Boxing kinda sucks. What a shit stoppage.

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dont smoke crack kids

 

[ReyesWon]

Didn't even give him a standing 10 count? There was no definitive end to that fight. Let em fight. WTF

I am happy Tyson Fury won but I was hoping there would be a more definitive end.

His equilibrium was shot.

He could've suffered life threatening injuries if it wasn't stopped.

Just stop.

 

[PHATV]

Lol I said this would happen.

That Wilder's corner would throw in the towel?

 

[Jose Beehive]

The commentary sucked, they didn't even know it was a corner stoppage when it happened.

Took them 3 rounds to realise Wilders ear was bleeding. Clearly not used to blood cos they stop fights based on fighters being tired.

 

[MuayThai101]

Op shot his load real quick.

 

[tramendous]

Jokes aside what did you make of the performance of the fighters? Do you think fury was great or wilder shat himself?

I think fury came in with a better gameplan to close the distance and out muscle deontay. He came in way heavier than last time and the added strength and weight allowed him to bully wilder around the ring. Great performance.

 

[BigSmoke]

I agree. Wilders corner clearly threw in the towel so that the referee could clean the ring. Terrible stoppage and just shows how corrupt boxing is.

 

[Kell Martin]

I'd love to see more of that in MMA. Didn't need to see 3 rounds of Yan murdering Karolina.

 

[Killhippies]

Just watch bare knuckle like the rest of the bleach drinkers if you want a extra helping of stupidity with your just bleed bro-ism. They are all for it over there, luckily for the fighters the other guys break their hand before the real CTE happens.

 

[Jose Beehive]

Just watch bare knuckle like the rest of the bleach drinkers if you want a extra helping of stupidity with your just bleed bro-ism. They are all for it over there, luckily for the fighters the other guys break their hand before the real CTE happens.

Is this a contradiction ?

 

[Killhippies]

Is this a contradiction ?

Kinda, but what most of these people want is to see people beat into bloodly pulps more than knockdowns whenever I see people complain about fights stopping early. Ironically, BK provides just that with less chance for someones brain getting mushed over continuous rounds like they can in boxing because of the wear and tear on the hands. The gloves keep your hands in shape for the later rounds and the less cutting means fights can last longer.

 

[CatchnShoot]

Took them 3 rounds to realise Wilders ear was bleeding. Clearly not used to blood cos they stop fights based on fighters being tired.

Couple things.....there is a huge difference between bodily injury and brain injury. You might perceive the mma guys taking more damage, but it’s mostly superficial in nature...the fighters will heal and be fine for the most part. Brain trauma is a very different prospect.

Except for extremely rarely, nobody dies or goes into a coma from a laceration, or a broken limb.




Secondly, Wilder wasn’t “tired”, he was impaired as a result of being concussed. That you don’t know that is a little embarrassing, IMO.

 

[SolidxSnake]

Didn't even give him a standing 10 count? There was no definitive end to that fight. Let em fight. WTF

I am happy Tyson Fury won but I was hoping there would be a more definitive end.

They threw in the towel man. His corner knew he was done - plus he looked extremely concussed in the interview post-fight.

 

[MartinPocrezze]

Didn't even give him a standing 10 count? There was no definitive end to that fight. Let em fight. WTF

I am happy Tyson Fury won but I was hoping there would be a more definitive end.

Corner trew in the towel

 

[Jose Beehive]

Couple things.....there is a huge difference between bodily injury and brain injury. You might perceive the mma guys taking more damage, but it’s mostly superficial in nature...the fighters will heal and be fine for the most part. Brain trauma is a very different prospect.

Except for extremely rarely, nobody dies or goes into a coma from a laceration, or a broken limb.




Secondly, Wilder wasn’t “tired”, he was impaired as a result of being concussed. That you don’t know that is a little embarrassing, IMO.

How do you know he could have had a brain injury based on that performance? and the dudes kneeing and elbowing each other for 25 minutes earlier with broken jaws and such didn't, thats a big assumption. I'm not a doctor and I presume you're not either and sure as shit the boxing cornermen aren't. Do you think Wilder received punches tonight that came closer to giving him brain injury when he was still striking back than than Felder and Hooker were when they could barely speak and were walking like chickens when the bell finished?

 

[CatchnShoot]

How do you know he could have had a brain injury based on that performance? and the dudes kneeing and elbowing each other for 25 minutes earlier with broken jaws and such didn't, thats a big assumption. I'm not a doctor and I presume you're not either and sure as shit the boxing cornermen aren't. Do you think Wilder received punches tonight that came closer to giving him brain injury when he was still striking back than than Felder and Hooker were when they could barely speak and were walking like chickens when the bell finished?

I am 100% certain that Wilder was brain injured, based on his gait and instability as well as his clearly diminished state of alertness.

I haven’t seen toniht’s UFC card yet, so I can’t say anything about the Felder vs Hooker fight.

When speaking about the relative risks of each sport and their respective injuries, I was referencing statistical generality, not absolutes, and not any specific fight.

Comparing boxing to mma, you are more likely to die in the ring as compared to the cage, and you are more likely to suffer a cut, or a broken bone (hands excluded) in an mma cage vs a boxing ring,

Although neither is what you’d call a low risk activity, you are more likely to suffer traumatic brain injury in a ring vs the cage as well.

 

[Milton_Gracie]

Yeah< I agree with tramendous.. the stoppage was BS.. At the very least they should have at least given Fury the opportunity to do some GnP or maybe at least let Wilder try to escape the submission attempt from Fury

 

[Jose Beehive]

I am 100% certain that Wilder was brain injured, based on his gait and instability as well as his clearly diminished state of alertness.

I haven’t seen toniht’s UFC card yet, so I can’t say anything about the Felder vs Hooker fight.

When speaking about the relative risks of each sport and their respective injuries, I was referencing statistical generality, not absolutes, and not any specific fight.

Comparing boxing to mma, you are more likely to die in the ring as compared to the cage, and you are more likely to suffer a cut, or a broken bone (hands excluded) in an mma cage vs a boxing ring,

Although neither is what you’d call a low risk activity, you are more likely to suffer traumatic brain injury in a ring vs the cage as well.

I didn't say otherwise, show me some evidence. I'm skeptical on Boxing having way more examples to choose from as a way more studied, populated and historic sport having credible stats to accurately prove you are more likely to receive traumatic brain injury in it rather than anything in a cage.
I understand that the amount of head blows and the dull effect of the heavy gloves are more likely to cause damage on the brain over a continued amount of time but that seems super circumstantial and is still really rare in accurate diagnoses, brains aren't an easy thing to study whilst we are alive right? how can you presume such a specific diagnosis without perhaps specialist doctors making this decision still never 100% accurate, normal effects caused from a fight are surely similar to these effects, here's a really bad analogy, to me this is like coughing in a fight and being immediately diagnosed with lung cancer and calling the fight as apposed to just maybe a bit of a cough.
Calling a conclusive concussion based on someones movement seems naive diagnoses based on the affects given, could easily have been from taking a few liver shots and cardio playing a part, speaking unclearly or flustered after a fight could be down to the massive occasion and lack of energy after completing against the worlds best.

 

[Jerry48044]

Didn't even give him a standing 10 count? There was no definitive end to that fight. Let em fight. WTF

I am happy Tyson Fury won but I was hoping there would be a more definitive end.

His corner threw in the towel

 

[wbubbles]

I didn't say otherwise, show me some evidence. I'm skeptical on Boxing having way more examples to choose from as a way more studied, populated and historic sport having credible stats to accurately prove you are more likely to receive traumatic brain injury in it rather than anything in a cage.
I understand that the amount of head blows and the dull effect of the heavy gloves are more likely to cause damage on the brain over a continued amount of time but that seems super circumstantial and is still really rare in accurate diagnoses, brains aren't an easy thing to study whilst we are alive right? how can you presume such a specific diagnosis without perhaps specialist doctors making this decision still never 100% accurate, normal effects caused from a fight are surely similar to these effects, here's a really bad analogy, to me this is like coughing in a fight and being immediately diagnosed with lung cancer and calling the fight as apposed to just maybe a bit of a cough.
Calling a conclusive concussion based on someones movement seems naive diagnoses based on the affects given, could easily have been from taking a few liver shots and cardio playing a part, speaking unclearly or flustered after a fight could be down to the massive occasion and lack of energy after completing against the worlds best.

Come on man... just use your brain... when mma fights have a significant major strike they usually have follow up strikes and quickly are ended by the ref and they're over. Boxing on the other hand lets guys take blows that would end an mma fight then they let the guy thats laid out have up to 9 seconds to recoup and fight again. And this can happen many times during the course of a fight. The amount of blows a boxer takes can accumulate much more than in mma. And the gloves allow some blow dampening leading to many strikes whereas mma gloves with thier less cushioning lead to a ko. Just use logic. I think cte-wise, for your brains long term health it's better to take 1 big hard blow than 100 repeated medium sized blows.