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BJJ vs. Sambo

Its silly to compare like that, much depends on your own abilites. BJJ is great and obviously so is sambo. .. BTW using Fedor as an example of someone who beat a BJJ guy is kinda silly, he also beats all Sambo guys :P
 
Depends on you. If BJJ works for you, do it. If Sambo is good for you, then do it. I do BJJ, but it looks like Sambo. I barley if ever armbar. Leglocks are what I do. I want to take Sambo, because I think it would suit me.
 
Suvorov said:
Well meaning post bro, but you should not have said that. Sambo guys pride themselves on their knowledge of the armbar and counters to it. They study it from all positions and how to defend it. They say that its one sub you should never give up if you are mentally in the match and actually consider it a great shame to loose by armbar.
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Sorry...I'm talking out of my ass......but my point was train in every grappling you can find.....train stand up .....train everything...it doesn't matter. For the most part the art won't fail you......you will fail you unless you train TMA :D
 
physicaltherapy said:
Sorry...I'm talking out of my ass......but my point was train in every grappling you can find.....train stand up .....train everything...it doesn't matter. For the most part the art won't fail you......you will fail you unless you train TMA :D
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No problems man. Did not mean to nitpick, you make a good point. I just felt like educating the forum a bit :wink:
 
Look into sub wrestling. I like it because to me the last thing i want in a fight is to get hurt, and second to last thing i want is for the cops to be involved. With subwrestling i feel you have better takedowns/defense than BJJ and it is more dominant as far as ground position goes(not talking about subs) so you can GnP someone. But also train your subs becuase otherwise you are not complete. Personaly i just feel sub wrestling is best for street than BJJ,dont know much about sambo, becuase once you break someones arm with a armbar cops are gonna be comming into the picture. Where as if you just sock em up a little bit cops probably wont be involved. Just my 2 cents.
 
Style vs Style BJJ is better, but for MMA Sambo, espeically combat sambo because it work on wrestling, striking and graphing, while BJJ just work on grahping.
 
physicaltherapy said:
It doesn't matter. There's inevitable crossover between both styles. I personally like BJJ's open attitude toward other styles. I'm learning BJJ right now but we have a little Erik Paulson influence...shootfighting....and my leg locks are great....in fact even better than my armbar (a BJJ basic). It all depends on the instructor. If he's open to many other techniques and he's not hung up on just teaching straight BJJ then you're good.

It all depends on you too....if you suck....well hey...you can't blame either art for that. if you're good...well you'll seek out new techniques on your own and learn to supplement your training.

You're talking about world class fighters....I can probabaly school some sambo guys and some sambo guys school me......you just have to think it's all grappling in the end....enough with this style vs style crap
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Agreed, plus if you think in terms of submission, how many more people has Nogueira submited than fedor? A lot more by far! So if you think about it a submission without a tap will do by far more damage than a knockout, I for example love gettin deeper into versed submissions, in which in my BJJ classes we learn a lot of legs lock as well!
 
I just saw that Fedor sambo video somebody posted here, and man, that stuff looks pretty mean. I like it. It was practically full blown MMA.
 
physicaltherapy said:
Yeah b/c wrestlers TRAIN LIKE ANIMALS.....they drill shit to DEATH......they don't even think about sprawling and shooting its hardwired.
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truth, but this is a mentality. you can apply this to whatever you train, though most learn this discipline through wrestling.

program yourself. it's what bruce lee's jeet kune do was aiming for.
 
tinker_190 said:
I just saw that Fedor sambo video somebody posted here, and man, that stuff looks pretty mean. I like it. It was practically full blown MMA.
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that's combat sambo. reg sambo isn't striking.
 
physicaltherapy said:
Yeah b/c wrestlers TRAIN LIKE ANIMALS.....they drill shit to DEATH......they don't even think about sprawling and shooting its hardwired.
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Are you saying that judoka and bjjers don't train like animals? If you want to be good you have to drill shit to death regardless of style.
 
the zinoviev fight was terrible, sperry was terrible at finishing and zinoviev was a strong guy with a good bridge, other than that the fight consisted of sperry taking down zinoviev, passing to mount and getting rolled.

Eventually zinoview got a the cut win.
 
Suvorov said:
Well meaning post bro, but you should not have said that. Sambo guys pride themselves on their knowledge of the armbar and counters to it. They study it from all positions and how to defend it. They say that its one sub you should never give up if you are mentally in the match and actually consider it a great shame to loose by armbar.
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I trained with this Russian dude who had the most amazing arm bar defence ever. He liked to roll to his back and bait the arm bar from mount so he could kick up pull his head in and then fall back to the strait ankle lock. He was a Bad ass.

I learned the most about arm bar defence from watching this guy. And now I'm a bitch to arm bar (it still happens occasionally though).

And just for the record... he was able to arm bar most all of the BJJ guys I was training with at the time pretty much at will.

The moral is Sambo knows arm locks.

As far as the original question, I'm suprised no one has said it yet... Who is the better quality teacher? Go check them both out, ask around about the instructors, come back here and see if anyone knows anything about the instuctors, then make a decision. Both arts are great.
 
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