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[KAZSoliloquy]

Can you revise your gimmick? I want to laugh but 2/10

it’s not a gimmick he’s just not as educated on the subject. his heart is obv in the right place

 

[WklySportsMemes]

It’s OK to disagree with me, but don’t make yourself look silly by trying to demean me.

You are very sensitive. That's not demeaning. Now this I would agree with the other side on. Sensitivity overall is out of control. They are right about that.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

it’s not a gimmick he’s just not as educated on the subject. his heart is obv in the right place

Maybe...but its only fair to call out the B.S. "on our side" too. We can't act like every point they make doesn't have some validity.
People picking weird things liketo go after the word black kind of proves the other side right and makes it a game of semantics instead of real issues. We call ourselves black. We liked black over colored, n word, and negro. . . African American does not include other just as dark skinned Caribbean or Island people who are not ADOS but still suffer from the things that BLM speaks out against. The freaking movement is called BLACK Lives Matter....

 

[Boxiana]

that movement died a long time ago. black people are black and want to be recognized as such. referring to them as “african american” also invalidates them being brought here against their will.

I’m English, not American, so we have different experiences and different perspectives. I’m just sharing mine.

 

[Boxiana]

You are very sensitive. That's not demeaning. Now this I would agree with the other side on. Sensitivity overall is out of control. They are right about that.

I’m not sensitive, I just have a different viewpoint.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

I’m not sensitive, I just have a different viewpoint.

So Black is a slur or derogatory in England?
In America its only demeaning based off context.

 

[Jonny Ninja]

Referring to white and black ppl as whites and blacks isn't really considered racist here in America. Calling a black person colored is considered bigoted, tho. That's something my grandparents used to say a lot and me and my brother would always cringe, haha.

That pretty much applies to over heat as well. I’m not sure what he is talking about

So Black is a slur or derogatory in England?
In America its only demeaning based off context.

it isn’t derogatory. I suppose it can be a bit of a minefield for people that don’t live in diverse communities. Times change and what was acceptable 20-30 years ago isn’t necessarily acceptable now. I would image on very similar lines to the US. You guys lead in this

at the end of the day if you know a term or a phrase is gonna cause offence, why use it? I’ve no need to ever use the N word. It doesn’t affect that person in any way, shape or form. It only affects the person you are saying it to

 

[Jonny Ninja]

Well, people are trying to link issues to ethnicity/ skin colour, but in a lot of cases - poverty for instance which is at the root of so many of societies problems - it has nothing to do with skin colour.

Yes, it disproportionately affects people of certain ethnicity and / or colour, but to frame it as a race issue misses the point and is divisive. Just like referring to people as “blacks”.

I agree, poor people generally get fcked over in this country, it’s not a level playing field. but more ethnic minorities find themselves in this position because of systemic racism

 

[VodkaDrunkenski]

it bothers racists and bigots

And people who’ve had their business/homes burned to the ground by rioting feral mobs

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

And people who’ve had their business/homes burned to the ground by rioting feral mobs

they should have burned more tbh

 

[JayE]

Well, people are trying to link issues to ethnicity/ skin colour, but in a lot of cases - poverty for instance which is at the root of so many of societies problems - it has nothing to do with skin colour.

Yes, it disproportionately affects people of certain ethnicity and / or colour, but to frame it as a race issue misses the point and is divisive. Just like referring to people as “blacks”.

I agree that overlooking class in all this makes improvement of anything essentially impossible. The issue of police excesses could be framed a lot better than just an issue of racial discrimination (and it goes well beyond just policing), especially if people were to look at the role police forces have played since the industrial revolution. Minimizing the fact that it is essentially always minorities who receive disproportionate (sometimes massively disproportionate) abuse (I'm not saying you're doing this) is definitely not the way to go, though.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

And people who’ve had their business/homes burned to the ground by rioting feral mobs

BLM protestors are not necessarily the ones using the opportunity to loot and pillage.
We have seen all races, opportunists, and even legit chaos agents caught in the act on these videos.

 

[Boxiana]

I agree that overlooking class in all this makes improvement of anything essentially impossible. The issue of police excesses could be framed a lot better than just an issue of racial discrimination (and it goes well beyond just policing), especially if people were to look at the role police forces have played since the industrial revolution. Minimizing the fact that it is essentially always minorities who receive disproportionate (sometimes massively disproportionate) abuse (I'm not saying you're doing this) is definitely not the way to go, though.

I’m definitely not trying to minimize and I certainly recognise that there are still racial disparencies on top of everything else that society is trying to deal with.

It’s just that I was brought up by my parents to not judge people by the colour of their skin / ethnicity / race but on who they are as a person - it seemed a pretty good way to address the undoubted racism that exists in society and I encourage my kid to be the same.

With this background, I find it really difficult to accept that characterizing people by their skin colour (“the blacks”) is a step forward - to me it just feels like a step backwards and I wince when I hear it.

 

[HandNoise]

Can you revise your gimmick? I want to laugh but 2/10

guess they call em dark humans overthere? Lmao

 

[HandNoise]

Sure thing edgelord.....

1. Again, 2 seperate issues. I dont know why its so hard for you guys to understand that. Yes black people kill more black people. Just like white people kill more white people. Thats based on people living and interacting with their own groups.
Guys like you bring that up not because you care to fix both issues, but to use that as justification to continue to be an ass and look down on an entire group of people.
When black people allegedly commit crimes against other black people there are legal ramifications and the justice system goes full force. When law enforcement commit crimes against black people it is not treated the same way. I think thats where the difference is. One is state supported. Justice vs injustice.

Wow for somebody who pretends to be so tough, hardcore, and against victim mentality you sure do get triggered by a simple passive harmless act of a knee. FYI somebody's constitutional right.
Legit question...You feel that same way about people who don't where their mask in public right?

He obviously thinks he’s from here more than you and I, maybe ask him what tribe he’s from? Lol

 

[Quacky Chan]

Sure thing edgelord.....

1. Again, 2 seperate issues. I dont know why its so hard for you guys to understand that. Yes black people kill more black people. Just like white people kill more white people. Thats based on people living and interacting with their own groups.
Guys like you bring that up not because you care to fix both issues, but to use that as justification to continue to be an ass and look down on an entire group of people.
When black people allegedly commit crimes against other black people there are legal ramifications and the justice system goes full force. When law enforcement commit crimes against black people it is not treated the same way. I think thats where the difference is. One is state supported. Justice vs injustice.

Wow for somebody who pretends to be so tough, hardcore, and against victim mentality you sure do get triggered by a simple passive harmless act of a knee. FYI somebody's constitutional right.
Legit question...You feel that same way about people who don't where their mask in public right?

Unarmed black men who aren't committing crimes or justifying deadly force by cops are such a low number of killings it is absolutely ridiculous to focus on that and ignore the thousands of black on black murders. I'll look up the Washington Post article but the number is like 18 or 20 per year.

So why do we only care about our fellow Americans when a cop kills them? When do black folks start to realize that leftist victimhood culture and big government programs will never save them?

I find it despicable that we focus on the completely wrong things and aren't actually improving our world. As far as triggered, no man, I'm not emotional about it I just wholeheartedly disagree. People can disagree and still get along and I am trying to do that in today's culture. Kap has the right to kneel and his employer chose to keep him around. Now his employer feels the consequences of their choice and all their woke vs is biting them in the ass.

 

[Quacky Chan]

you seem to struggle with understanding what injustice is. white people have 99% of the power. they have held black people down with laws, systemic poverty, violence, and slavery for centuries. their acts constitute the term 'injustice' with the requisite power balance.

You know how black slaves got to America? They were sold by black people! So actually they were being held down by more powerful blacks who created a system of poverty, violence, and slavery that is actually still going today.

I don't see racial injustice in 2020, in America, against black folks in any significance, but I see victims everywhere looking to have their beaks filled by mama bird.

 

[Quacky Chan]

I agree, poor people generally get fcked over in this country, it’s not a level playing field. but more ethnic minorities find themselves in this position because of systemic racism

So an ethnic minority who graduates high school, works full time, and waits to have a kid until married is fcked over? Even if he keeps his nose clean? I don't buy it. And if minorities keep buying then they'll never get anywhere.

Black folks believe in meritocracy in sports but they won't beleive in meritocracy in education, economics, and culture? Cmon... The information is there, the individuals have to make better choices if they want better outcomes.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Unarmed black men who aren't committing crimes or justifying deadly force by cops are such a low number of killings it is absolutely ridiculous to focus on that and ignore the thousands of black on black murders. I'll look up the Washington Post article but the number is like 18 or 20 per year.

So why do we only care about our fellow Americans when a cop kills them? When do black folks start to realize that leftist victimhood culture and big government programs will never save them?

I find it despicable that we focus on the completely wrong things and aren't actually improving our world. As far as triggered, no man, I'm not emotional about it I just wholeheartedly disagree. People can disagree and still get along and I am trying to do that in today's culture. Kap has the right to kneel and his employer chose to keep him around. Now his employer feels the consequences of their choice and all their woke vs is biting them in the ass.

Don't need your fake stats. Especially when the stats don't show the clear instances of Police misconduct being covered up and allowed. Of course the stats don't show it when cases like George Floyd are on video for the entire world to be disgusted by only for the State and department to still cover it up in front of everyone... Or same with innocent Breanna Taylor. Fk your crooked stats.
Also, I'm not interested in what a hardcore Police State enthusiast thinks. I only care about what true American patriots think. People who actually KNOW and stand up for constitutional rights. Informed people who know that just because you are being charged with or investigated for a petty crime the police can't kill you or use excessive force.

You made up a false ignorant narrative about me "only caring" for one instance... You don't know me and you have no idea what I care about. Made up strawman argument. Also, you are not qualified or informed enough to speak on what is best for black people.
I see you dodged the mask question completely because it exposes you for what you are.
NFL and Nike will be just fine. Despite all you FAKE patriots pretending to boycott.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

You know how black slaves got to America? They were sold by black people! So actually they were being held down by more powerful blacks who created a system of poverty, violence, and slavery that is actually still going today.

they were sold to white people, the only market for slaves, so this argument is pointless