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Crime Black man refuses to pay his tab in biker bar, gets jumped and beat down

But the thread opens by highlighting that only one side was being painted by media as particularly heinous, and specifically
Cutting out in a bar tab is hardly “heinous”. It’s wrong, but saying “both sides acted heinously” sounds like you’re equating stealing beers to gratuitous bodily harm and shit stomping a man who’s held down. I know you’re smarter than that and far more reasonable, but it’s how it comes across.

I’m all for a discussion or highlighting media bias in a particular story but this whole thread is chalk full of a bunch of guys saying, “lol FAFO”
 
Cutting out in a bar tab is hardly “heinous”. It’s wrong, but saying “both sides acted heinously” sounds like you’re equating stealing beers to gratuitous bodily harm and shit stomping a man who’s held down. I know you’re smarter than that and far more reasonable, but it’s how it comes across.

I’m all for a discussion or highlighting media bias in a particular story but this whole thread is chalk full of a bunch of guys saying, “lol FAFO”
Stealing is heinous. I know your liberal sensibilities handicap you from seeing this truth, but in fact, this is the "reasonable" position. In the case of the (allegedly) false narrative that dashing to dodge a tab was the cause of this, it would have been closer to equal in heinousness by the virtue that it was what caused the overreaction.

Similar to how in the Street Coliseum we've seen a guy thrashed who smacked another man's wife/gf's ass. A smack on the ass is sexual assault, but if we were being "reasonable" like you, we'd say, meh, in the grand scheme of sexual assault, it's not that serious, and there certainly was no threat to the wife's safety. Meanwhile, the husband who commits a GBI in response, a gross bodily injury, from a sustained assault and battery, might be the one guilty of a "heinous" act.

Thankfully, in reality, most of the "reasonable" people I know hold my values, and appreciate the husband is justified to starch the living fuck out of someone who thinks he can just wander up and get handsy with his wife, because even if we acknowledge one might go too far, and both parties ultimately end up in the wrong, in that context, there were no problems until the first man caused a problem, so the flow of the events influences how we perceive the degree of moral trespass.
 
I’m all for a discussion or highlighting media bias in a particular story but this whole thread is chalk full of a bunch of guys saying, “lol FAFO”
Because it's an easy perspective to have. Who the fuck walks into a biker bar, racks up a tab and doesn't pay up? Like you're asking for it at that point.

Like if there was a video of a white guy walking into the hood yelling racial obscenities only for him to get a beat down I highly doubt you'd be saying the same shit you are here, but instead "lol FAFO" don't lie.
 
Frontier justice is pretty black and white. Either we follow laws or we don’t.

I think most everyone would agree that the general principle is people ought to follow laws. But of course there are going to be some cases and circumstances where not following them is justified. On the nose example would be speeding when rushing someone to the hospital with a life threatening injury.

Then there are cases and circumstances and outcomes far from black and white such as all the debate around the United Healthcare CEO, civil disobedience etc. In this case, my general preference is people still follow laws, but there's a wide spectrum of outcomes. I mean, if some asshole lead cops on a high speed chase for two hours putting everyone's life in danger, I'm not gonna cry if they get manhandled a bit excessively once the chase ends. But that's a far cry from endorsing a police officer putting a bullet in the person's brain.

With bar tab runner idiot guy, of course I would feel bad if he had permanent brain damage. But if the outcome is a black eye and bruised ego combined with a lesson learned, I'm not upset over that.
 
Buncha shit bag criminal pussies had to jump one guy and now a buncha internet try hards are gonna hero worship them, what a shameful turn of events
This is Syracuse all over again

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Stealing is heinous. I know your liberal sensibilities handicap you from seeing this truth, but in fact, this is the "reasonable" position. In the case of the (allegedly) false narrative that dashing to dodge a tab was the cause of this, it would have been closer to equal in heinousness by the virtue that it was what caused the overreaction.

Similar to how in the Street Coliseum we've seen a guy thrashed who smacked another man's wife/gf's ass. A smack on the ass is sexual assault, but if we were being "reasonable" like you, we'd say, meh, in the grand scheme of sexual assault, it's not that serious, and there certainly was no threat to the wife's safety. Meanwhile, the husband who commits a GBI in response, a gross bodily injury, from a sustained assault and battery, might be the one guilty of a "heinous" act.

Thankfully, in reality, most of the "reasonable" people I know hold my values, and appreciate the husband is justified to starch the living fuck out of someone who thinks he can just wander up and get handsy with his wife, because even if we acknowledge one might go too far, and both parties ultimately end up in the wrong, in that context, there were no problems until the first man caused a problem, so the flow of the events influences how we perceive the degree of moral trespass.

People have gotten too accepting of theft for sure. Fucking stores around where I live get shit stolen literally every day. The supermarket I go to I so often see people just grab shit, throw in in a bag and walk out the front door. That stuff means higher prices for honest people like myself. They're not robbing the store, they are robbing everyone.

Going into a business and just robbing stuff with the expectation that nobody will do anything about it of course is much different than reaching into someone's pocket and pulling out their wallet and not expecting to get punched for it; yet the consequence of the act is essentially the same.

Yet a lot of these social activist types want to just say that's nothing, and that saying something mean is a more serious crime. It's fucking absurd.
 
If he felt comfortable enough to try to leave without paying, that should say a lot on a supposed "racism" from the bikers. Because of course, they just turned racists once the guy refused to pay
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So, can it be two things? He should have paid his bill and the gang of white guys screaming racist shit and mauling him could be, I dunno, racist?

No it's have to be one or another. It's the war room. Binary thinking.

Jokes aside yeah it's pretty obvious. The guy is a douche for not paying his tab but the gang of biker that jumps him 10 Vs 1 when there was ZERO need for it to restrain him are way bigger douches.

Was the guy drunk or mentally challenged ? Cause he appeared out of place and seemed he didn't know how to react.
 
You are a racist, @Koro_11

You are the most disgusting person I have come across here.
I don't know anything about him, but the way he framed the story and gave attention to it seems like he really wanted to see a black guy beaten up by a bunch of white guys, all the better because there's some sort of moral justification for this one. Otherwise, why be so gleeful to point out someone of one race getting beaten down by a gang of men of another race?
 
No it's have to be one or another. It's the war room. Binary thinking.

Jokes aside yeah it's pretty obvious. The guy is a douche for not paying his tab but the gang of biker that jumps him 10 Vs 1 when there was ZERO need for it to restrain him are way bigger douches.

Was the guy drunk or mentally challenged ? Cause he appeared out of place and seemed he didn't know how to react.
Reasonable take.
 
So, can it be two things? He should have paid his bill and the gang of white guys screaming racist shit and mauling him could be, I dunno, racist?
Yeah I mean, they weren't yelling, "Cheapskate!" or "Deadbeat!"
 
The real life equivalent was not quite so amusing lol

Some idiot bikers did this in Sammy the Bull Gravano's bar back in the 80s and got away. But by the next day the head Biker heard who he had fucked with and then got shot, his 16 year old got shot and killed beside him so he ran and had to go into hiding for years, and came back years later begging for forgiveness

There's always a bigger fish.
 
Nice fake LOL. You found something on youtube so that's supposedly gonna reflects a large percentage of cases? What % of cases do you think establishments even bother to report to police, let alone have police do anything about it? Sure your odds might be better in some small town where police sit in parking lots all day looking for something to do, but the vast majority of the time, sorry.

"I saw something on youtube, it must apply for the majority of cases" isn't a good look. I've worked in the industry, I know tons of people who work in the industry, it's not close to being a well enforced crime. Your one point that is valid, IT'S SO COMMON for a reason, the odds of meaningful punishment are very low so dine and dashes are very common.

And even if I did "slave at a shit hole", at least I was making an honest living and not stealing from people, so pardon me for not giving a fuck about people that do. Hopefully the idiot that got stomped didn't get permanent brain damage or anything too bad, but I don't give the slightest of shits that he got beat up during his theft. There's so many people in this world that act decent and get victimized, i save my sympathy for them; I'm not gonna feel sorry for assholes finding trouble arising from crimes they're committing.
lol i love these coments. what in paralell universe black guy got up paid and left would all this happen off course not
 
I'm pretty sure a bunch of outlaws will be equally racist and obnoxious and beat the shit out of anyone that fucks with their bar. The fact that a gang split someone's wig over not paying a tab and then yelled mean things was a predictable outcome, and the racist words they used isn't even a blip on the radar in the context of what happened
On please these days fake or not beatdowns like smollett and this is design to see how many people would gang up on people being set up with " hate crime" bs we have seen with smollett how fast we got to accuse people just because they suport Trump to be and in this instance bikers
 
lol i love these coments. what in paralell universe black guy got up paid and left would all this happen off course not

Yes I’m sure those law abiding bikers that never commit any crimes or kill people would never do anything violent

They are known for being very peaceful I heard
 
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