After seeing some posts in another thread I thought I'd start this one to avoid throwing that thread off on a tangent. Basicly a few people have commented that a good bodybuilding routine is fairly close (no not identical but close in a lot of the critical elements) to a PL style workout. Maybe we'll be able to have an actual discussion instead of the usual flame war over BBers being ghey and vain. I suppose if I had to define myself as a lifter it would be "a hobbiest (not even an amateur) NATURAL bodybuilder". By this I mean that I don't think I'd ever possess the physique or desire to don posing trunks and hit the stage. But I would consider myself something of a token bodybuilder. My point is that on Sherdog I'd call myself a bodybuilder in here for discussion purposes but in no way claim to have built a physique where people would think 'now that's a bodybuilder'. Ok, on to my point of the thread. I'll post my routine below. It's along the lines of a classic bodybuilding split. Note that it's pretty much a standard BBing routine. But contrary to popular belief it's not all about high reps, isolation moves, and getting a pump. Mon: Chest Day Incline Bench (barbell) Flat Bench (barbell) Weighted Dips Finish with incline dumbell flies and a cable flies Tues (BJJ and open roll then): Arms and abs Barbell curls Dumbell hammer curls Machine preachers Skull crushers Two handed dumbell extensions (both hands on the bell lower to behind head and raise up) Rope press-downs Abs: Hanging leg raises, weighted declines with a twist, V-ups Wed: Off Thurs: Back and Cardio Deadlifts Barbell Rows Weighted Chins Nautilus Xplode one handed pull downs Cable rows Cardio- Jump-rope and/or intervals on a stepmill (NOT stairmaster) Fri: Legs Front Squats or Back Squats Leg Press Hack Squats Leg Extension Hamstring Curl Standing calf raise, seated calf raise Sat (BJJ and open roll then): Shoulders Military Press Dumbell Press Upright rows Barbell Shrugs Dumbell Flies Sun: Off Now my point is this. You can point to the discrepancies but look at the similarities. On almost every given day (except arms) you have 3 compound movements. You have 'the big three' each on their own day. Yes there's some isolation to finish things off... after the compound movements are done. The big isolation days are following several hours of grappling and are more 'finishing off' the muscle on a heavy grappling day. My point is not a 'look at my spiffy routine'. But rather to point out that despite all the hate for a bodybuilding style of workout, any decent bodybuilding workout is relatively close to a big three, powerlfiting, or other advocated workouts. I think a lot of the hating on real bodybuilding workouts come from people who aren't familiar with how a 'real' bodybuilder lifts. Ok, I've had my say. Bring on the flames.