BLM protestors struck by car during freeway protest in Seattle

[Seso]

Very stupid from the driver.
But seriously? No warning lights, black clothes in the night on a highway, on a fucking highway???

 

[BarryDillon]

Stopping for a mob on the highway has potentially disastrous results. My safety is more important than theirs. Period.

The suspect had to drive the wrong way up and exit ramp, and around parked cars to accelerate into people who were well ahead of where he was when entering the freeway illegally.

Also, he wasn't mobbed in the video. Hypothetical scenarios aren't particularly elucidating when we have a video of the incident we're discussing.

 

[BEER]

Stopping for a mob on the highway has potentially disastrous results. My safety is more important than theirs. Period.

I'd have far more sympathy for the driver if he slowed down to move around the roadblock and tried to safely avoid protesters. I'd even side with them if he tried to move safely and they attacked the car.

None of that happened though, he swerved around the roadblock and accelerated towards protesters. He allegedly entered the highway illegally. He may have even been evading police, but the jury is out on that one at the moment.

 

[Deleted member 159002]

Now who's trying to load questions (quite poorly, I might add)? You've been exposed in this thread as a murderous ideologue. This was my basic interest.

It's not a loaded question. Yes or no, do non-state actors have the moral authority to determine what terms other people travel on public roads under?

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

Nope. I'm usually asleep at that hour.

But I have protested on highways. All of the protests since this shit started have had cops blocking the roadways, and the only confrontations have been cops in Virginia Beach starting shit because they're trying to protect their resort image.

how dare they try and maintain law and order,.

 

[irish_thug]

The suspect had to drive the wrong way up and exit ramp, and around parked cars to accelerate into people who were well ahead of where he was when entering the freeway illegally.

Also, he wasn't mobbed in the video. Hypothetical scenarios aren't particularly elucidating when we have a video of the incident we're discussing.

Allegedly

 

[BEER]

Very stupid from the driver.
But seriously? No warning lights, black clothes in the night on a highway, on a fucking highway???

Cars stopped sideways on the highway would have been visible for a few hundred yards, at very least. It's not like he was shocked to see the cars that had been there the entire time he was speeding towards them.

 

[Madmick]

Wow, what a take.

The police didn't say the protesters had the right to be out on the road despite the closure. The driver might have made a simple mistake. It's impossible to know or prove otherwise unless the driver explicitly states he/she evaded barriers on purpose because that happens. I have no issue with the driver being fined for that.

But hitting the protesters? The driver didn't force them to stand on a freeway, and based on ample precedent, has reason to fear for his/her life if stopping-- not that it appears this person had a lot of time to stop, but the driver may have interpreted the civilian cars blocking the roadways to be set up by protesters to force them into one of these channels where a crowd jumps on a car, and screams at the driver.

The bottom line is the protesters shouldn't be on a freeway.

You're a disgusting fascist. You don't have the right to murder people based on the actions of other theoretical people. That's completely insane.

I didn't see anything in the OP article or video that indicated murder.

I see you're on yellows. Not surprised.

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

Very stupid from the driver.
But seriously? No warning lights, black clothes in the night on a highway, on a fucking highway???

as terrible as this action was, leftists aren't particularly known for their intelligence and common sense.

 

[irish_thug]

I'd have far more sympathy for the driver if he slowed down to move around the roadblock and tried to safely avoid protesters. I'd even side with them if he tried to move safely and they attacked the car.

None of that happened though, he swerved around the roadblock and accelerated towards protesters. He allegedly entered the highway illegally. He may have even been evading police, but the jury is out on that one at the moment.

Trying to get through groups of protesters slowly has led to numerous people's vehicles having windows smashed out, people jumping on their cars, etc. I'm not playing those games. Granted I'm also not trying to speed through them at 65mph

 

[BEER]

Allegedly

Yes "allegedly".

The video shows him speeding toward stopped cars, swerving around them, and accelerating into a crowd.

Those are the raw facts we can see on the video. Which is pretty much enough to bring charges against him.

Everything prior to that is "alleged".

 

[Prokofievian]

It's not a loaded question. Yes or no, do non-state actors have the moral authority to determine what terms other people travel on public roads under?

It is. And you're a murderous ideologue.

 

[HappyCamper]

Stopping for a mob on the highway has potentially disastrous results. My safety is more important than theirs. Period.

This.

A lot of lily white people who have never witnessed a car jacking ITT.

 

[Deleted member 159002]

It is. And you're a murderous ideologue.

You didn't answer my question.

 

[Sketch]

Hmmmm. Probably not the time to discuss my sense of humor. Did the kid make it? That sounds awful.

Yeah he survived if I remember correctly.

 

[Prokofievian]

You didn't answer my question.

That's correct.

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

This.

A lot of lily white people who have never witnessed a car jacking ITT.

what's really funny is that they would blame the owner of the vehicle (especially if they were Asian or white) for being carjacked, rather than the criminals.

 

[Drain Bamage]

I fucking hate my city god damn why did I move here

 

[Deleted member 159002]

That's correct.

So do non-state actors have the moral authority to control other people's bodies on public roads? If so, how do you know they have this moral authority?

 

[BEER]

Trying to get through groups of protesters slowly has led to numerous people's vehicles having windows smashed out, people jumping on their cars, etc. I'm not playing those games. Granted I'm also not trying to speed through them at 65mph

If I'm driving down the highway (and I most certainly wouldn't drive up an exit ramp to do so, you know... "allegedly") and saw cars stopped sideways, my first reaction would be to slow way the hell down.

Either (A), I know there is a protest blocking traffic and now I'm stopped on the highway behind the cars blocking the road. Maybe I try to drive around and IF people start attacking my car, I might downshift and just drive. In that scenario, the protesters gave me a reason to fear for my safety.

Or (B), I don't know there is a protest on the road and I assume the cars sideways on the highway were involved in an accident. I pull to the shoulder and check to see if anyone needs help. I imagine at that point, I'd become aware that it's a protest. Being that I generally support the protests (even if they're dumb protests), I'd offer them water and hang out for a few minutes, and eventually ask if I can pass through to get home.

There is NO scenario in which I see that scene and decide to just speed through. Whether or not it's legal for people to be in the road, there has to be a bearing of responsibility for people who recklessly drive with or without intent to use their car as a weapon.