Media BISPING: Francis Ngannou BOXES AGAIN on December 23! | Is it Anthony Joshua or Deontay Wilder?

[m249viking]

I wonder why all top boxers are lining up to fight him now. Must be because nobody wants to see him fight...

. You’re off topic but I’ll answer your silly question, with how easy of a fight it is and the unsubstantiated hype of ridiculous pay of course they are.

 

[maximus__]

I mean it's a fact Fury under prepared for him. He'd literally signed beforehand to fight Usyk 2 months later and so clearly thought this would just be a cake walk.

IMO it's more that Francis actually has a chin and so could walk through Fury's shots to land his own. Fury and his team I guess hadn't really noticed that aspect of his game and so weren't prepared when Ngannou wasn't going down from the shots Fury landed and therefore actually making it into a fight. Francis Rocky'd Fury.

Ngannou will have succcess against any of the boxers who are relying on greater technique to beat him as he's got an iron chin and nuclear hands. Some will do better at outpointing him, but he'll probably always be able to cause problems against those guys. Nobody goes through a fight completely unscathed except in a quick KO.

That's why the Wilder fight's the most interesting as Wilder's crumpled everybody he's ever fought and every chin breaks eventually. Walking through what Wilder's throwing his way is a whole nother ball game.

His manager just came out with the following excuses:

They waited 45 mins for dancers to finish after warming up.
Going to the Champions dinner the night before.
It being very late at night.

Francis had to deal with the exact same thing. At this point just call it what it is.
The HW Boxing champ lost to a non boxer.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/2460...: "Some things people,"Maybe he's overdone it.

Fury has made a career out of being a big guy and being able to hang off his opponents and win rounds. Francis was his size, stronger and won whenever they went into the clinch.

Of course they underestimated Francis, but it's because they thought Fury was well prepared and would just do what he does to other boxers. Francis and Fury was signed prior to the Usyk fight.

 

[6 Pack Lapadat]

I can see Ngannou wearing Wilder out in the clinch. Joshua doesn't have an area like that where he's at a big disadvantage other than his chin.

I agree. Hoping to catch Joshua is too risky. Joshua will move away and steal rounds.
Wilder showed he gets worn down by a bigger stronger man in the clinch. And Fury got handled in the clinch by Ngannou.

Fury also has dropped and hurt Wilder. He couldn’t budge Ngannou (even with an elbow).

Even if Wilder hits harder, Francis having the better chin will make the difference. Plus his massive size and strength advantage.

I think they should target Wilder.

 

[Motivated BJ Penn]

. Your off topic but I’ll answer your silly question, with how easy of a fight it is and the unsubstantiated hype of ridiculous pay of course they are.

So you agree people do want to see him fight? The hype may be unsubstantiated (in your mind) or not, but it exists. Everyone wants to see if he can repeat that performance or he was just lucky

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

I agree. Hoping to catch Joshua is too risky. Joshua will move away and steal rounds.
Wilder showed he gets worn down by a bigger stronger man in the clinch. And Fury got handled in the clinch by Ngannou.

Fury also has dropped and hurt Wilder. He couldn’t budge Ngannou (even with an elbow).

Even if Wilder hits harder, Francis having the better chin will make the difference. Plus his massive size and strength advantage.

I think they should target Wilder.

just move away? he's going to have to engage sooner or later and that's when Ngannou will catch him. if Ngannou does what he did to Fury he can beat Joshua too especially if Ngannou goes to the body. Joshua is also the bigger name. risking a fight with Wilder who lost twice to Fury, has monstrous power and does not have the name recognition that Joshua has seems like a major step down compared to fighting Joshua who neither Fury or Wilder have fought.

 

[Wetarmpits]

You used "quite ironic" which automatically puts you high on the emotional scale. More so emotionally aggressive, since you attacked Fury for "resting up and healing".

It's his words. Only person overdramatic here is you. And it is quite ironic that they switched states. That's a pretty general expression to describe a change of planned event. Look it up in the dictionary.

I'm sorry for your loss, you seem to deal quite badly with the results of the fight. Bye.

 

[markg171]

Fury has made a career out of being a big guy and being able to hang off his opponents and win rounds. Francis was his size, stronger and won whenever they went into the clinch.

I have no idea why you guys keep lying about them being the same size. Any of one you would call this a size disparity in any other fight but are instead pretending Fury still clearly wasn't the bigger man like he always is.

Francis could succeed like he did because he has a retard level chin and built a gameplan around being able to take shots to land his own once Fury was out of position because Francis was surprisingly still standing there unaffected. Fury landed plenty of good shots that would've hurt someone else. Fury and his team were completely unprepared for Francis' chin, something that's only possible if they knew nothing about Francis as we've all been saying for years Francis has a great chin.

The rest are minimal to the impact Francis' chin had on the fight. Yes Francis was stronger. Yes he surprised Fury in the clinch (which again shouldn't have been a surprise against an MMA fighter if they'd bothered preparing). Nothing was more impactful than Fury not being prepared for Francis to be able to take whatever he threw at him to still be there to send it back against Fury's own far weaker chin. You could literally see it on his face the first time he caught Francis clean and Francis didn't even blink that Fury didn't know what to do if Francis actually could take all his shots just fine.

Of course they underestimated Francis, but it's because they thought Fury was well prepared and would just do what he does to other boxers. Francis and Fury was signed prior to the Usyk fight.

Uh no. You're missing the point entirely. They signed to fight Usyk while already signed to fight Francis, and for only 2 months later on top of that. The first is bad enough, but doing so for nearly immediately afterwards? What possible more of a sign could you want to show they were completely looking past him than they thought they could just fight 2 months later against their competitor for #1 HW?

In fact if anything they probably planned on using Ngannou as the beginning of their Usyk camp. Start the 3 month Usyk camp with a detour 4 weeks into it spar Ngannou for the easy paycheque. That makes way more sense than that they actually did a full Ngannou camp and then were planning to immediately pivot into only an 8 week camp for Usyk their hardest fight. Fury would be completely worn out by that and underprepared for Usyk, which is a terrible idea.

Or the easy and logical answer is that it's Ngannou that he was unprepared for as he hadn't.

 

[El Fernas]

AJ is definitely the easier fight imo. However, I heard Hearn on a podcast today saying that AJ will be ready to box around January of later. It has to be Wilder imo for his next opponent.

This might be a blessing in disguise for Ngannou, Wilder isnt as technical and might get caught with something, AJ would come with a plan similar to the Ruiz Jr rematch, not ideal imho.

 

[HHJ]

I saw he got an offfer,but I didnt hear he took it. He shouldnt fight again so soon.

 

[svmr_db]

Francis had to deal with the exact same thing. At this point just call it what it is.
The HW Boxing champ lost to a non boxer.

"Fury lost to a non boxer" lol you guys really get caught up in that knockdown huh? Boxing scoring is just math, stop being so emotional about it.

If you knew nothing about either fighter prior to watching it, and just looked at it as Fighter A Vs Fighter B, would you be so passionate to say that Ngannou definitely scored more points than Fury over the 10 rounds? I don't think you would.

 

[wolfss]

It’s gonna be Andy Ruiz. And he gonna get slept.

 

[CerebralKnievel]

He's had one pro fight in which he didn't win so why does he get a shot at the number 4 and 3 guy? Shouldn't he have to go up the rankings and well...and half the people celebrating this complain when the same thing happens in MMA.

Sounds like you never watch anything.

 

[AdamWarlock]

yes francis get that paycheck

 

[Crash-override]

Francis runs boxing now. He has put that sport on the map.

<Lmaoo>

 

[piropiro]

Only 4 names make sense now, with the current hype.

Joshua will duck, high risk low reward for him if he hopes for one last run at the belts.

Fury will duck, he got almost KOd and realized his power has no effect on Francis, squeaked by with a win and no need to take that risk again.

Jones has been ducking for a long time, nothing to discuss.

Wilder will be the next fight IMO.

 

[Tornikidou]

He's had one pro fight in which he didn't win so why does he get a shot at the number 4 and 3 guy? Shouldn't he have to go up the rankings and well...and half the people celebrating this complain when the same thing happens in MMA.

 

[Copper Burner]

It's his words. Only person overdramatic here is you. And it is quite ironic that they switched states. That's a pretty general expression to describe a change of planned event. Look it up in the dictionary.

I'm sorry for your loss, you seem to deal quite badly with the results of the fight. Bye.

You tried to paint a picture by saying "look at Francis, he is fighting on 12/23 while that big bag of milk needs to postpone his fight so he can rest up and heal like a poor baby".

Tyson's fight is far more important than Francis money grab. You just don't get it though.

Bye? Muhahahaha

 

[Cooliox]

That fury fight sold about 60k ppv, franks definitely not a side considering wilder-fury did around 800k

Source for PPV number for Fury - Ngannou?

There's only Meltzer guesswork going around.

Official numbers have not been released. Metlzer used some shitty algorithm in the past based on google search numbers etc to estimate ppv numbers.

Chael Sonnen once went on record to say that Meltzer was "way off" for the PPV that Chael actually got a part of (and hence knew the exact number)... which was against Anderson.

 

[Bubzeh]

Wilder will flatline him. Hoping it's made and we can stop worrying about boxing again.

 

[Hitdepruns]

This guy will make Boxing Great Again. Amazing! I feel so dumb for doubting this guy.