Brian Shaw vs Francis Ngannou: "If I had 6 months to prepare and my life depended on it..."

Söze Aldo said:
It's not just a leg infection both his legs show signs of edema, including the one which is apparently not even infected. Stem cells won't do shit for this.

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The man is morbidly obese, yes, he has a lot of muscle but when your body is 400 lbs it barely cares what that weight is made of. He needs to lose at least 100 lbs if he wants to make it into his 50s.

As for this thread, no, Brian is not healthy or mobile enough to beat any half competent MMA fighter over 200 lbs.
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i always say this, 400lbs is 400lbs. just because most of it is muscle doesn't mean anything and in some ways it can be worse because muscle needs oxygen, fat doesn't. there is literally no one in the world today who is "healthy" at 400lbs or even near that weight. besides, how many young bodybuilders/gearheads do we see die all the time. there's tons of obese people but they don't die nearly as often or at such young ages as these roiders do. seems like doing roids and getting buff is a faster way to death then just being a fatso is.
 
There's a huge difference between Dustin and Francis OP. Remember when Francis picked up Shaq? Just replace Shaq with Brain Shaw
 
Pancake Sprawl said:
nah, @Söze Aldo is right. Brian has had bad cellulitis on one of his legs since at least 2023. there was serious thought that he might have to have his leg amputated because of the infection, but it did get better. you have to think being in excess of 400lbs for the majority of his adult life, being 6'8, and using the amount of PEDs he does, there's no way he's "healthy".

i guarantee you his doctors have told him losing weight and getting off the gear will clear up the cellulitis, but since he doesn't it lingers.
here is a vid of him in 2023 talking about his leg, i timestamped where he shows his actual leg. it's like @Söze Aldo said, shit looks like some diabetic necrosis. my guess is that it's because he's so heavy AND tall his circulation to his extremities are completely shit.


as you can see his leg looks proper fucked in 2023. this is his leg in 2025
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in another video a few weeks ago he explained that he had to go into the hospital again in July of this year because it got infected AGAIN. we're talking YEARS of his leg not healing, that's definitely not healthy and usually the sign you have undiagnosed rampant diabetes , you're extremely obese or some other kind of immunity killing disease like AIDS.
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What's the worst case scenario for something like this?
 
HNIC215 said:
What's the worst case scenario for something like this?
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death. if the infection in his leg gets into his blood that might be a wrap. the 2nd worse case scenario is leg amputation. he better hope whatever is in his leg doesn't turn into MRSA.
 
SalvadorAllende said:
He also said he was doing all of this for the fighters and the greater good and he basically fucked everybody else.

Nodoby has trolled Dana and the audience as much since GSP retiring with a title just to come back, win another one and retire again lol.
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He was advocating for fighter's health and safety while being the most prolific hammer fister of dead bodies since Dan Henderson
 
The fact that this is even being asked in 2025 is disheartening. The fact that there are people in here giving Brian a chance in this is even worse. He'd get decapitated cuz he ain't a fighter and Ngannou is... well, was... (I guess?) the best fighter on planet earth.

There are some that will enter the chat saying oh, these guys are trolling; no they are not! They don't understand how fighting works despite having over 3 decades worth of footage showing them what it looks like at the highest level (WMMA excluded for obvious reasons). Brian Shaw can't fight worth shit and would get sparked by every UFC HW on the roster and considering how terrible the roster is right now in terms of raw talent that's saying something. 6 months or 10 years, Brian Shaw does nothing but get worked over by any version of Francis.
 
He might be able to make it messy and chaotic for a bit due to his sheer size and strength, but ultimately he would be separated from his consciousness within 2 mins, maybe 3 if it went to the ground.
 
Shaw doesn't have any way to win outside of a fluke KO. His cardio, takedown defense, submission defense, and striking are all likely shit tier. Francis finishes him within a round.
 
Pancake Sprawl said:
the thing is, his leg has never fully healed since 2023. getting his leg amputated is still on the table. the only reason death isn't mentioned is because the infection has stayed localized to his leg. if it ever gets into his blood he could get sepsis and die.
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He needs to lose massive amounts of weight.

He's around the same height as Anthony Joshua and what, 120lbs heavier?
 
Spath said:
If he had 6 months to prepare, gameplan and train intensively, he’d get KTFO after a minute, maybe. Without that training it would be over very quickly.

Even as strong as that dude is, much stronger than Ngannou, he couldn’t apply it in a fight vs world champion MMA fighter of Ngannou’s size and athleticism.
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This.

TS sounds like he would have believed Arnold Schwarzenegger in the 90s would have KOed Mike Tyson in a fight.

Strongmen are exactly that.... Strong.
They aren't fast on their feet.
They aren't quick with their hands.
They typically have little-to-no combat sports experience.
They're too bulky to be effective fighters against fighters who have built their bodies around fighting.
All of that muscle is a huge liability in the longevity of a fight.

Its as ridiculous to say Heavyweight MMA fighters could compete in strongmen competitions, even against men their own size, as Vice-Versa.


Edit - Would like to add there basically was a strongman that transfered to MMA and did surprisingly well... Shane Carwin.
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Would I like to see a Shane Carwin 2.0 in modern MMA?

Hell yes.

I'd also like an Overeem 2.0, Cain Velasquez 2.0, and Brock Lesnar 2.0.

The current UFC HW roster is abysmal.
 
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Pancake Sprawl said:
in another video a few weeks ago he explained that he had to go into the hospital again in July of this year because it got infected AGAIN. we're talking YEARS of his leg not healing, that's definitely not healthy and usually the sign you have undiagnosed rampant diabetes , you're extremely obese or some other kind of immunity killing disease like AIDS.
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Brian Shaw is extremely obese. There are no two ways about it. Even with the fact that he is extremely tall, still 450 lbs of weight puts a lot of stress on the heart as that much weight requires pumping a lot of blood to provide Oxygenated blood to all extremities. The sooner he comes to the realization, he will have a chance of living a long, healthy life, but if he continues being 450+ lbs, it is just logical and science that he is going to have a lot of health problems.

I see you are also a Strongman enthusiast since you have you have Felix in your avatar. There were really smart strongmen who realized and made the adjustments. I remember looking at Strongman legend Zydrunas Savisckus and he looked completely unrecognizable.

Left is how he looked like when he was competing in the strongest man competitions and right is how he looks like now after he retied.

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PeterGriffin said:
And is Brian Shaw competing in some kind of ridiculous para-MMA as an amputee? Neither him or Eddie Hall are ever making 265lbs as a pro fighter.
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Did I miss where they made the super heavyweight division ILLEGAL?

It just doesn't exist in the UFC because it is not economically viable, like WBW without Cyborg.

Any of these juiced up mutants can go fight in KSW or whatever other regional org would pay them for a SHW freak show fight.

With all of their limbs.

Russia seems to like that type of shit. Didn't they have some mma circus type org doing 2 midgets vs 1 crackhead type of fights fairly recently?
 
Strongmen can lift all they want, their glass jaw will always get cracked by the real fighters!
 
GearSolidMetal said:
This.

TS sounds like he would have believed Arnold Schwarzenegger in the 90s would have KOed Mike Tyson in a fight.

Strongmen are exactly that.... Strong.
They aren't fast on their feet.
They aren't quick with their hands.
They typically have little-to-no combat sports experience.
They're too bulky to be effective fighters against fighters who have built their bodies around fighting.
All of that muscle is a huge liability in the longevity of a fight.

Its as ridiculous to say Heavyweight MMA fighters could compete in strongmen competitions, even against men their own size, as Vice-Versa.


Edit - Would like to add there basically was a strongman that transfered to MMA and did surprisingly well... Shane Carwin.
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Would I like to see a Shane Carwin 2.0 in modern MMA?

Hell yes.

I'd also like an Overeem 2.0, Cain Velasquez 2.0, and Brock Lesnar 2.0.

The current UFC HW roster is abysmal.
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You know what the UFC would have to allow for at least 2 of those 3.
 
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