Brian Shaw vs Francis Ngannou: "If I had 6 months to prepare and my life depended on it..."

[Tweak896]

Early Sapp and Hong Man Choi were probably the closest we've seen to huge freaks who had at least some skill. Sapp gave prime Nog a scare with a piledriver that may have caused permanent damage...and landed some nasty GnP before getting submitted. Choi took Fedor down easily and left his face all marked up even though he was submitted as well.

There were a few other giant freaks in the early UFCs and Pride (Varelens, Giant Silva, sumo wrestlers) but they had minimal skills.

Of course Sapp was roided to the gills and Choi may have done PEDs as well.

I mean it's safe to assume everyone in Pride were on them, they are crazy if they weren't, but not proven like you said. Boxing seems to do fine with uncapped weights and they are more forgiving with 10 counts vs some of the ref calls lately.

 

[Legendary]

Ngannou via whatever the fuck he wants

 

[Trabaho]

It's not just a leg infection both his legs show signs of edema, including the one which is apparently not even infected. Stem cells won't do shit for this.

The man is morbidly obese, yes, he has a lot of muscle but when your body is 400 lbs it barely cares what that weight is made of. He needs to lose at least 100 lbs if he wants to make it into his 50s.

As for this thread, no, Brian is not healthy or mobile enough to beat any half competent MMA fighter over 200 lbs.

Weighing 400 pounds is hard on the heart. A gazilion calories. Substances also have some side effects. Than training in that superman state. At least he should slim down to 280 once his powerlifitng competitivr days are over. About now. If he isn't too attached to food. Not easy to teach the body to be 35% smaller. After 15 years.

 

[Hdfi]

I wouldn't be surprised if he was subbed in the first round. There is too much skill difference between them.

Ngannou would outwrestle him so easily. Where it would be really fun is to see a smaller skilled fighter like Khamzat do a straight grappling match with Shaw.

Imagine what Onosato would do.

And Onosato would lose to Ngannou in all types of fights, except sumo

 

[AndrewGolota48]

I wouldn't be surprised if he was subbed in the first round. There is too much skill difference between them.

Imagine what Onosato would do.

And Onosato would lose to Ngannou in all types of fights, except sumo

And the guy in the GIF Ngannou did that to is a wrestler, and Ngannou was more green back then.

 

[wildchild88]

Yea I don’t agree

I think Francis is a one trick pony and Brian is bigger and way stronger.


He’s not unbeatable or unstoppable.

Especially from someone who weighs 180lbs+ more than him and is also 4 inches taller than him.

I’m not saying Brian wins easy or he wins at all. I’m just saying people in this thread are over exaggerating Francis and downplaying Brian.

There’s plenty of footage of him trying different sports, against different athletes and he does pretty well just off pure brute size and strength.

Ngannou had 8 first round finishes in the ufc.

Against guys who are competing in an actual sport. He was a champion, that’s the pinnacle.

This guy you’re talking about, we don’t even know if he can compete at a local level in hw mma, let alone championship level. Hes famous for being strong / jacked, not competing in combat sport where you're needing to do precise coordinated movements with a line opponent and have great reaction time

 

[wildchild88]

That's a reach lol

He could barely outwrestle Stipe...


Francis is around 265lbs - Brian Shaw is between 400lbs to 440lbs.

Weight difference of approximately 135 to 175 lbs (depending on Shaw's specific weight).

Stipe was a college wrestler with a long history of competition.,

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

Brian Shaw is extremely obese. There are no two ways about it. Even with the fact that he is extremely tall, still 450 lbs of weight puts a lot of stress on the heart as that much weight requires pumping a lot of blood to provide Oxygenated blood to all extremities. The sooner he comes to the realization, he will have a chance of living a long, healthy life, but if he continues being 450+ lbs, it is just logical and science that he is going to have a lot of health problems.

I see you are also a Strongman enthusiast since you have you have Felix in your avatar. There were really smart strongmen who realized and made the adjustments. I remember looking at Strongman legend Zydrunas Savisckus and he looked completely unrecognizable.

Left is how he looked like when he was competing in the strongest man competitions and right is how he looks like now after he retied.

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yeah they've all shrunk since retiring or taking hiatus EXCEPT Brian. Hafthor shrunk down to like 330lbs when he was training for boxing and retired from Strongman, Zydrunas has clearly shrunk, Terry Holland was another 400lber who is like 350lbs now. Eddie has shrunk quite a bit since he used to weigh as much as Brian. but Brian has only shrunk once and he didn't shrink much. he went from like 420lb to 380lb. i guess he's still currently trying to lose more weight but i feel like it's taking him way too long to drop significant weight when all these other strongmen dropped practically an entire person of weight rather quickly.

i think some of these guys like Brian have body dysmorphia.

 

[Söze Aldo]

yeah they've all shrunk since retiring or taking hiatus EXCEPT Brian. Hafthor shrunk down to like 330lbs when he was training for boxing and retired from Strongman, Zydrunas has clearly shrunk, Terry Holland was another 400lber who is like 350lbs now. Eddie has shrunk quite a bit since he used to weigh as much as Brian. but Brian has only shrunk once and he didn't shrink much. he went from like 420lb to 380lb. i guess he's still currently trying to lose more weight but i feel like it's taking him way too long to drop significant weight when all these other strongmen dropped practically an entire person of weight rather quickly.

i think some of these guys like Brian have body dysmorphia.

Brian is also pursuing an arm wrestling career now, and the best AW currently is another guy who weighs around 400 lbs.

I do agree body dysmorphia plays a role. I think when Brian briefly dropped down to 370 lbs he was acting insecure that he was no longer as massive.

When Hafthor fully retires, I can see him dropping down and not trying to get to near 400 lbs ever again.

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

Brian is also pursuing an arm wrestling career now, and the best AW currently is another guy who weighs around 400 lbs.

I do agree body dysmorphia plays a role. I think when Brian briefly dropped down to 370 lbs he was acting insecure that he was no longer as massive.

When Hafthor fully retires, I can see him dropping down and not trying to get to near 400 lbs ever again.

Brian should look at Levan and realize Levan is him. Levan is younger than Brian but he's been going through health problems for years himself and never shrinks also. he stays that +400lbs all year long. like 2-3 yrs ago he needed OXYGEN for an arm wrestling match lmao. like buddy, when all you do is stand there and strain your upper body and get so gassed from just that you need oxygen, and then you can't continue for the last 2 rds something is WRONG.

 

[icemun]

In this scenario, is it unreasonable to think that the sheer strength and size of Brian Shaw would prevail? Ultimately technique only matters for so much and without the artificial weight limits, these strongmen could be unstoppable in real fighting. They have literally double the strength of UFC heavyweights.

I think at some point mass has diminished advantages.

Against a normal size human being, Brians statement might rings true.

But I think when guys are well over 250lbs (strong and in shape Im not sure being bigger makes much of a difference.

 

[icemun]

A more interesting question is: who is the smallest fighter you would take at even money to knock Shaw out?

A hard-hitting middleweight? I would have taken MW Poatan over him all day long.

MW Poatan is what? 220lbs

That still a large human being.