BLACK PANTHER v.4 (Dragonlord's Review)

If you have seen BLACK PANTHER, how would you rate it?


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Update: February 13, 2018

Dragonlord’s Review of BLACK PANTHER
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Bottom Line: Rooted with social and geopolitical themes, Black Panther is part James Bond actioner, part Shakespearean family pathos, and filled with multi-faceted characters and superb performances by an amazing cast.

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At this point in time it’s undeniable that Marvel Studios is the premier superhero studio among its peers. What is sometimes underappreciated by others is the different sub-genres Marvel Studios instills into their films. Winter Soldier was a gritty espionage thriller. Ant-Man was a heist film. Doctor Strange delved into the mystical arts. Guardians of the Galaxy was space comedy adventure. Homecoming was a high school, coming-of-age flick. BvS and JL were a hot mess… sorry, wrong studio.

Black Panther is the eighteenth feature film in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) and it’s as different as what Marvel Studios has ever done. Black Panther is a superhero film grounded with social and geopolitical themes, that’s part James Bond actioner, part Shakespearean family pathos, part Game of Thrones clan representation and part Lord of the Rings grand battle, and filled with multi-faceted, fleshed-out characters and superb performances by an amazing cast.

The titular character was created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby back in July 1966 (before the Black Panther Party was even created) and is considered as the first black superhero in American mainstream comic books. Introduced first and following the events of Captain America: Civil War, T’Challa (Chadwick Boseman) continues his journey as the new king of Wakanda but his reign is tested as he faces an old foe and a mysterious figure from his country’s past.

The supporting cast is simply outstanding. Letitia Wright was adorable as the scene-stealing Shuri, T’Challa’s younger sister and Wakanda’s tech genius. Her close sibling relationship with T’Challa grants Shuri as the only character allowed to constantly take cheeky jabs at the king and provides some lighthearted humor. Andy Serkis was great as the exuberant villain, Ulysses Klaue, complete with sonic arm-cannon. Danai Gurira was exceptional as the bad-ass Okoye, head of the Dora Milaje (Wakanda’s version of secret service). Angela Bassett was the perfection of regality as T’Challa’s queen mother.

Rounding up the remaining terrific supporting characters, Lupita Nyong’o, Daniel Kaluuya, Martin Freeman, Sterling K. Brown, and Winston Duke were terrific as elite spy and T’Challa’s love interest Nakia, T’Challa’s best friend W’Kabi, amiable CIA agent Everett Ross, T'Challa's uncle N'Jobu and proud tribal leader M’Baku, respectively.

It is generally known that the MCU does not have a lot of memorable bad guys on its resume. But they seem to be turning it around starting with last year’s batch of villains with Michael Keaton’s blue collar Vulture and Cate Blanchett’s sultry and maniacal Hela. Going for 3 for 3, Michael B. Jordan’s Erik “Killmonger” Stevens joins the shortlist of one of MCU’s best villains. Jordan was magnificent as the ruthless antagonist who displays savage efficiency, a forceful authority, pent-up fury and whose radical ideology is not totally unrelatable.

Black Panther holds the distinction of being the first MCU movie that features a character’s first solo outing that feels like a sequel rather than an origin movie (Homecoming arguably qualifies but it felt like an origin movie). And this is one of the reasons why I felt an emotional disconnection to T’Challa early on. Chadwick Boseman is physically splendid as Black Panther and his acting performance is superb. It’s just the way the movie was written allowed little time to fully explore T’Challa’s character and personality. I also think T’Challa lacks a certain amount of charm that made other MCU heroes so likable. Fortunately, the movie was fast-paced, the story was engaging and the other characters were captivating to offset my minor qualms.

Wakanda is like a character unto itself with its gorgeous landscapes and technologically-advanced city. The worldbuilding is very remarkable, from the politics and looks of the different tribes to the mythology behind the legend. Its isolationist policy hides the true nature of Wakanda and disguises itself as a Third World country whose national export products are textile and clothes. This is where the film’s moral dilemma is presented: Share its wealth, medicine and science with the world but risk inviting strife and conflict and also putting a target on their back.

The scope of the film is not limited to the fictional African country; its purview stretches from the U.S. to London, England to Busan, South Korea. The Busan action scenes were the best among the rest as the casino sequence was like a slick James Bond homage highlighted by an impressive one-take fight scene and then capped off with a fun, furious car chase in the streets of South Korea.

Black Panther’s suit looks fantastic but the fact that it’s coated with Vibranium lessens the tension or the specialness of the action scenes when the wearer is impervious to harm. Bullets bounce off the suit without any impact or recoil. The wearer can survive a fall from hundred feet without a scratch. Not also fond of the new nanotech suit that just appears and disappears on a whim and conveniently stored in a necklace. Call me old school but I like the “realism” of it all when Tony Stark had to have a robotic assembly line just to put on and take off his Iron Man suit.

The Black Panther action scenes were not as impressive as those he showed in Civil War. Half of the blame again goes to his new costume where he can shrug off blows and bullets like they were nothing. The sense of danger isn't danger and therefore the choreography also suffered since why the need for elaborate fancy evasion and martial arts moves when the hero is virtually invulnerable.

Writer/director Ryan Coogler not only made a highly entertaining comic book movie with a good story and wonderful characters, Marvel’s Black Panther is also an inspiration to a large section of the population that is not always well represented in this genre and giving kids new role models they can relate and look up to.

RATING: 8/10

The first post-credits scene shows T’Challa addressing the United Nations. He opens the doors to Wakanda to the world and sharing its resources to the other countries. A member of the U.N. questions, with all due respect, what can a country of farmers contribute to the world. Everett Ross smiles in the background. T’Challa smiles wryly. End of scene. With Vibranium and Wakanda’s science and technology being shared with the world, this will drastically change the landscape of the MCU.

The second post-credits scene shows Bucky waking up from a tent near the river. The Wakandan kids are calling him “White Wolf.” Shuri greets Bucky and tells him he has much to learn. End of scene. This scene implies that Bucky has been cured of his brainwash and is safe enough to be let out of the cryogenic chamber.

Sucks that Klaue died. He was a great secondary villain that could have been elevated to main villain status in the future.

“Delete that footage!” lol

If they really wanted to hide Wakanda’s true nature from Ross, they could have had him placed in a normal clinic when he was still unconscious and recuperating.

I like the fact that Killmonger defeated T'Challa fair and square. It's nice to see the hero not be the best fighter once in a while.

The war rhino was awesome. The field battle with the war rhinos reminded me of LOTR or The Hobbit.

Though they didn't reveal the Soul Stone in the movie, I still believe that it is in Wakanda in the form of the vibranium deposit or the Stone was inside the meteor or it was the meteor that crashed in Wakanda. Similar to the Aether, the Vibranium could be reshaped depending on the wielder.

Plus the fact that the heart-shaped herb that grants its user not only Black Panther powers but also access to the spirit realm makes me believe more that the Soul Stone is underneath Wakanda.

I'll add more when I get back.

Links to previous threads:

Black Panther Official Thread 2.0

Black Panther Official Thread 3.0
 
Update: February 20, 2018

BLACK PANTHER Will Surpass JUSTICE LEAGUE's U.S. Box Office Total in 4 Days


Lol. This is just embarrassing for WB and DC Films. Black Panther's first 4 days will surpass Justice League's U.S. box office total.

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Update: February 20, 2018

BLACK PANTHER Climbs to Historic $242 Million Bow After Record Monday


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In a defining moment for diversity and Hollywood, Disney's and Marvel Studios' Black Panther debuted to a record-shattering $242 million at the Presidents' Day box office, according to updated estimates.

The bold superhero film passed up Star Wars: The Last Jedi ($241.6 million) to earn more in its first four days than any movie in history at the North American box office, save for Star Wars: The Force Awakens ($288.1 million), not adjusted for inflation. Black Pantheralso scored the biggest Monday in history with $40.2 million, besting Force Awakens' $40.1 million.

Black Panther's three-day haul of $201.8 million is the fifth- biggest domestic opening of all time, and the second-biggest for a superhero title behind fellow Marvel pic The Avengers ($207.4 million).

Throughout Presidents' Day weekend, estimates for the film were continually revised upward.

Directed by Ryan Coogler, Black Panther is the first big-budget studio tentpole to feature virtually an all-black cast.

Black Panther was fueled by a diverse audience. According to comScore, 37 percent of ticket buyers were African American. Caucasians made up the next largest group (35 percent), followed by Hispanics (18 percent). That sort of demographic breakdown is unheard of for an all-audience event film. On average, African Americans make up about 15 percent of the audience for superhero fare.

Females also turned out in force to see Black Panther, heralded for its portrayal of strong women, making up 45 percent of all ticket buyers (that share is usually 35 to 40 percent on a superhero movie's opening weekend).

Other records broken include those of the biggest opening for an African-American director, the top-scoring superhero film on Rotten Tomatoes (97 percent) and the biggest February bow, supplanting previous champ Deadpool, which took in $152.2 million over the four-day Presidents' Day weekend in 2016.

Audiences bestowed Black Panther with an A+ CinemaScore (the only other Marvel title to earn the mark was Avengers).

Black Panther, which cost $200 million to make before marketing, also had a major push overseas, launching to $1,846 million through Monday for a global debut of $426.6 million. It opened in every major market save for Russia (Feb. 22), Japan (March 1) and China (March 9). While Black Panther isn't the sensation internationally that it is in the U.S., it came in ahead of expectations for an American film with a black cast.

Box Office: 'Black Panther' Climbs to Historic $242 Million Bow After Record Monday
 
Update: February 25, 2018

Marvel's BLACK PANTHER Scores Record $108 Million in Second Weekend


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Ryan Coogler's groundbreaking superhero pic Black Panthercontinued to defy all expectations in its sophomore outing, grossing an estimated $108 million from 4,020 theaters to score the top second weekend of all time behind Star Wars: Force Awakens.

The Disney and Marvel title hit the $400 million mark domestically in only 10 days after dropping a narrow 47 percent in its second weekend. That's one of the lowest declines ever for a superhero title, as well as one of the lowest for a film launching north of $200 million (the bigger the opening, the bigger the drop in many instances). Thanks to Black Panther, domestic revenue year to date is now up a dazzling 12.5 percent over the same period in 2017 after running behind by more than 1 percent two weeks ago, according to comScore.

Overseas, Black Panther earned $83.8 million for an international tally of $304 million and global haul of $704 million, including $50 million for Imax theaters. It has yet to open in Russia, Japan and China.

In North America, Black Panther — becoming the fourth movie to cross $100 million in its second weekend — earned more in its second outing than a number of 2017 tentpoles did in their first weekend, including Wonder Woman ($103.3 million), Justice League ($93 million) and The Fast and the Furious ($98.8 million). And it ties with Jurassic World in reaching $400 million faster than any film in history behind Force Awakens.

Another accomplishment: Black Panther is already the top-grossing February of all time domestically — Deadpool was the previous best with $363.1 million — and is on the verge of becoming the No. 3 MCU title of all time in the U.S. as it prepares to pass up Captain America: Civil War ($408 million) and Iron Man 3 ($409 million) in the next few days. And it will soon growl past Avengers: Age of Ultron ($459 million) on its way to potentially eclipsing The Avengers ($623.4 million) to become the No. 1 superhero title of all time, unadjusted for inflation.

Force Awakens is the champ in terms of biggest second weekend domestically with $149.2 million, not accounting for inflation. Other films high up on the list include Jurassic World ($106.6 million) and fellow MCU title The Avengers ($103.1 million).

Weekend Box Office: Marvel's 'Black Panther' Scores Record $108 Million in Second Outing
 
I had to laugh to myself at the scene where they were discussing all the issues that letting refugees into their country would create. I'm sure jimmies were rustled in some audience members. I was wondering if Wakanda would open it's borders by the end of the movie...nope. All they did was buy some buildings and offer help to the other countries... in their countries.

Really enjoyed the movie. Interesting story and I'm sure Marvel didn't anticipate (or maybe they did) that Black Panther would become a inspiration icon for black culture. I honestly didn't see it coming when he made his cameo in Civil War, but it's been cool to see. Kind of like how Moana was source of pride for Pacific Islanders.

To me, Black Panther was always a cool character with an interesting back story. My kids also liked the character from the cartoon Avengers and the Marvel Alliance video game.

I gave it an 8/10... will watch again later on DVD.
 
WW was better imo. The epic cgi battle against the librarian was really bad though

if the final battle had been even 'slightly' better, wonder woman was a better movie. that final scene made me shake my head but everything leading up to that was decent.

BP was decent in everything except the fight scenes and CGI
 
is it wrong for me to feel a little pissed off that this movie is undoubtly getting alot of attention and hype because of political and social/ racial issues? i had a bad feeling this would be the case before the movie was released but didnt realize how much it would bother me.
I love comics, and i love comic book movies, even the bad ones. ive seen them all even when i knew they were going to be bad. and i take them for what they are entertainment. case in point i knew punisher war zone was going to be pretty horrible just from the trailers... and it was... but i actually enjoyed it for what it was. I loved the action and violence in the opening portion of the film. not a ton of substance but it gave me some joy watching the punisher do his thing.
i feel like outsiders and non fans are jumping on board and boasting black panther for the wrong reasons. i mean... i just cant really get behind the whole " its more than a movie" thing.
its like the black panther got hijacked and turned into a political symbol. is that a good thing? im not sure.
i get that people take away from a film all sorts of things and thats great im not saying its wrong for people to feel something special about it or any other movie for that matter. but at least be honest about the movie and the history of these movies.
i get that its a landmark for movie making and having a majority black cast and all. and thats great. but lets be honest here. a 98% before it was even released? its the lion king with over done cg... and the lion king was based on hamlet.. the writing is not terrible. but it sure as hell wasent all that original thats for sure.

i guess i just feel like my precious comic book movies became a victim of their own success in that it got tied in with some political issues that i feel do a disservice to the film itself, and the whole " comic book movie" genre as a whole.
i guess its a good thing that the masses are getting behind it in the long run. lets just hope they continue to support other " nerdy" things regardless of the skin color of the cast.
i know , i know. i sound like hitler right now.

that being said i didnt hate the movie. but im starting to hate the hype. i figured it out the other day. its fringe top 10 ranking for MCU movies, not even top 25 in comic book movies as a whole. but thats just me and my silly rankings.
 
if the final battle had been even 'slightly' better, wonder woman was a better movie. that final scene made me shake my head but everything leading up to that was decent.

BP was decent in everything except the fight scenes and CGI
The movie did nothing to make you give a shit about any of the characters other than Uncle Panther. He seemed like the only guy with any depth.

No reason to buy into the romance.
No reason to feel any remorse when ghost dog got killed.
Panther’s friend was miscast. Got nothing from him or even that character.

Really disappointing.
 
is it wrong for me to feel a little pissed off that this movie is undoubtly getting alot of attention and hype because of political and social/ racial issues? i had a bad feeling this would be the case before the movie was released but didnt realize how much it would bother me.
I love comics, and i love comic book movies, even the bad ones. ive seen them all even when i knew they were going to be bad. and i take them for what they are entertainment. case in point i knew punisher war zone was going to be pretty horrible just from the trailers... and it was... but i actually enjoyed it for what it was. I loved the action and violence in the opening portion of the film. not a ton of substance but it gave me some joy watching the punisher do his thing.
i feel like outsiders and non fans are jumping on board and boasting black panther for the wrong reasons. i mean... i just cant really get behind the whole " its more than a movie" thing.
its like the black panther got hijacked and turned into a political symbol. is that a good thing? im not sure.
i get that people take away from a film all sorts of things and thats great im not saying its wrong for people to feel something special about it or any other movie for that matter. but at least be honest about the movie and the history of these movies.
i get that its a landmark for movie making and having a majority black cast and all. and thats great. but lets be honest here. a 98% before it was even released? its the lion king with over done cg... and the lion king was based on hamlet.. the writing is not terrible. but it sure as hell wasent all that original thats for sure.

i guess i just feel like my precious comic book movies became a victim of their own success in that it got tied in with some political issues that i feel do a disservice to the film itself, and the whole " comic book movie" genre as a whole.
i guess its a good thing that the masses are getting behind it in the long run. lets just hope they continue to support other " nerdy" things regardless of the skin color of the cast.
i know , i know. i sound like hitler right now.

that being said i didnt hate the movie. but im starting to hate the hype. i figured it out the other day. its fringe top 10 ranking for MCU movies, not even top 25 in comic book movies as a whole. but thats just me and my silly rankings.
Seems like you're overthinking this?
If you liked it then why do you care what other people thought about it or what its being hailed as?
If it doesnt affect your life then fuck it, who cares
 
technologically advanced society but still fights with spears and knives. Also, rides rino with armor.

Stupid
 
Seems like you're overthinking this?
If you liked it then why do you care what other people thought about it or what its being hailed as?
If it doesnt affect your life then fuck it, who cares

in part i dont really care. people can enjoy whatever they want as much as they want.
but as a self proclaimed nerd it bothers me when people bandwagon on the shit that they turned their noses up at me for liking years ago.
its kinda like how after TUF the boards where suddenly flooded with so called " long time fans" who watched ufc 1 live. and discredited any sort of mma other than the ufc.
if that makes any sense.
at the end of the day its just a movie to me. and i simply have to laugh at some of the things people are attributing to the film and the things they are saying about it and other films of its ilk.
being as big of a fan of comics and the genre as i am, i guess i was a little caught off guard that i didnt like it as much as so many others would and im trying to figure out why that is. but again its just entertainment.
 
It is what it is. Certain movies hit a wave and
dont forget the force field blankets!

Sort of like certain mystical warriors who learn telekinesis and telepathy yet still use a laser sword in combat?
 
walked away pretty impressed by al the supporting characters and story. i echo the sentiments that the final battle was pretty anti-climatic and was very poorly choreographed. What happened to T'Challa's fighting style from Civil War to this point? Killmonger and Panthers fight scene was more on the lines of Couture wall and stall for the most part.
 
walked away pretty impressed by al the supporting characters and story. i echo the sentiments that the final battle was pretty anti-climatic and was very poorly choreographed. What happened to T'Challa's fighting style from Civil War to this point? Killmonger and Panthers fight scene was more on the lines of Couture wall and stall for the most part.
Awesome AV bro.

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