to surrender, take him in. If he does anything else, take him down."



Remember when that one Navy Seal was brought up on charges for murdering a bound captive by cutting his throat?

Navy Seal pardoned of war crimes by Trump described by colleagues as 'freaking evil' | US military | The Guardian

Yeah, Pres. Trump pardoned him and gave him a pass.

"But what about..."

 

[Strychnine]

"But what about..."

About what?

 

[My Spot]

About what?

 

[Strychnine]

Ok.

 

[My Spot]

Ok.

Okay?

 

[tastaylvr]

They're soldiers not police.. it was in a war-zone. WTF do you expect?

So it's ok to slaughter people as long as it's classified as a war zone? who makes these classifications? how does a zone get classified as a war zone?

just lol

 

[ShadowRun]

That was a capture or kill mission. The orders were explicit. "If he raises his hands to surrender, take him in. If he does anything else, take him down."



Remember when that one Navy Seal was brought up on charges for murdering a bound captive by cutting his throat?

Navy Seal pardoned of war crimes by Trump described by colleagues as 'freaking evil' | US military | The Guardian

Yeah, Pres. Trump pardoned him and gave him a pass.

Must talk about orange man !

 

[Andy Capp]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67054702

UK special forces killed nine people "in their beds" during an Afghanistan night raid, an independent inquiry has heard.

Family members say the victims were unarmed civilians. The SAS had claimed they acted in self-defence.

Senior officers suspected troops of carrying out a policy of executing "fighting age" men even if they posed no threat.

The government announced the inquiry after BBC Panorama revealed an SAS squadron killed 54 people in suspicious circumstances on one six-month tour.

As substantive hearings got under way at the Royal Courts of Justice in London on Monday, UK special forces were accused of "abusing" night raids in order to commit "numerous" extra-judicial killings - which were allegedly later covered up.

Hundreds of deliberate detention operations were carried out by special forces between 2010 and 2013.

• SAS killings: How a scandal was uncovered
• UK Special Forces at centre of Afghan war crimes inquiry
• Plan to shut war crimes probe concerned minister

Lead counsel to the inquiry, Oliver Glasgow KC, set out the details of seven separate kill/capture missions involving the deaths of 33 people, including a number of children.

The alleged unlawful killings of the nine people in the Nad Ali district of Helmand is understood to have occurred as a number of families gathered before a wake on 7 February 2011.

They were sleeping in a single-roomed outbuilding.

The SAS said they had fired in self-defence having been fired upon. Mr Glasgow pointed out the low height of what appear to be bullet holes in the walls of the outbuilding, first revealed by the BBC last year.

Allegations of cover-ups of illegal activity and inadequate investigations by the Royal Military Police (RMP) will also be examined.

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Pretty crazy story that the inquiry has been able to cut through everything to basically dispute the stories told by those in charge at the time.

It will be interesting to see who gets charged with what and how far the inquiry is able to continue to go.

Shitty. Seems likely they'd find many more not now that they're looking, don't you think?

 

[Siver!]

Shitty. Seems likely they'd find many more not that they're looking, don't you think.

Probably!

But it's good to see this one being investigated for sure.

 

[jrams]

The Israeli standard suggests Afghanistan should be allowed to carpet bomb the UK.

 

[Andy Capp]

Probably!

But it's good to see this one being investigated for sure.

Please see my edit of the typo in that post; it changes the meaning somewhat.

 

[djacobox372]

So it's ok to slaughter people as long as it's classified as a war zone? who makes these classifications? how does a zone get classified as a war zone?

just lol

When leaders of nations send soldiers to operate in a foreign nation they are creating a war zone.

Soldiers aren't police, they're trained killers. They don't need to announce themselves and give an opportunity to surrender, in fact they are trained to do the opposite--in war surprise and ambush is encouraged.

I'm not making a moral judgment on this, I just think people are extremely naive as to what war is.

 

[tramendous]

So it's ok to slaughter people as long as it's classified as a war zone? who makes these classifications? how does a zone get classified as a war zone?

just lol

They wont understand unless it happens in their own country

 

[tastaylvr]

When leaders of nations send soldiers to operate in a foreign nation they are creating a war zone.

Soldiers aren't police, they're trained killers. They don't need to announce themselves and give an opportunity to surrender, in fact they are trained to do the opposite--in war surprise and ambush is encouraged.

I'm not making a moral judgment on this, I just think people are extremely naive as to what war is.

I think you are the naive one here tbh. Someone who has never seen the brutality of war.

it’s comical that you can distinction between police officers and soldiers but don’t see the irony in it

 

[DoctorTaco]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8rqXcCu/

 

[SakurabasEar]

Theres no honor in killing a sleeping enemy

Thats something a psychotic woman does

 

[aus101]

SAS, Seal Team 6, and Australian SAS all have documented strings of horrific abuses in Afghanistan particularly, a lot of it stems from the culture of the Special Ops community and also the wide birth they're given by their governments. The Navy SEALs for example are one of the best recruiting and marketing tools for the US Navy so the Navy literally sweeps everything they do under the rug, even though they're known to be the most undisciplined shit bag unit in the entire US military. Civilians think they're cool so the Pentagon protects them. The SAS is greatly revered in the UK and has legendary status in military circles around the globe, the average SAS operator thinks their shit doesn't stink and they've likely seen how their misdeeds get swept under the rug by the British government so it breeds a culture of impunity. Add to that a deep dehumanization of Afghans and some good ole racism and these atrocities are what you get.

Finally, we should really stop this nonsense about how Western militaries adhere to international law, they absolutely do not.

Life is about shades of grey. Some are closer to white, those who excuse targeting civilians closer to pitch black.