Black Holes and Interstellar Travel

[Kick Strickland]

What if? Everything we see beyond our own Solar System is a hologram....a huge movie screen of sorts....The intelligent life that created all of this knows that we will at best only get so far...the only thing I just thought of is The Voyager....they must have captured it and have it sending back info as if it was outside our SS...

I own ALL the planets in the WORLD!

 

[jkthenatural]

I have no doubt that there is life out there some where but I doubt the reason we haven't seen them is because of them running into black holes haha

 

[gspieler]

You're basically talking about the Fermi Paradox. And there are many possible solutions to why we haven't come into contact with other "intelligent" life in the universe...

We live in a remote part of the Galaxy
Civilizations get wiped out before they have the tech to travel such vast distances
They are here; we just don't know it(different dimensions et al)
There's no reason for anyone to come here
life is scarce, even in something as big as the universe
A deity created the universe 6000 years ago, and life only exists on Earth

 

[j123]

Or they could be like us:

Too stupid to get off their own planet

 

[Pugilistic]

Don't let me leave, Murph.

Murph! Muurrph!!!

Pretty much all I remember from that movie is McConaughey screaming that over and over again

 

[Gene Tunney]

Or they could be like us:

Too stupid to get off their own planet

I suppose that we are kind of stupid. We lust for money, treat each other like dirt, and need war to speed up technology. We certainly need to reflect on our progress thus far if we want to live up to our potential. There is a role for us in the heavens if we do not lose our way on the path to enlightenment.

 

[jabba the punk]

If worm holes aren't a viable way to traverse the "void" and light speed is indeed the cosmic speed limit, interplanetary travel to other star systems would take too long and very unpractical.

If my facts are straight, by traveling at light speed, you would age much slower because time will have slowed and everyone else out side of light speed will age fast due to an acceleration of time.

Moments at light speed could be generations for all the slow pokes not space traveling.

 

[jabba the punk]

Maybe by space design, no one is to achieve intercosmic travel via traveling in time (which is what you do in light speed). But instead you just travel within layers of other dimensions. Could play out to be more practice than trying to cross the vastness of nothingness like a bunch of sailors trying to discover new worlds.

 

[Shokushu Goukan]

if you go into a black hole you will get spaghettified

 

[BornOnMonday]

if you go into a black hole you will get spaghettified

Sounds delicious.

 

[Aegon Spengler]

Well, if you're intelligent enough to move through space at any speed...you're probably smart enough to avoid flying into the gravity well of a black hole.

Even you can't move at light speed, just surviving a long space flight would require impressive tech. No way black holes are some kind of problem. They're not a GSP takedown. You're not constantly worried about them holding you down and keeping you there for eternity. They're more like a giant lake. Just don't drive into the lake.

 

[WTF2008]

Our so-called modern beliefs about science are based on what scientists have told us and/or figured out from the last 100 years or so.

Things that we take for granted today were thought to be impossible very recently.

Think about our science in another hundred years. You can't, and neither can the smartest person in the world today.

Now try to think about a world that has been technologically aware for thousands or hundreds of thousands of years with different natural resources and possibly bigger brains than anyone on earth.

We live in a universe so big and so old, that there might as well be infinite possibilities. We aren't really capable of thinking in the infinite, as much as super smart mathematicians would love to have you believe.

It's impossible for anyone living today to have any idea what is and isn't possible through technology or otherwise.

I don't doubt we got some stuff right. But I know for a fact that we don't have close to everything right.

 

[thetruth2709]

As always humans wanting to understand the universe from their limited human perspectives and rules

 

[Kick Strickland]

As always humans wanting to understand the universe from their limited human perspectives and rules

True. But does that mean we shouldn't at least TRY to understand it? Maybe we can comprehend more than we give ourselves credit for.

 

[JoeSchillaci]

You're basically talking about the Fermi Paradox. And there are many possible solutions to why we haven't come into contact with other "intelligent" life in the universe...

We live in a remote part of the Galaxy
Civilizations get wiped out before they have the tech to travel such vast distances
They are here; we just don't know it(different dimensions et al)
There's no reason for anyone to come here
life is scarce, even in something as big as the universe
A deity created the universe 6000 years ago, and life only exists on Earth

Have you ever considered implementing punctuation into what you write?

 

[Pugilistic]

As always humans wanting to understand the universe from their limited human perspectives and rules

Kind of hard for us to understand it from any other perspective since you know, we are human.

 

[AshiharaFan]

I have no doubt that there is life out there some where but I doubt the reason we haven't seen them is because of them running into black holes haha

You don't think black holes may be a problem for space travel? You could be traveling in deep space and by the time you realize you came to close to one it's too late, there's no escaping. Who's to say black holes aren't the reason that we've not been visited by intelligent beings from far, far away?

 

[Kick Strickland]

Have you ever considered implementing punctuation into what you write?

:icon_lol:

You don't think black holes may be a problem for space travel? You could be traveling in deep space and by the time you realize you came to close to one it's too late, there's no escaping. Who's to say black holes aren't the reason that we've not been visited by intelligent beings from far, far away?

And think about this: if you flew just a little too close to a black hole, it might seem like you flew by it at a normal rate of speed. But if you did get too close, after you pass it you might realize decades had passed for everyone not on your ship.

Maybe you flew a lil too close to the black hole, just barely skimming the edge of one, and when you get past it a few minutes later.... everybody you've ever known back on Earth has been dead and gone for decades!

 

[AshiharaFan]

A deity created the universe 6000 years ago, and life only exists on Earth

I knew it was just a matter of time before someone would come and steer the conversation into this direction.

I suppose that we are kind of stupid. We lust for money, treat each other like dirt, and need war to speed up technology. We certainly need to reflect on our progress thus far if we want to live up to our potential. There is a role for us in the heavens if we do not lose our way on the path to enlightenment.

Hell yeah Gene. I like the way you think.

if you go into a black hole you will get spaghettified

This. And it doesn't sound appetizing at all to me, it sounds horrendous.

Well, if you're intelligent enough to move through space at any speed...you're probably smart enough to avoid flying into the gravity well of a black hole.

Even you can't move at light speed, just surviving a long space flight would require impressive tech. No way black holes are some kind of problem. They're not a GSP takedown. You're not constantly worried about them holding you down and keeping you there for eternity. They're more like a giant lake. Just don't drive into the lake.

You might be right. Maybe there is an advanced race of beings that have figured out a way to give black holes the middle finger. But human beings haven't come close to doing this and, for now, will get spaghettified if they got too close to one.

Our so-called modern beliefs about science are based on what scientists have told us and/or figured out from the last 100 years or so.

Things that we take for granted today were thought to be impossible very recently.

Think about our science in another hundred years. You can't, and neither can the smartest person in the world today.

Now try to think about a world that has been technologically aware for thousands or hundreds of thousands of years with different natural resources and possibly bigger brains than anyone on earth.

We live in a universe so big and so old, that there might as well be infinite possibilities. We aren't really capable of thinking in the infinite, as much as super smart mathematicians would love to have you believe.

It's impossible for anyone living today to have any idea what is and isn't possible through technology or otherwise.

I don't doubt we got some stuff right. But I know for a fact that we don't have close to everything right.

Sounds about right to me. Good post WTF.

 

[A Pennysworth]

Don't let me leave, Murph.

Murph! Muurrph!!!

Pretty much all I remember from that movie is McConaughey screaming that over and over again

I watched that the other day. God what a clusterf***. So many ideas shoe horned into the movie that it lost all shape.