International British mother jailed for 300 days over social media post to meet with Donald Trump as she prepares legal action against the UK

[KnightTemplar]

It was seen hundreds of thousands of times



There is plenty of evidence that such tweets provoke and fuel violence. Hence why incitement to violence is a crime. You do the crime, you do the time.



She was also the wife of a counsellor, so should be held to a higher standard than acting like someone on a council estate.

The labour councilor should have also been stripped of his position and found guilty, but as I mentioned it looks like a spontanous thing he said and someone else uploaded it. Also labour are in power, so it wouldnt be a good look for them.

You do the crime, you do the time. Unless you're a police officer, social worker or politician who covered up mass gang rapes by Pakistanis. In which case, nah, it'll be fine.

Sex offenders have received less severe sentences than a woman who's only crime was to rage-tweet. Her punishment was grossly disproportionate to the crime, and served only to fuel the public's anger against the blatant double standards of our so-called police, judiciary and politicians.

 

[The_Renaissance]

What she did was inexcusable and warranted a short jail term to warn others not call for violence......the fact HE got off completely free of charge for doing the exact same, is inexcusable too and I want America to keep putting pressure on the UK regarding this kind of stuff coz it's only the threat of America turning its back on us, that will turn this shit around.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Councillor cleared of encouraging violent behaviour

According to the article, Ricky Jones did not explicitly state during his speech that his comments were directed at far-right activists who left razor blades behind stickers on a train. Instead, this clarification came later, during his trial and in statements to the police.

 

[BAM]

What she did was inexcusable and warranted a short jail term to warn others not call for violence......the fact HE got off completely free of charge for doing the exact same, is inexcusable too and I want America to keep putting pressure on the UK regarding this kind of stuff coz it's only the threat of America turning its back on us, that will turn this shit around.

I think Connoly having some sort of history of it doesnt help her. She seemingly got away with it before. Probably factored into it

I assumed Jones wasnt being literal. But that was insanely reckless. People that stupid shouldnt be in office

 

[The_Renaissance]

I think Connoly having some sort of history of it doesnt help her.

I assumed Jones wasnt being literal. But that was insanely reckless. People that stupud shouldnt be in office

Any fucking politician using that sort of language belongs out of a job, it's that fucking simple. Not fit for the role.

 

[Bubzeh]

Don’t feed the trolls.

Just take note of which retards (@Loiosh) are cool with the brown men of Britain publicly threatening violence, and the ones encouraging jail for native women that post a few nasty words on a smartphone.

 

[MacGregor]

The usual anti-white, anti-west racists in here trying to defend Jones while 'demonizing' Connelly and Robinson.

Embarrassing.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

The welfare recipients of my country earn more than the average salary of your country lol

Why are you talking or even defending some random?

Or you logged into the wrong account today?

Highly doubt the welfare recipients of Pakistan make more than the average salary of anywhere else, mate.


I find it funny Mary Poppins (@fingercuffs) is shockingly absent from this thread.

 

[Loiosh]

There is no context that absolves that call to violence. Period.

The idea that you're trying to explain this away as misinformation is such a brain dead take, that it hurts to even respond to.

As a politician, you do not instruct a large gathering of people to "slit all their throats." Under any circumstances.

I'm glad you brought up Tommy Robinson. Do me a favour, and with a straight face, I want you to admit to everyone that if Tommy Robinson did the exact same thing and used the defense of "Oh I was talking about extremists Pakistani grooming gangs!" That he wouldn't be dragged to hell and back for it.

I'm not trying to explain anything away. I'm discussing the reasoning used in the acquittal and conviction, and have repeatedly said you're free to disagree. I presented Robinson's input as misinformation because of his decades of misinforming.

I agree Ricky Jones' comment about slitting throats was unacceptable in any context and his party also seems to agree, as he remains suspended. I don't know how I feel about the law in question because we don't have it here; at feels at face value that any law governing speech based on judgement of intent is risky.

Ricky Jones isn't Tommy Robinson, Jones doesn't have decades of history promoting violence against Muslims. It's like comparing MSNBC to Project Veritas. If Robinson made this comment there is no chance I'd give him the benefit of the doubt considering all the things he's already said. Robinson would probably never make a comment this obvious though, he's too smart for that and knows nobody would give him the benefit of the doubt.

How do you feel about Robinson and his work with the EDL and BNP? It would be interesting to see you go on record about someone this far right, like JD Vance speaking to the AFD and telling them not to be ashamed of Germany's Nazi history.

 

[AgentSmecker]

Why? You cant call for starting fires its criminal incitement to violence thats the law.

What happened to you man? Do you see the words “FOR ALL I CARE" and do you understand the significance they have in the tweet she made? She didn't say go out and burn the hotels down, she said burn the hotels down FOR ALL I CARE so she wasn't telling anyone to burn them down she was saying if it happened then she wouldn't care about it. That's not an incitement to violence, standing in front of a large crowd of people with a loudhailer and proclaiming that people with opposing political beliefs are fascist scumbags and WE need to cut all their throats most certainly is.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

I'm not trying to explain anything away. I'm discussing the reasoning used in the acquittal and conviction, and have repeatedly said you're free to disagree. I presented Robinson's input as misinformation because of his decades of misinforming.

I agree Ricky Jones' comment about slitting throats was unacceptable in any context and his party also seems to agree, as he remains suspended. I don't know how I feel about the law in question because we don't have it here; at feels at face value that any law governing speech based on judgement of intent is risky.

Ricky Jones isn't Tommy Robinson, Jones doesn't have decades of history promoting violence against Muslims. It's like comparing MSNBC to Project Veritas. If Robinson made this comment there is no chance I'd give him the benefit of the doubt considering all the things he's already said. Robinson would probably never make a comment this obvious though, he's too smart for that and knows nobody would give him the benefit of the doubt.

How do you feel about Robinson and his work with the EDL and BNP? It would be interesting to see you go on record about someone this far right, like JD Vance speaking to the AFD and telling them not to be ashamed of Germany's Nazi history.

I'm not trying to explain anything away, she says:

This is a standard misinformation technique, and you know it. Clipping people out of context is the road most travelled for political attack ads.

You are one thousand percent trying to absolve this loser while only now trying to walk it back because no one's having it.

As for Tommy, glad you admit he would be dragged up and down for the same comments hence him being "Too smart for that." And please, it would be progressive ideologues like you who wouldn't give him the benefit of the doubt, the action of which is devalued by giving these blatant calls to violence a hall pass because Rocky Bobby over there shares your same world view.

I think with each passing day, and the more your side of the aisle fumbles the ball (like this guy did), people like Tommy are increasingly being viewed as the voice of reason rather than the irrational purveyor of hate/violence you lot make him out to be.

If Tommy has ever promoted violence the way this guy did during his work with the EDL or BNP, than I'm not for it. I'm also not for it because we are allowing the west to degenerate to the level of the nation's where these asylum seekers originate from in doing so. If however, his passion for cleaning up the insane open border politics that's destroying the country is being misconstrued for inciting hatred then I think it says more about you guys than him, and he should probably be given a medal of honor for his work.

At the same time, don't confuse me for some contemporary right of center liberal that will always legitimize his views with the moral order of our day. If you want something on record, I am in favor of Poland weaponizing their borders (as an example) and treating fake asylum seekers as an invading force as the Western world is being terraformed for the worst before our very eyes. It wouldn't be interesting to go on record saying this either, if anything, I'm further right than Tommy Robinson and I'm generally sympathetic to his cause.

 

[KnightTemplar]

More embarrassment for Starmer.

Nigel Farage to discuss jailing of Lucy Connolly in US congress

The mother was behind bars for more than a year after admitting making the inflammatory post on X in the wake of the Southport attacks in July last year.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[AgentSmecker]

That wasn't what happened here.

He said they should get their throats slit for intentionally leaving razors where kids could find them.

It's the kind of thing people around here say all the time when children are put at risk. It's an impossibly stupid thing for someone to say to a crowd, but the jury determined based on his history of non-violence that it was hyperbole and didn't meet the standard of incitement to violence. However, he's been suspended from his party.

Lucy Connolly went to prison because she posted that people should set hotels that house immigrants on fire. She's on record saying how much she hates immigrants and how she doesn't care if that's racist. She also has a history of this kind of post. Her post was seen by a million people of like mind.

You don't have to agree with the difference, but that's how the verdicts were described. I haven't spent a lot of time thinking about these laws and I don't actually have a position yet.

Tommy Robinson misrepresented the situation so people like you could say things like what you just said.

What an absolute crock of shit. Other than him saying so there's no evidence that's what he meant when he called for right wing demonstrators to have their throats cut. Intentionally leaving razors where kids could find them?? Fuck off! What complete and utter bs, even if his story about the razors were true how could you possibly know that was the intention of the people who put the stickers on trains? Is he a mind reader that somehow knows they were like yeah let's put blades under these stickers so kids can find them and I didn't know that kids went around peeling stickers off to see if there were razor blades behind them anyway

Basically you're willing to accept his word as truth but you're completely overlooking the vitally important words "for all I care" in Connollys tweet.
The guy is a lying bag of crap and so are you for defending him and presenting his shitty lies as fact.

And how exactly did Tommy Robinson misrepresent the situation? Afaik he reposted news about the Southport attacker that proved to be untrue. He was only going on the info that he had at the time and it wasn't all that far from the truth in the end. The attacker was the son of asylum seekers and he was an islamist, not the angelic Welsh choirboy that our lying lefty scumbag MSM tried to portray him as.

 

[Wrath of Foamy]

AAAAÀAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

 

[Islam Imamate]

According to the article, Ricky Jones did not explicitly state during his speech that his comments were directed at far-right activists who left razor blades behind stickers on a train. Instead, this clarification came later, during his trial and in statements to the police.

Where in the article does it say that? If anything it points this out

Giving evidence in his trial, Mr Jones said his comment did not refer to far-right protesters involved in the riots at the time, but to those who had reportedly left National Front stickers on a train with razor blades hidden behind them.

Before he made the comment, jurors were shown video where he said to crowds: "You've got women and children using these trains during the summer holidays.

"They don't [care] who they hurt."

You can say that even if true he should face consequences for encouraging vigilantism but there does seem to be circumstantial evidence that he wad referring to the incident where stickers with razors were placed on trains. Additionally it points this out about the other woman.

Lucy Connolly, a childminder from Northampton, was jailed for inciting race hate after she posted online last year calling for "mass deportation now", adding "set fire to all the...hotels [housing asylum seekers]...for all I care", before continuing to say: "if that makes me racist, so be it".

Connolly previously admitted intending to stir up racial hatred. Mr Jones pleaded not guilty and had his case heard before a jury.

Kinda makes sense that someone with a history of this kind of offense would not get the benefit of c the doubt.

 

[The_Renaissance]

Where in the article does it say that? If anything it points this out


You can say that even if true he should face consequences for encouraging vigilantism but there does seem to be circumstantial evidence that he wad referring to the incident where stickers with razors were placed on trains. Additionally it points this out about the other woman.


Kinda makes sense that someone with a history of this kind of offense would not get the benefit of c the doubt.

Not saying it's not true, but I genuinely am hearing this 'razor blades' stuff for the very first time and would've thought something like that would be literally plastered all over the media here in the UK at the time?

 

[Islam Imamate]

Not saying it's not true, but I genuinely am hearing this 'razor blades' stuff for the very first time and would've thought something like that would be literally plastered all over the media here in the UK at the time?

I hadn't heard of it until now but I found this article that mentions the incident.

Even if it's not true the relevant detail is whether the individual in question believed or to be true and whether his comments were in reference to that incident.

On the other hand Lycy Connelly basically admitted to inciting racial hatred, it's no wonder she was convicted while Mr.Jones wasn't.

 

[The_Renaissance]

I hadn't heard of it until now but I found this article that mentions the incident.

Even if it's not true the relevant detail is whether the individual in question believed or to be true and whether his comments were in reference to that incident.

On the other hand Lycy Connelly basically admitted to inciting racial hatred, it's no wonder she was convicted while Mr.Jones wasn't.

The Mirror. This has a very 'Snopes' vibe to it, to be honest, especially as that's essentially the only source it seems. But Connelly, I agree on.

Jones is a lying cunt, he didn't believe this Snopes nonsense it's a kopout excuse.

 

[Islam Imamate]

The Mirror. This has a very 'Snopes' vibe to it, to be honest, especially as that's essentially the only source it seems. But Connelly, I agree on.

What do you mean if had a Snopes vibe? I get that is not Reuters or AP but it's The Mirror disreputable to point of being untrustworthy?

Jones is a lying cunt, he didn't believe this Snopes nonsense it's a kopout excuse.

What makes you say that?

 

[Beechwood]

Some of the things I've read about the UK of late are deeply troubling. An example ~

The UK Has More Political Prisoners Than Cuba​

12,000 speech arrests a year, 1,000 a month and 30 a day.​

The UK Has More Political Prisoners Than Cuba | Frontpage Mag

12,000 speech arrests a year, 1,000 a month and 30 a day.

www.frontpagemag.com

The British economy continues to struggle under PM Keir Starmer, the military is depleted and a pension crisis is on the horizon, but there is one area where the UK is exceeding expectations.

Starmer’s UK has achieved levels of political prisoners not only resembling but occasionally even outdoing those of Communist dictatorships like Cuba, Venezuela and even China.

Freedom House estimated that Cuba has 2,768 political prisoners, Venezuela has 1,953 political prisoners, and thousands more in China. Starmer’s regime and an enthusiastic police force have easily outdone these backward Communist regimes by arresting over 1,000 people a month for social media posts. The full number of political prisoners in the UK remains unknown, but the high number of arrests suggests that Britain may be able to compete with Cuba.

The 12,000 arrests by 37 forces a year are a record high. Speech arrests more than doubled from 5,502 in 2017 to over 12,000 since 2022. increasing by 1,000 or more every year. The internet did not fundamentally change since 2017. The UK authorities however have.

The London Times recently reported that “British police arrest more than 30 people a day for online posts”. London’s Met Police, who have been at the center of some of the worst speech abuses, maintain a secretive operation monitoring social media leading to almost immediate arrests. The Met Police arrested a staggering 5,332 people in 9 years for speech and 1,700 speech arrests in 2023 alone making London into its own speech gulag.....