BLM belt

[Old Cat]

Oh yes...Just what this party needed.
Are people inherently evil because they are Marxist?
Can a Marxist not have a valid cause that is not related to them exclusively?
Because they are Marxist does that make everything they say not valid?

Let's change the perspective..
If somebody believes in a hardcore fundamental theocracy and they are protesting and speaking out against animal abuse, should I dismis that cause because I dont agree with them on non related fundamental beliefs?

I clearly said one can agree w the phrase BLM and not support the organization.

Btw, I personally don’t think Marxist doctrine is a good idea for blacks , greens or any color human. I’m going to encourage everyone I can to stop supporting them, regardless of what cause they have attached themselves to no matter how noble it may sound. History shows me 100s of millions dead at the feet of that horrific ideology. That’s my right an a free American.

 

[Old Cat]

well i don’t have a times subscription so i can’t read that article. at any rate, actblue is an independent fundraising platform. they are obviously left-wing. i’m not saying they aren’t. but they aren’t funneling secret money into DNC campaigns. it’s just kickstarter for democrats.

nothing is secret. It’s simply an organization that explicitly raises funds for the DNC. That is fine but there is no reason for one to pretend otherwise l.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

nothing is secret. It’s simply an organization that explicitly raises funds for the DNC. That is fine but there is no reason for one to pretend otherwise l.

they don't raise funds for the DNC though lol BLM's money doesn't get funneled to anyone but themselves & their own operations and ActBlue simply provides a platform/interface for the DNC to accept donations.

 

[DeJulez]

How did I miss this gem? Hey friends. * Smiles *


btw BLM’s founders/leaders are Marxist. They have been quite vocal about it.


“The first thing, I think, is that we actually do have an ideological frame. Myself and Alicia in particular are trained organizers,” she said, referring to BLM co-founder Alicia Garza.

“We are trained Marxists. We are super-versed on, sort of, ideological theories. And I think that what we really tried to do is build a movement that could be utilized by many, many black folk,”


I can see why an American would be okay w the phase BLM and absolutely not want to be associated w the organization. Many have pointed out that the fund sent to them get funneled through act blue directly to the DNC. There are all kinds of challenges w the organization itself. So accusing one of racism for being opposed to the entity is sophomoric and is worst type of reductionist argument. Just saying.

The thing is, alot of black ppl see the statement and support the statement.
I know ppl that if you went up and said "I dont support Black Lives Matter. They're Marxist." They would ask "Who the fuck is Mark?"

They are looking at it as direct and blunt as it is. Do Black lives matter?

It is a tricky one simply because of the title. Its almost as if it was set up that way.

 

[Quacky Chan]

Its about raising awareness.

While WBC likes to makeup fake bullshit belts (money belt, franchise belt, mayan belt) this is actually for a legitimate and real cause.
I hope all revenue and donations go to BLM chapters particularly where unarmed blacks often (and racially) victimized,

And hopefully they can convince young black men to stop shooting each other bc the cops aren't the real problem.

The BLM "movement" is hurting black people and all their poster children turn out to be full of shit.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

I clearly said one can agree w the phrase BLM and not support the organization.

Btw, I personally don’t think Marxist doctrine is a good idea for blacks , greens or any color human. I’m going to encourage everyone I can to stop supporting them, regardless of what cause they have attached themselves to no matter how noble it may sound. History shows me 100s of millions dead at the feet of that horrific ideology. That’s my right an a free American.

But a Marxist agenda is not the BLM agenda.
Thats a false equivalency.
What are you specifically seeing that overlaps?
2 separate things. You can't use them as synonyms.
And per usual direct questions don't get answered.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

And hopefully they can convince young black men to stop shooting each other bc the cops aren't the real problem.

The BLM "movement" is hurting black people and all their poster children turn out to be full of shit.

2 separate issues. One does not take away from the other.

 

[JayE]

I clearly said one can agree w the phrase BLM and not support the organization.

Btw, I personally don’t think Marxist doctrine is a good idea for blacks , greens or any color human. I’m going to encourage everyone I can to stop supporting them, regardless of what cause they have attached themselves to no matter how noble it may sound. History shows me 100s of millions dead at the feet of that horrific ideology. That’s my right an a free American.

What is the BLM organization? It's a broad movement with tons of different orgs who claim to be part of it (orgs whose ideologies vary from Marxist-Leninism to the most milquetoast forms of liberalism to extremely reactionary black nationalists - the entire political spectrum is covered), but there isn't a single organization. For the record, actual Marxists (not ones that Americans see lurking around every corner) tend to be rather critical of the more prominent organizations that typify the movement (mostly claiming that they're completely ineffective or have been totally co-opted).

 

[bobStash]

Its about raising awareness.

While WBC likes to makeup fake bullshit belts (money belt, franchise belt, mayan belt) this is actually for a legitimate and real cause.
I hope all revenue and donations go to BLM chapters particularly where unarmed blacks often (and racially) victimized,

What would happen if a White person won it?

 

[bobStash]

it bothers racists and bigots

Sure that's it. Not the cities being burned down.

 

[Old Cat]

But a Marxist agenda is not the BLM agenda.
Thats a false equivalency.
What are you specifically seeing that overlaps?
2 separate things. You can't use them as synonyms.
And per usual direct questions don't get answered.

Of course it is, their website was quite clear.



I did answer the question, in fact I did in my first post.

 

[Old Cat]

What is the BLM organization? It's a broad movement with tons of different orgs who claim to be part of it (orgs whose ideologies vary from Marxist-Leninism to the most milquetoast forms of liberalism to extremely reactionary black nationalists - the entire political spectrum is covered), but there isn't a single organization. For the record, actual Marxists (not ones that Americans see lurking around every corner) tend to be rather critical of the more prominent organizations that typify the movement (mostly claiming that they're completely ineffective or have been totally co-opted).

The one all the corporations and stars are steadily raising money for and donating to is the one I’m talking about.

 

[Old Cat]

The thing is, alot of black ppl see the statement and support the statement.
I know ppl that if you went up and said "I dont support Black Lives Matter. They're Marxist." They would ask "Who the fuck is Mark?"

They are looking at it as direct and blunt as it is. Do Black lives matter?

It is a tricky one simply because of the title. Its almost as if it was set up that way.

I never said these were dumb people. It’s genius to tell the truth. You either pay up or you’re racist and Black Lives Don’t Matter, brilliant.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Of course it is, their website was quite clear.



I did answer the question, in fact I did in my first post.

You did not. Dodged them, par for course.
BLM is about countering racism. Not your crusade against Marxism.

 

[JayE]

The one all the corporations and stars are steadily raising money for and donating to is the one I’m talking about.

I'm not sure which one you mean. Can you specify?

 

[Rick890]

Why do the 3 letters BLM bother people so much? Not like its the KKK belt.

Because the group represents a bunch of racist dipships.

99% of the people who oppose BLM are not at all racist. They just realize that most of the people involved with the group are greedy, racist, terrible human beings who don't do a damn thing that's actually helpful.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Because the group represents a bunch of racist dipships.

99% of the people who oppose BLM are not at all racist. They just realize that most of the people involved with the group are greedy, racist, terrible human beings who don't do a damn thing that's actually helpful.

99% huh? Just making up random arbitrary #s....Yeah, you sound informed. Yeah the people speaking out against and protesting racism are the racist...sure.
Its funny how protesting is protected under our constitutional rights yet a lot of you "patriots" are so against it. Its like skip the 1st amendment and only get a hard on for the 2nd amendment. I don't get it....

 

[hillelslovak87]

 

[Old Cat]

I'm not sure which one you mean. Can you specify?

BLM proper. BLM Global Network Foundation is a good start

 

[sweetviolenturg]

99% huh? Just making up random arbitrary #s....Yeah, you sound informed. Yeah the people speaking out against and protesting racism are the racist...sure.
Its funny how protesting is protected under our constitutional rights yet a lot of you "patriots" are so against it. Its like skip the 1st amendment and only get a hard on for the 2nd amendment. I don't get it....

Wow. You actually got someone with a 2016 white belt account who has a grand total of 30 posts over the course of almost four & a half years to resurface long enough to post something racist. I don't know if you should feel honored or disgusted though. It's amazing the sort of rubbish that some people will say while supposedly "not being racist", isn't it?