International British mother jailed for 300 days over social media post to meet with Donald Trump as she prepares legal action against the UK

[Fox by the Sea]

 

[Loiosh]

I'm not trying to explain anything away, she says:

Are you deliberately misgendering me because conservatives always think that's funny?

You are one thousand percent trying to absolve this loser while only now trying to walk it back because no one's having it.

I'm not absolving anyone or walking anything back. I don't care what you're "having". I described the reasoning and said you were free to disagree.

As for Tommy, glad you admit he would be dragged up and down for the same comments hence him being "Too smart for that."

Tommy's too smart to make this obvious a comment NOW because he's made them in the past and knows he's carefully scrutinized.

...for breaches that included a post calling on people to terrorise and behead those who follow the Qur’an; a post calling on people to “make war” on Muslims; and multiple videos showing people being bullied.

And please, it would be progressive ideologues like you who wouldn't give him the benefit of the doubt, the action of which is devalued by giving these blatant calls to violence a hall pass because Rocky Bobby over there shares your same world view.

See above.

I think with each passing day, and the more your side of the aisle fumbles the ball (like this guy did), people like Tommy are increasingly being viewed as the voice of reason rather than the irrational purveyor of hate/violence you lot make him out to be.

If you think Tommy is the voice of reason, you're pretty far gone. Or you don't know anything about him.

we are allowing the west to degenerate to the level of the nation's where these asylum seekers originate from in doing so.

Hitler lauded America for how it treated it's black people and homosexuals, and modeled much of the way it treated the Jews after it. The west was never very good.

If however, his passion for cleaning up the insane open border politics that's destroying the country is being misconstrued for inciting hatred then I think it says more about you guys than him, and he should probably be given a medal of honor for his work.

He has, see above. He's been in this a long time and said a lot of terrible things. I wouldn't be surprised if he was one of the reasons this law was created.

At the same time, don't confuse me for some contemporary right of center liberal that will always legitimize his views with the moral order of our day. If you want something on record, I am in favor of Poland weaponizing their borders (as an example) and treating fake asylum seekers as an invading force as the Western world is being terraformed for the worst before our very eyes. It wouldn't be interesting to go on record saying this either, if anything, I'm further right than Tommy Robinson and I'm generally sympathetic to his cause.

You're further right than Tommy?

He's threatened beheadings and mobilized tens of thousands, what have YOU done?

 

[Croo67]

Some of the things I've read about the UK of late are deeply troubling. An example ~

The UK Has More Political Prisoners Than Cuba​

12,000 speech arrests a year, 1,000 a month and 30 a day.​

The UK Has More Political Prisoners Than Cuba | Frontpage Mag

12,000 speech arrests a year, 1,000 a month and 30 a day.

www.frontpagemag.com

The British economy continues to struggle under PM Keir Starmer, the military is depleted and a pension crisis is on the horizon, but there is one area where the UK is exceeding expectations.

Starmer’s UK has achieved levels of political prisoners not only resembling but occasionally even outdoing those of Communist dictatorships like Cuba, Venezuela and even China.

Freedom House estimated that Cuba has 2,768 political prisoners, Venezuela has 1,953 political prisoners, and thousands more in China. Starmer’s regime and an enthusiastic police force have easily outdone these backward Communist regimes by arresting over 1,000 people a month for social media posts. The full number of political prisoners in the UK remains unknown, but the high number of arrests suggests that Britain may be able to compete with Cuba.

The 12,000 arrests by 37 forces a year are a record high. Speech arrests more than doubled from 5,502 in 2017 to over 12,000 since 2022. increasing by 1,000 or more every year. The internet did not fundamentally change since 2017. The UK authorities however have.

The London Times recently reported that “British police arrest more than 30 people a day for online posts”. London’s Met Police, who have been at the center of some of the worst speech abuses, maintain a secretive operation monitoring social media leading to almost immediate arrests. The Met Police arrested a staggering 5,332 people in 9 years for speech and 1,700 speech arrests in 2023 alone making London into its own speech gulag.....

Can you imagine what it would be like, had Harris won?

It’s clear that Trump is not only spooking the UK Government, but giving a bit of faith to the population that America will step in if/when it goes too far.

Btw, Trump recently blocked the UK Gov from back door access to iCloud - they wanted to spy on Americans.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

Are you deliberately misgendering me because conservatives always think that's funny?



I'm not absolving anyone or walking anything back. I don't care what you're "having". I described the reasoning and said you were free to disagree.



Tommy's too smart to make this obvious a comment NOW because he's made them in the past and knows he's carefully scrutinized.

...for breaches that included a post calling on people to terrorise and behead those who follow the Qur’an; a post calling on people to “make war” on Muslims; and multiple videos showing people being bullied.



See above.



If you think Tommy is the voice of reason, you're pretty far gone. Or you don't know anything about him.



Hitler lauded America for how it treated it's black people and homosexuals, and modeled much of the way it treated the Jews after it. The west was never very good.



He has, see above. He's been in this a long time and said a lot of terrible things. I wouldn't be surprised if he was one of the reasons this law was created.



You're further right than Tommy?

He's threatened beheadings and mobilized tens of thousands, what have YOU done?

Show me the post where he called for beheadings.

 

[Loiosh]

Show me the post where he called for beheadings.

It's gone, all of his social media was banned and deleted.

Do you really know so little about Robinson? I find that incredibly difficult to believe.

@The_Renaissance you live in the UK, surely you've been aware of his activities going back decades. I know you loathe Muslims but you have to know his words and deeds are far more extreme than what we've been talking about today.

 

[dildos]

hey kebab. send me your venmo, i'll wire 5 dollars so you can buy yourself a pair of used shoes.

i think we found @Croo67 s alt acct.

 

[nostradumbass]

According to the article, Ricky Jones did not explicitly state during his speech that his comments were directed at far-right activists who left razor blades behind stickers on a train. Instead, this clarification came later, during his trial and in statements to the police.

It's not even a clarification, it's a paper thin excuse to avoid responsibility for a public official blatantly and explicitly calling for murder. Even if the claim were true, there was at most 1 guy who put up a sticker with a blade behind it so someone would get a cut on their finger for trying to angrily rip it off, there still is no "all of them", which is what he said.


Even if he was talking about whoever put up a sticker with a blade behind it, which he clearly wasn't, a public official would say "we need to find out who did this and prosecute them", not "let's cut all their throats" to an angry mob.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

It's gone, all of his social media was banned and deleted.

Do you really know so little about Robinson? I find that incredibly difficult to believe.

@The_Renaissance you live in the UK, surely you've been aware of his activities going back decades. I know you loathe Muslims but you have to know his words and deeds are far more extreme than what we've been talking about today.

Translated: You don't have shit to show for it. How fucking convenient.

 

[MacGregor]

 

[oldshadow]

This is all well and good bit if you guys it will take this and 10 times more then voters getting rid of the politicians letting them in and letting them stay.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Show me the post where he called for beheadings.

It's gone, all of his social media was banned and deleted.

I haven't found a screenshot of the post in question but here are two UK publications reporting on it, first the BBC:

Facebook has taken down anti-Islamic activist Tommy Robinson's official page and Instagram profile for violating its policies on hate speech.

According to Facebook, a written warning had been sent to Mr Robinson last month about a number of posts on his page that had violated its community standards, including:

• a post calling Muslims "filthy scum bags"
• a post urging people to terrorise and behead those who follow the Koran
• a post urging people to "make war" on Muslims
• multiple videos depicting individuals being bullied

and the second being The Guardian:

In a blogpost, Facebook said: “When ideas and opinions cross the line and amount to hate speech that may create an environment of intimidation and exclusion for certain groups in society – in some cases with potentially dangerous offline implications – we take action. Tommy Robinson’s Facebook page has repeatedly broken these standards, posting material that uses dehumanizing language and calls for violence targeted at Muslims. He has also behaved in ways that violate our policies around organized hate.”

The ban comes a month after Facebook issued a final written warning against Robinson, warning him that he would be removed from its platform permanently if he continued to break the company’s hate speech policies.

That warning had been issued for breaches that included a post calling on people to terrorise and behead those who follow the Qur’an; a post calling on people to “make war” on Muslims; and multiple videos showing people being bullied.

Something tells me this Tommy Robinson guy doesn't like Muslims very much.

 

[Loiosh]

Translated: You don't have shit to show for it. How fucking convenient.

I can't post things that no longer exist.

I posted a link to an article that reported the events, but it doesn't matter, you aren't interested in the truth. You're just looking for opportunities to poke holes where you can, and ignore anything you can't contest.

He's quite infamous, and I assume you're pretending to be ignorant of what he's done.

If you honestly don't know anything about Robinson and want to, visit his Wiki page, which has a lengthy accounting of his activities. It's sourced, so you can look things up yourself.

I won't hold my breath.

 

[Loiosh]

I haven't found a screenshot of the post in question but here are two UK publications reporting on it, first the BBC:


and the second being The Guardian:


Something tells me this Tommy Robinson guy doesn't like Muslims very much.

I've seen videos of Robinson talking about how much he hates Muslims.

Timbah also included video of Rubin sanitizing Robinson for conservatives. Robinson told him lie after lie and Rubin just nodded and talked about the radical left.

 

[fingercuffs]

Translated: You don't have shit to show for it. How fucking convenient.

Lol, what is your argument here about Tommy Robinson and The EDF?

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

I haven't found a screenshot of the post in question but here are two UK publications reporting on it, first the BBC:


and the second being The Guardian:


Something tells me this Tommy Robinson guy doesn't like Muslims very much.

You won't find a screen shot of him suggesting the beheading of Muslims because that's ridiculous and probably does not exist.You'll find publications reporting what Facebook alleged, but that's the extent of it.

Lol, what is your argument here about Tommy Robinson and The EDF?

I don't have an argument for Tommy Robinson, that isn't the point of the thread. It's a pivot @Loiosh is clumsily falling back on to obfuscate from the very real clip that exists of a labor politician not getting so much as a slap on the wrist for telling people to slit the throats of the opposition

Oh, but wait a second, Facebook said Tommy Robinson called for the beheading of Muslims! Got proof? Didn't think so.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

I can't post things that no longer exist.

I posted a link to an article that reported the events, but it doesn't matter, you aren't interested in the truth. You're just looking for opportunities to poke holes where you can, and ignore anything you can't contest.

He's quite infamous, and I assume you're pretending to be ignorant of what he's done.

If you honestly don't know anything about Robinson and want to, visit his Wiki page, which has a lengthy accounting of his activities. It's sourced, so you can look things up yourself.

I won't hold my breath.

You don't have "the truth", not like it would matter since we see what you're doing when you're confronted with reality anyways.

I'm not a Tommy Robinson expert, but I do know what he's about and that he's passionately against mass migration. The idea that he's a hate monger is retarded and the charge comes from people like you which doesn't hold much weight.

Not sure why your nervously repeating the idea that I know absolutely nothing about the guy as if it's a Mantra helping you cope as you navigate this thread.

 

[Loiosh]

You don't have "the truth", not like it would matter since we see what you're doing when you're confronted with reality anyways.

I'm not a Tommy Robinson expert, but I do know what he's about and that he's passionately against mass migration. The idea that he's a hate monger is retarded and the charge comes from people like you which doesn't hold much weight.

Not sure why your nervously repeating the idea that I know absolutely nothing about the guy as if it's a Mantra helping you cope as you navigate this thread.

You're just spewing white noise.

Fortunately, you're saying Robinson as not being a hate monger, which is demonstrably false. Just look at the documented history on Wiki.

You say he's just passionate about immigration because that's what best serves your narrative. You're shoulder to shoulder with so many despicable people you're expert at looking the other way. You loathe immigrants, so anyone else who does must be defended, no matter what else they do or say.

You know your ignorance doesn't make me nervous. It just makes me sad for any people who may be in your life.

 

[Islam Imamate]

You won't find a screen shot of him suggesting the beheading of Muslims because that's ridiculous and probably does not exist.You'll find publications reporting what Facebook alleged, but that's the extent of it.

You think the reporting by those publications on that claim is inaccurate?

 

[Loiosh]

I don't have an argument for Tommy Robinson, that isn't the point of the thread. It's a pivot @Loiosh is clumsily falling back on to obfuscate from the very real clip that exists of a labor politician not getting so much as a slap on the wrist for telling people to slit the throats of the opposition

It isn't a pivot. Nothing I've said about about the two cases has been successfully rebutted, and I merely repeated what probably happened. The woman had a history of dangerous public rhetoric and the politician did not, hence the probable reason for the difference in treatment.

And no slap on the wrist? He was charged with a crime and suspended from his position. I'll bet you any sum of money he'll never make a comment like that again.

Finally, I'm, not obfuscating from anything. Tommy is the quoted source of this video and when I pointed out what a piece of garbage he was, the thread starter pushed back. He's been successfully accused of this behavior so many times he's making a public case for unequal treatment. Anyone with an IQ north of 60 knows he's a self-serving hypocrite.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

You're just spewing white noise.

Fortunately, you're saying Robinson as not being a hate monger, which is demonstrably false. Just look at the documented history on Wiki.

You say he's just passionate about immigration because that's what best serves your narrative. You're shoulder to shoulder with so many despicable people you're expert at looking the other way. You loathe immigrants, so anyone else who does must be defended, no matter what else they do or say.

You know your ignorance doesn't make me nervous. It just makes me sad for any people who may be in your life.

"Just look at the documented history on wiki."

Throw in the usual buzz words on top of that world class analysis above and you too can come off like you know what you're talking about to the average left-wing chode.

Do me a favor, when the "truth" is in the room, let us know.

In the mean time, spare us the moral grandstanding bullshit you automatons like to spew. There's a reason it's hard to take you guys seriously.