BJJ grappling Khabib vs Gordon Ryan

I wonder who the real insecure person is who makes a thread about a fringe sport on an mma forum lol

what a combat sport where you need to restrict someone only to the ground with no striking lol

what happened to bjj being the best combat art form? Where are the bjj dominant champions? What happened to bjj being so great that you can beat anyone even when they are heavier than you?

Now what do we have? We have a bjj roided clown wanting to fight someone way smaller than them while not having any strikes or standing game

just lmfao

Take that up with the person who started the thread, not me...

All I'm saying is that your response was irrelevant to the thread topic...I'm not defending the thread topic as worthwhile or meaningful.

FWIW, your condescending perspective would apply to many other combat sports too, not just BJJ...like wrestling. Is wrestling a joke to you too, because there is no striking? And what about the striking-only sports, like muay thai and boxing? Would you say 'what a combat sport where you need to restrict someone only to standing with no grappling lol'...?

Yes, we all like MMA because it incorporates all of those elements...it's a 'real' as a combat sport can get. That doesn't mean that everything else is suddenly a joke and that we can't still appreciate other combat sports...it also doesn't mean we can't wonder how an elite MMA fighter might do against a specialist under one of those different rule sets.

You also embarrass yourself with your disrespectful, condescending words ("bjj roided clown"). Grow up a little.
 
Khabib vs Ryan would be a non-contest, but I think Khabib could absolutely hang with world-class submission grapplers, at least some of the time within an ADCC-type ruleset, largely off standing grappling, top control, and submission awareness:

Gordon himself said Luke Rockhold would do great at the highest levels of nogi submission grappling:

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To that end, I don't think Khabib subs any world-class guys, and might not beat them reliably...but I bet he could make the best ADCC guys at his weight work for it a little.
 
Gordon would murder Khabib, no way Khabib signs up for this fight.
 
Khabib vs Ryan would be a non-contest, but I think Khabib could absolutely hang with world-class submission grapplers, at least some of the time within an ADCC-type ruleset, largely off standing grappling, top control, and submission awareness:

Gordon himself said Luke Rockhold would do great at the highest levels of nogi submission grappling:

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To that end, I don't think Khabib subs any world-class guys, and might not beat them reliably...but I bet he could make the best ADCC guys at his weight work for it a little.

Before beating them to death in MMA. If khabib trained just bjj, he's ripping off limbs and beating people to death with the wet end.

Khabib bless
 
Anyone else would love to see this? I understand Gordon is the GOAT, but Khabib's mystical aura, rumors grappling and almost lifetime undefeated record in combat would make this a must-watch. I would pay top PPV dollars to see it, how about you bros? It's not that much of a fantasy matchup either since Khabib promised his mom he wouldn't fight MMA again. If there's enough fan interest in it, we can make it happen like Conor and Floyd. Let's go bros!
It wouldn't be competitive
 
If I was in to car racing and everybody was using Nos, damn I would think I need some Nos.
Same with BJJ, they don't have the testing of MMA so let's fucking juice up. Skills are still skills. I don't look down on Pride VS UFC because in Pride all of the top fighters was juiced up.
That's not the point. The point is that one guy is way bigger and he's juiced to the gills, meaning that he has a much much greater advantage. How does anyone expect the smaller, clean athlete to overcome this?
 
That's not the point. The point is that one guy is way bigger and he's juiced to the gills, meaning that he has a much much greater advantage. How does anyone expect the smaller, clean athlete to overcome this?
Well... Neither Gordon or Khabib have failed a test.
So you are saying that the guy with cardio for days are clean just because he is smaller?
Easy to scream Roids as an excuse.

Khabib would lose to Gordon because it's level to this shit. Weight classes is a thing for a reason.
 
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Khabib defats anybody in MMA at 155. He doesn’t defeat Swimmers at swimming, golfers at golfing or BJJ world champs at BJJ only matches but BJJ stars don’t always win in MMA because they have to deal with ground and pound and wrestling and straight up killers in stand up ,Khabib always does. There you go.
 
Well... Neither Gordon or Khabib have failed a test.
So you are saying that the guy with cardio for days are clean just because he is smaller?
Easy to scream Roids as an excuse.

Khabib would lose to Gordon because it's level to this shit. Weight classes is a thing for a reason.
Are you slow? I initially said that Gordon specializes in BJJ and he's significantly bigger. In other words, Khabib has zero advantage in that contest. If you honestly think that BJJ drug testing is anywhere near the level of the UFC you're delusional.
 
Anyone else would love to see this? I understand Gordon is the GOAT, but Khabib's mystical aura, rumors grappling and almost lifetime undefeated record in combat would make this a must-watch. I would pay top PPV dollars to see it, how about you bros? It's not that much of a fantasy matchup either since Khabib promised his mom he wouldn't fight MMA again. If there's enough fan interest in it, we can make it happen like Conor and Floyd. Let's go bros!

It wouldn't even be close. Gordon Ryan would destroy him.
 
The amount of cope from some of these posters.

"If they were the same size!1!!"

"NO ONE CARES ABOUT BJJ! FRINGE SPORT!"

"NOT A REAL FIGHT!"

Like, okay, we get it. This thread triggers you for some reason. Run along now, you insecure manchildren.

When is Ryan gonna do mma?

He's said he has considered it but respects the advice of his coach/mentor Danaher to continue focusing on dominating and advancing the sport of BJJ in the public spotlight. Last interview made it sound like he won't consider a transition to MMA until their collective outlook changes or someone else -- preferably from his training camp at New Wave -- ends up "taking up the proverbial reins" by achieving similar levels of success and stardom to what he's earned in BJJ.

This is a fighting forum. Who gives a fuck how much money he makes? Do you think he started BJJ to make money? He just lucked out that he makes more money than half of the UFC.

At the end of the day I guarantee he would trade all his money to be the champion of the UFC. Unfortunately for him he is the goat of a fringe sport that most people don't give a fuck about.

It's like a G-leaguer bragging about his MVP to an NBA player.

It's a UFC subforum of a martial arts forum. Important distinction. If you're triggered that the OP posted about a retired UFC fighter having a grappling match with a non-MMA fighter here instead of in Fantasy Match-ups or whatever, then take it up with them... but we get threads like this all the time to be frank.

And no, Gordon would not trade in his money and accolades to do any such thing. He loves what he's doing and is getting paid well to do it while sustaining minimal damage. "Luck" had fuck all to do with being the best at what he does.

Would Gordon take the match or is he still having tummy issues

I guess you missed him returning to dominate ADCC 2022 and recently appearing at UFC Fight Pass Invitational 3.

I personally think Khabib would do better than most people think he would. That positioning he brings is next level and could nulify Gordon’s offense……wood watch…..

Nah. Gordon's competed against legitimate Heavyweights, including dudes with solid Judo, Sambo, and collegiate wrestling pedigrees who are also world-class BJJ Black Belts in some cases. He still manages to sweep and submit them. He heel hooked Gabriel Gonzaga, kneebarred Aleksei Oleinik (back in 2019 when Oleinik was still somewhat relevant), triangled Josh Barnett and Bo Nickal off his back... the guy is on a different level.

The positional grappling prowess Khabib has shown against other guys in his weight class or even slightly larger wouldn't pan out against Gordon under this ruleset IMO.
 
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Khabib and Islam would both get submitted by Kade Ruotolo who's their size, let's not even talk about Gordon Ryan it would be a joke.

Khabib is great but these 8 second clips of them looking good vs Olympians yet we have never seen them in an actual wrestling match. These gym stories of them consistently tapping ADCC champions yet for whatever reason Khabib never competed in the ADCCs? Oh and apparently Khabib trains at a kickboxing academy but never loses rounds to elite strikers, coulda been a Glory champ if he wanted. I have begun to feel his camp is a little selective about matchmaking and has realized that promoting himself and his guys as unbeatable is a great tactic but it's begun to feel very manufactured to me.

This.
 
Sure, go the fight the best BJJ specialist in the world with 40 pounds disadvantage o_O, there is something called specialization, MMA guys are jack of all trades, master of none.
 
Ryan is much bigger and that's his sport, I'm assuming he wins pretty comfortably. Would rather see Khabib against someone his size
 
Ok, at this point I can see you are not being rational. Good luck with that…..


Three pillars? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Which UFC champion ever puts more than 5% effort into BJJ? some of you guys are living in the past

BJJ is irrelevant now.

Do you know of the legendary art form called thumb wrestling?

I wonder who would win in a thumb war? Thor or Gordon Ryan?

Why doesn't Thor train in a more refined fighting form like BJJ? Why would he when he makes millions teaching people how to get strong enough to thumb wrestle?

That's your argument in a nut shell. It's a shit one.
 
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