Boxing at 20

lugubriousduck said:
You redeem the honor of the Hawaiian Punch name. You dub yourself Hawaiian Punch and pursue a career in ass kicking. I support you. I got an AAA card.
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how could I do that?...I'm bigger than 132 lbs and I'm not filipino :icon_chee. Jesus Salud rocked the nickname before Viloria did.
 
Punchy sported Hawaiian punch way before those two came out of their father's balls. I do the delegation here. You're fucking Hawaiian Punch. It's either that or Red FRUIT juicy (any combination as long as FRUIT is in all caps and during fight introductions the enunciation of FRUIT has to be distinct and long. Maybe with a girlie voice. Nay, Gilbert Godfrey's voice).
 
How about Fruit Punch?
 
lugubriousduck said:
Punchy sported Hawaiian punch way before those two came out of their father's balls. I do the delegation here. You're fucking Hawaiian Punch. It's either that or Red FRUIT juicy (any combination as long as FRUIT is in all caps and during fight introductions the enunciation of FRUIT has to be distinct and long. Maybe with a girlie voice. Nay, Gilbert Godfrey's voice).
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perhaps that nickname should be reserved for Jermain Taylor as Arkansas leads the nation in per capita consumption of Hawaiian Punch.
 
Hey man,

You love boxing right?

Jay Leno loves cars but he refused the offer to be the host of the US Top Gear adaptation (huge BBC show about cars) Why? Because "Cars are my hobby. When your hobby becomes your JOB, sometimes it's no longer fun."

Just keep in mind that just because you love something as a hobby doesn't mean you'll love it as a CAREER.

Pursue your dreams, but don't give up a good thing for your dreams and regret it Of course what you do with your life is up to you, but what if you get married?

Shouldn't you box as a recreation for a few years before deciding whether to bet your future wife and kids' wellbeing on it?


I'm just saying that because age 20-25 if you are passionate and work HARD is totally enough to hold down school/job full time to get your career a start, and still do something hardcore. I know some motivated guys who go to school/work 9-5 and then go fight/play music/do whatever passion they hope to make a career out of from 5-10 and on weekends. Yeah they've got like no free time but you gotta work hard to make the best of everything

I just don't want you to get the "alright i decided ima be a pro boom ok, that's it for my life" mentality. That kind of mentality ruins lives. Don't just tell yourself "I'm gonna be a pro fighter", tell yourself you're going to hold down school/job and train almost full time on top of that. Virtually all successful people in life are able to hold down this kind of 70-90 hour a week dedication to their future. Prove it to yourself you can do it and be worthy :)

Good luck
 
No one can hold down a job and train full-time, at least not without a part-time job.

P.S. - Don't give up your "dreams" for a good thing...that has to be one of the worst philosophies I've ever heard. I'd rather fail at my dreams than do a good thing for the rest of my life and never know. And this from a guy who has had EVERY reason to not pursue Boxing.

I'd much rather regret what I did than what I never did.
 
It's never too late.
It would have been better to start earlier but go for it!
 
King Kabuki said:
No one can hold down a job and train full-time, at least not without a part-time job.

P.S. - Don't give up your "dreams" for a good thing...that has to be one of the worst philosophies I've ever heard. I'd rather fail at my dreams than do a good thing for the rest of my life and never know. And this from a guy who has had EVERY reason to not pursue Boxing.

I'd much rather regret what I did than what I never did.
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Real talk. Most people are too scared. They're too content being just "content" to leave their precious safety and comfort. It takes balls to sacrifice that and make more of yourself. To follow your dreams and be who you want to be.

Fuck all these sheep who tell you to go after what's "safe." If everybody followed that advice then we wouldn't have any great heros and warriors.
 
Rinksterk said:
Real talk. Most people are too scared. They're too content being just "content" to leave their precious safety and comfort. It takes balls to sacrifice that and make more of yourself. To follow your dreams and be who you want to be.

Fuck all these sheep who tell you to go after what's "safe." If everybody followed that advice then we wouldn't have any great heros and warriors.
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people need to follow their dreams; but make sure they can be independent and not have to impose on people or use others or not take care of their responsibilities. Alot of people want to follow their dreams, but not hold themselves or their responsibilities down.

i have alot of friends who follow their dreams but seem to feel that by following their dreams they are above taking care of business, i.e. they have wives or kids and their not pulling their weight. Worst yet there are some people who are using friends or family; as my dad says i have no prob w/u following ur dreams, just make sure UR following them and UR doing what it takes to reach/achieve them... That doesn't mean just perfecting your craft its making sure u are taking care of urself, finances, responsibilities outside of your dream. An that is for two reasons, ur responsibilities are urs NOT anyone elses; an secondly if you don't reach ur goal or get to the level u want u have to be able to ffunction in the world otherwise. Noone cares that u followed ur dream to be a rapper, singer, fighter, artist, etc; they want to know can u do their job, can u take care of ur kid, can u pay bills.

i remember when fernando vargas bro had a kid, an people were like why isn't he boxing; an nando was like he has a wife and kid to support, mentally/emotionally/financially. Boxing will NOT supercede that, an he is a man and if he wants to follow his dream then he needs to make a way to do both; an if he can't do both and only do one, then the one he needs to do is take care of his family. Its not my job or anyone else to take care of his family while he tries to follow his dream, its his job; an i say that to anyone who has any goal, take care of ur responsibilities and follow ur dreams.
 
Actually, so suggest that everyone is entirely independent when it comes to taking care of their families is to completely go against the idea of social living. Why don't we all live in the woods in cabins, just us and our families then? Why have social programs?

I find that's a very idealistic frame of mind, and people have a tendency to act like following one's Professional goals somehow isolates them from everyone or everything else. IMO that's ridiculous.

Mike has never done anything his whole life other than Box, or train Boxers, and he's done fine. Why? He's smart. An idiot is an idiot regardless of what choices they make, BECAUSE it's those choices that define if they're smart or not. Mike has 3 children now, multiple homes, drives a Beamer, and does far better than I do.

It's all in a person's approach, not in deciding to approach or not.
 
I didn't start training Western Style till I was 17...

But I got a head start 'cause my grandpa was a HW Champ in the Navy Seals, and he taught my father a lot about boxing. My dad kinda did the same for me. 'Cept now I know more than him, and he hates thatttttttt. Hahaha
 
haha just wait till your son comes up to you one day and say...dad you dropped your left hand too much :)
 
King Kabuki said:
Actually, so suggest that everyone is entirely independent when it comes to taking care of their families is to completely go against the idea of social living. Why don't we all live in the woods in cabins, just us and our families then? Why have social programs?

I find that's a very idealistic frame of mind, and people have a tendency to act like following one's Professional goals somehow isolates them from everyone or everything else. IMO that's ridiculous.

Mike has never done anything his whole life other than Box, or train Boxers, and he's done fine. Why? He's smart. An idiot is an idiot regardless of what choices they make, BECAUSE it's those choices that define if they're smart or not. Mike has 3 children now, multiple homes, drives a Beamer, and does far better than I do.

It's all in a person's approach, not in deciding to approach or not.
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i agree, im just saying some people don't want to be responsible, they think their dream supercedes their responsibilities.

my friend has been trying to do music, his wife holds him down working two jobs; because he needs to focus on his music, his wife ain't happy. But she trying to supp the cat and i keep asking him don't u think u should work or something; he feels it takes away from his craft, an maybe he is right. But i FEEL he should hold his wife down and his kid down, if something happens to her or she can't work they are screwed cus while he makes some money its not as much as he puts in.

compare that to my other friend who wants to be a fighter, but still works as a substitute teacher regularly; i have another friend who is trying to do music, but he works fulltime as an emt and makes a way for him and his family. In both cases these guys are passionate in following their dreams; but don't impose on others or make others have to carry the LOAD for them.

Whereas other friends i know who are doing music, are depending on others to finance their dream and not really putting in themselves or sacrficing; im not saying don't help...im not saying don't strive. Im not saying don't try; im saying don't put it on other people to make it happen; be willing to face some of the consequences for what u do, some people give up on their dream or realize they are not cut out for things and they get regular jobs that come w/benefits and a certain security. They don't get to live a certain life, but they get a certain amount of security or whatever; an i don't feel sorry for them, they make choices and have to live or die for them. Just like i don't feel bad for my friends who follow dreams and have issues, u made a choice to chase ur dream and there are good and bad things about it. I have friends who move to follow a dream; an talk ish about people who work regular jobs and don't have the guts to follow dreams, BUT they turn to these people to hold them down, lend them money or let them live w/them so they can follow their dream.


i dont think its about being an idiot its about feeling a sense of entitlement, like im following my dream and people should help me do it, an that isn't the case; whether u follow ur dream or not, u do right or wrong there is good and bad that comes w/that. If u want to chase ur dream chase it, but understand that u might have to sacrifice certain things, understand that at times people who made other decisions won't be able to or want to help u. An its not their job to. U can move to be an actor or singer or rapper or fighter; but u have to pay the price, an that don't mean working hard at ur craft or in that environment. It means taking care of bills or at least trying, it means keeping a job, it means taking care of ur kids, it means not imposing on others to the point they are in bad situations.


i respect everyone's opinion on this, esp urs kabuki and im not trying to go at u or attack ur position; im just speaking from the otherside, which i see alot of. People following dreams, but using others to follow it; lying to women/family/friends to get money, so much to the point these people are in bad situations. Or people who feel that their job should adjust to the schedule of said dream, instead of doing their job; then getting mad at a mgr or whoever who expects them to be responsible and do their job.

see where im coming from, im all for following ur dreams; im not for people who think because they are following their dream that they are better than those who just work normal jobs, but then go to these people to allow them to follow their dream.
 
Your definately not too old man, but the later you start boxing, the longer that it will take. And the longer it takes you to make that transition from training boxing to eating, sleeping, and breathing the shit, than it will take even longer.

You should try to get at least 30 fights before you turn pro. There are always amateur tournaments going on, and I know guys that had 100+ fights by the time they were 17. Hell, Oscar De La Hoya posted an amateur record of 233-5. If you are truly commited and want to go pro, you could easily have 30 fights, if not 40-60, by the time you turn 25.
 
20 beginning boxing and looking for a career i say its too late. i agree with devante on this one.
 
SwiftMcvay said:
Your definately not too old man, but the later you start boxing, the longer that it will take. And the longer it takes you to make that transition from training boxing to eating, sleeping, and breathing the shit, than it will take even longer.

You should try to get at least 30 fights before you turn pro. There are always amateur tournaments going on, and I know guys that had 100+ fights by the time they were 17. Hell, Oscar De La Hoya posted an amateur record of 233-5. If you are truly commited and want to go pro, you could easily have 30 fights, if not 40-60, by the time you turn 25.
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Actually, if done right, you can get up to 30 am bouts in one year.
 
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