Both Charlie Olives and Islam are Overrated Mega Thread

[Shaun K]

I dont think its how good he is right now, but his ceiling.

You want overrated? Khamzat.

 

[TheWave111]

Look at this supposedly "great" win streak. You compare this to Gaethje, Poirier or Khabib's recent records and its embarassing. So tell me again why Makhachev deserves to be mentioned in their category? Chandler has a stronger case IMO.

Bobby Green: Most overrated LW of all time probably

Dan Hooker: 2 fight losing skid, lost four of his last five

Thiago Moises: 2 fight losing skid, likely fighting for his job next month

Drew Dober: 11 career losses, just won his first fight in two years

Davi Ramos: Dude hasn't fought in over 2 years.

This is title shot worthy? Does anyone know who half these guys are?

Charles Oliveira doesn't agree with you. He is ducking Islam.
Gaethje, Pourier and Chandler don't agree with you either. They are ducking Islam as well.
You sound like Chandler.
When Islam was ranked 10th Chandler didn't want to fight him because Islam was supposedly ranked too low.
When Islam was ranked in the top 5 Chandler went silent and is still avoiding.
The same Chandler who avoids Islam is telling the media that islam doesn't deserve a titleshot because he didn't beat a top 5 guy.
The dishonesty is amazing.

It's not only Islam fans. Even in the U.S. where Islam doesn't have much fans rate him above Charles in the bettings.

You should accept the reality. Islam is the best lightweight fighter right now in the eyes of the public and UFC fighters.
It's not only Islam fans.
That's why you made this thread. Inside you feel it as well.

 

[Chael_Sonnen]

I'm no fan of Dagestani's in general, but Makachev is legit. Just because he hasn't fought the best competition doesn't mean his skills aren't some of the best in the division.

He is similar to Khabib except defensively much more sound in the striking, and focuses on subs instead of ground and pound.

All those guys on his win streak are solid. Not great, but all solid. I would have liked to see him vs a top 5 before a TS, but in the current circumstances I don't mind him getting the next shot at Charles. Hopefully we get Chandler vs Conor and Justin v Dustin and Dariush vs Gregor or RDA.

 

[wisdom blows]

MMA turds don't know what the 'eye test' is. Glad as fuck boxing fans aren't anywhere near as dumb as CTE ridden just bleed drunk drones.

Khamzat passed the eye test more than anyone ever, and just had a war when he fought a top 3 guy. Let Islam fight someone with a pulse first before giving him a title shot.

 

[fortheo]

Yet there's so many people on here talking about how Islam getting a title shot is the only thing that makes sense.

Islam is great, but it's odd to me how he has so much more push than someone like Arnold Allen, a guy who is basically in the same exact position as islam but in a different division.

 

[GOATchaev]

Hahhaha, Olives will beat this man easily.

 

[randomg1t]

these threads are funny because the exact same horseshit was being parroted around here when khabib was being lined up for a tile fight.

everyone and their mother bitched and whined about how he hasn't fought anyone and how his record is padded with cans.

2 years later everyone was on his nuts, and now they're moaning about makhachev. when he wins the title, he'll suddenly be the GOAT.

 

[PurpleDrank]

Say it with me, 10 wins in a row at lightweight. People have gotten shots for less. Another point is no one is really making shit competitive with him recently. Hes doing what he should be doing.

 

[TempleoftheDog]

Oh but if you can’t see the skill level and just wash his balls, you’re merely a hater.

Khabib’s fanbase is easily the worst right now. They figure as a challenger they even get to pick the date and location of his TS. Let the guy get a top 5 win against Dariush in a few months. Enough freebies and late replacements for this guy. Earn it or shut up.

 

[PurpleDrank]

these threads are funny because the exact same horseshit was being parroted around here when khabib was being lined up for a tile fight.

everyone and their mother bitched and whined about how he hasn't fought anyone and how his record is padded with cans.

2 years later everyone was on his nuts, and now they're moaning about makhachev. when he wins the title, he'll suddenly be the GOAT.

Ya these threads always pop up every once in a while. People said the same shit about Charles. "He doesnt deserve a shot because he has 1 good win"

 

[KantoTerror]

He's good but until he dominates a top 10 fighters, he ain't great.

 

[Kryptt]

 

[Safton]

I'm a big proponent of how having low-level opponents on your resume is fine so long as you beat them in the way you're expected to beat them. In that regard, Islam has shown plenty of skills and I believe he's elite and almost certainly potential championship material.

That being said, the eye test only gets you so far and is in some cases outright nonsense. Resume and strength of schedule matter at the end of the day, too.

I hope Islam gets the opportunities he deserves.

 

[ilfirin]

 

[13Seconds]

Islam is a far more intelligent fighter than Chandler and Gaethje, that’s what makes him way more dangerous to Chuck. Even besides his skills.

If Charles is as bad as you make him out to be, then Islam would be overrated too if he beats him.

If Charles resume is overrated, then what is Islams? Who has he actually beat?

The OP is actually true, most sherbros unfortunately are too dumb to read. The OP was a criticism of his resume up until that point, idiots on this thread are jumping through hoops trying to imply it means it applies forever and ever. Lol.

But you still called him overrated a page ago. Lol whatever man. You do you

 

[I WILL CUT YOU]

Yes Islam's resume is very overrated, but Bobby Green is hardly the most overrated LW of all time. Have you heard of BJ Penn?

BJ Penn destroyed a prime Matt Hughes, went toe to toe with GSP, and fought Machida at heavyweight.

Fucking making me get on here and defend Baby Jay, ya goof. I don't believe you've even seen the man fight.



Fucking neophyte.

 

[Alpha-Q-Up]

Overrated lmao...wait till the Oliveira/Islam fight, then you can tell us how "Overrated" Charles was

 

[Gunther12345]

Look at this supposedly "great" win streak. You compare this to Gaethje, Poirier or Khabib's recent records and its embarassing. So tell me again why Makhachev deserves to be mentioned in their category? Chandler has a stronger case IMO.

Bobby Green: Most overrated LW of all time probably

Dan Hooker: 2 fight losing skid, lost four of his last five

Thiago Moises: 2 fight losing skid, likely fighting for his job next month

Drew Dober: 11 career losses, just won his first fight in two years

Davi Ramos: Dude hasn't fought in over 2 years.

This is title shot worthy? Does anyone know who half these guys are?

he's just getting started. Give him time to build a solid resume, Islam is legit

 

[par6597]

if he is so terrible why don't olives stans want another easy win for their boy? why all the excuses and calling out anybody but this guy?

 

[Sean Rhino]

Look at this supposedly "great" win streak. You compare this to Gaethje, Poirier or Khabib's recent records and its embarassing. So tell me again why Makhachev deserves to be mentioned in their category? Chandler has a stronger case IMO.

Bobby Green: Most overrated LW of all time probably

Okay, this is an embarrassing thread. And here come the Oliveira fans, as if they aren't annoying enough. Fucking hell.