Boiler Room (2000)

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shadow_priest_x said:
Just looked it up on IMDB. I watch a shitload of movies and, honestly, I only recognized like three of the names.
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Give it watch. Its worth it.

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shadow_priest_x said:
Just looked it up on IMDB. I watch a shitload of movies and, honestly, I only recognized like three of the names.
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How many movies do you watch?

Jennifer Love Hewitt
Peter Facinelli
Seth Green
Sean Patrick Thomas
Freddy Rodriguez
Donald Faison
Jaime Pressly
Jason Segel
Eric Balfour
Selma Blair
Sara Rue
Jenna Elfman
Melissa Joan Hart
Breckin Meyer
Jerry O'Connell

There are quite a few more names I didn't mention that lots of people would recognize.
 
posted this in the SMD thread, shouldve posted in here first tho.

inspired really through the boiler room thread, i thought id revisit it

so i caught that, wall street, and wall street: money never sleeps

looking for recommendations. i was thinking glengarry glen ross since ive never watched it
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help me out
 
MuyThaiTom said:
How many movies do you watch?

Jennifer Love Hewitt
Peter Facinelli
Seth Green
Sean Patrick Thomas
Freddy Rodriguez
Donald Faison
Jaime Pressly
Jason Segel
Eric Balfour
Selma Blair
Sara Rue
Jenna Elfman
Melissa Joan Hart
Breckin Meyer
Jerry O'Connell

There are quite a few more names I didn't mention that lots of people would recognize.
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Literally hundreds every year, though I suspect I may not watch a lot of the types of movies that this list of people would appear in.

Of everyone that you mentioned, a few are familiar, many are not.
 
KnightTemplar said:
Because the films are driven by different emotions. Boiler Room is all about Greed. It's no coincidence that Wall Street is the favorite movie of the main characters; they are fanatical in their adherence to Gecko's, Greed is Good philosophy. As Affleck points out in his speech, he's a senior citizen by the standards of the company, and he's only 27. Most of the major characters are high on the perceived invincibility of youth. They believe they can have anything they want, that they are Alpha Wolves in a world of Sheep.

By contrast, Glengarry, Glen Ross is driven by Fear. The main characters are not young men with their whole lives ahead of them. With a very few exceptions, they are losers. Old men with their best years behind them. They know they are not going to become millionaires. They are just trying to keep their heads above water. It's easier to identify with guys who are doing a job they don't like and aren't even that good at, just to keep the wolf from the door, than a bunch of young douche bags who, right up until the end, are living pretty good lives.

Glengarry, Glen Ross is far more intense, emotionally involving film because of this. And the performance of Lemon, Pacino, Spacey, Baldwin and Harris are of a far higher caliber.

Finally, there is no happy ending in GG. Boiler Room ends with the main protagonist finding some form of redemption, both legal and moral. His father will not face legal action, the firm is about to be raided by the FBI and the poor schmuck who lost his life savings gets his money back. Even Vin gets his Vader on and returns to the Light Side of the Force just in time.

By contrast, Glengarry, Glen Ross ends with shattered dreams and lives. Pacino loses his sale, Harris will probably lose his job and Lemon will almost certainly end up in jail. While his daughter is in hospital with a life-threatening condition. This is fiction rooted firmly in reality: in the real world, you can give your all and it still won't be enough. Some fights you just can't win no matter how hard you swing. And if you fall, people are just as likely to trample on you as to help you to stand again.
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I like the film overall but really didn't like the ending.

The first hour is fantastic though and Affleck's performance was great.

"Anybody who tells you that money is the root of all evil doesn't fucking have any....

... they say money can't buy happiness? Well look at the fucking smile on my face, ear to ear baby!"
 
It was OK but it's no Wall Street nor Wolf of Wall Street.
 
dc007 said:
Now that's just crazy talk.
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For me, how much I enjoyed a movie can largely be discerned by its rewatchability. Wall Street is good, but is it a movie that I want to watch over and over and over? Not really. I've seen it maybe . . . 3 times. And I'll watch it again, but it will probably be at least a few years before I do.

Wolf is a little more rewatchable. I'll revisit that one more than Wall Street. But I'm still not going to watch it all the time or even once a year.

I've probably seen Boiler Room 20 times. It's the most fun of all three films and the most quotable. These days I don't watch it as much as I used to, but I still get back around to it on a fairly regular basis.
 
That's funny because I have the same criteria. I watched Boiler Room once and it was enough whereas I have watched Wall Street dozens of times and WOWS a couple of times. Boiler Room is a poor man's Wall Street.
 
I agree with this. Some movies you can always enjoy over and over. Doesn't have to be the 'best' film, but there are some of those movies for each of us that we really enjoy and can always watch. For me, it's movies that brings me back to childhood like Stand By Me. And for some reason, I can always watch Encino Man...


shadow_priest_x said:
For me, how much I enjoyed a movie can largely be discerned by its rewatchability. Wall Street is good, but is it a movie that I want to watch over and over and over? Not really. I've seen it maybe . . . 3 times. And I'll watch it again, but it will probably be at least a few years before I do.

Wolf is a little more rewatchable. I'll revisit that one more than Wall Street. But I'm still not going to watch it all the time or even once a year.

I've probably seen Boiler Room 20 times. It's the most fun of all three films and the most quotable. These days I don't watch it as much as I used to, but I still get back around to it on a fairly regular basis.
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Billy Blanks said:
I agree with this. Some movies you can always enjoy over and over. Doesn't have to be the 'best' film, but there are some of those movies for each of us that we really enjoy and can always watch. For me, it's movies that brings me back to childhood like Stand By Me. And for some reason, I can always watch Encino Man...
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This brings up the question, "What makes a movie good?" Or what makes a movie a quality movie. You always hear people say, "It's not a good movie but I love it anyway because it's a lot of fun" or something along those lines.

But I would argue that whatever intangible thing it is that makes a person come back over and over and over should be counted in its favor and should be regarded as a quality element of the film.

I've heard people say:

"The Fast and the Furious is not a good movie but. . ."
"The Mummy is not a good movie but. . ."
"Bloodsport is not a good movie but. . ."
etc. . .

The list really goes on and on. My response is that if they're not good movies, why the fuck do I want to watch them over and over?
 
I don't know why people think Wolf Of Wall
street is the bee's knees.


Wall Street with Douglas is a far far superior movie.
 
KONG-D'SNT-TAP said:
I don't know why people think Wolf Of Wall
street is the bee's knees.


Wall Street with Douglas is a far far superior movie.
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Scorsese that's why. He considers it his trilogy between Good Fellas, Casino, and WOWS. All based on real dudes, Henry Hill, Anthony Spilotro, and Jordan Belfort. All three are very similar shot movies in that style.

What's crazy about boiler room and WOWS, is they're both based on the same dude. Boiler room was loosely based on Jordan Belfort's firm. I dig both boiler room and WOWS, tough to say which is the better movie, they're both good in their own rights
 
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