Biggest robbery? GSP/Hendricks or Jones/Reyes?

Looked defeated? So because GSP can be critical of himself, vs Jon who is a legitimate sociopath who will never think he's done wrong, that means Jon won? Georges had been saying for a while he was mentally burnt out, so it's not like he was gonna be thrilled coming out.


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Forgot about that. But I guess I meant a legit L and a not a DQ L.
 
I scored Jon in the Reyes fight no matter how many times I see it.. after round 2 Reyes is gassed and everything he throws is nearly blocked.. 345 Jon is more of the aggressor and controls center of the ring and landed more significant strikes .. It looks a lot closer than it was.. I keep rewatching this because I don't get what people are seeing..

Gsp vs hendricks was completely crazy and baffling hendricks did the most damage landed the most sig strikes and was the aggressor .. and caused gsp to retire out of fear of losing again.
 
Constantly proving how big brained he is by never being able to bring substantive arguments to any discussion, just his feelings on things, and then jumping immediately to wanting to fight people at the drop of a hat. Don't know how a guy lives a life like that without realizing he is the emotional one.

Everyone who disagrees with him and tells him obvious shit, like how dogfighting is animal abuse, he jumps straight to politics to write them off as some liberal bullshitter, as if any reasonably-minded conservatives wouldn't want to stomp his ass for his role in the dogfighting world.

Such big brain. Impressive intellect
Gsp hendricks or derrick lewis last fight...
 
Neither are robberies. You can use the term robbery for close fights like these. If it's debatable, it's not a robbery.
I thought both Gsp and Jones lost fights being discussed though.
 
Adding onto this, since I directly compared these 2 fights "as robberies" before in another thread, I'm just gonna pull the post from there::

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Could I have been thinking of GSP vs Hendricks?
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Hmm..?
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Nah, I am thinking of Jones-Reyes.

You wanna talk about close rounds? Which rounds went to Jon exactly, cuz I'm confused.
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I give Jon 2 rounds, but which 3rd should I give him? They all just look so delicious.

See, this is what a split looks like.
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Hmm, maybe the stats will clear things up.
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Yup, those definitely look like close rounds. Total strikes and attempetd volume vs significant strikes are similar or flipped, control time with takedowns split attention. Makes sense.

Ok, so we can identify close rounds. Let's see the close rounds with Jones
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You see in the first 3 rounds, the significant strikes are all so clo..
DOM +6
DOM +11
DOM +7

..wait no. Well, even if the significant strikes have a wide margin, I'm sure the total strikes and attempted volume must have made up the diff..
DOM +6 / +32
DOM +11 / +31
DOM +7 / +11

..oh no. I mean, where the strikes land is important too, so maybe Dom was just doing legwork while Jon surpassed him in combined head & body strikes to close the ga-
DOM +11
DOM +10
DOM +8

shit.. Well, Jon is one of the best wrestlers in MMA, I'm sure his successful takedowns and control time stole some ro-
JON 0/2 0 sec
JON 0/0 0 sec
JON 0/2 15 sec

... Oh... Well, there's always a difference of power and clean connections. Maybe the biggest moments of the rounds were Jones'? If you take a look at the UFC's post-round highlights in round 3, I'm sure we'll fin-
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Ah.. yeah, no. I don't think there's much of an argument that Jones should have won.
Jesus christ. Hell of a post. Thanks sherbo.
 
Jones vs Reyes easily. GSP vs Hendricks wasn't even a robbery, it was just an insanely close fight. It had toss-up rounds, which meant it was always gonna be more tricky to score. Jones vs Reyes rounds 1 through 3 were all quite clearly Reyes rounds. 4 and 5 were clearly Jones rounds. There weren't any insanely close rounds that I felt could have gone either way in that fight, and so I think that justifies being labelled as a robbery. A super close fight that has toss-up rounds can't really be called a robbery.
 
Looked defeated? So because GSP can be critical of himself, vs Jon who is a legitimate sociopath who will never think he's done wrong, that means Jon won? Georges had been saying for a while he was mentally burnt out, so it's not like he was gonna be thrilled coming out.
I'm not comparing Jon to GSP after those fights. I'm saying I think the biggest robbery between the two was Johnny being robbed of the win against GSP.

& yes GSP looked not only defeated, but he was beat up. You can make excuses that he was burnt out & didn't want to fight, but he has stated many times he never likes to fight, so his attitude & body language wasn't because he didn't want to fight or that he was burnt out. It was because he was defeated & knew it.
 
Adding onto this, since I directly compared these 2 fights "as robberies" before in another thread, I'm just gonna pull the post from there::

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Could I have been thinking of GSP vs Hendricks?
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Hmm..?
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Nah, I am thinking of Jones-Reyes.

You wanna talk about close rounds? Which rounds went to Jon exactly, cuz I'm confused.
znmdLPU.png

I give Jon 2 rounds, but which 3rd should I give him? They all just look so delicious.

See, this is what a split looks like.
4VkG2zD.png


Hmm, maybe the stats will clear things up.
E4Pjche.png

Yup, those definitely look like close rounds. Total strikes and attempetd volume vs significant strikes are similar or flipped, control time with takedowns split attention. Makes sense.

Ok, so we can identify close rounds. Let's see the close rounds with Jones
4S1Ce7o.png

You see in the first 3 rounds, the significant strikes are all so clo..
DOM +6
DOM +11
DOM +7

..wait no. Well, even if the significant strikes have a wide margin, I'm sure the total strikes and attempted volume must have made up the diff..
DOM +6 / +32
DOM +11 / +31
DOM +7 / +11

..oh no. I mean, where the strikes land is important too, so maybe Dom was just doing legwork while Jon surpassed him in combined head & body strikes to close the ga-
DOM +11
DOM +10
DOM +8

shit.. Well, Jon is one of the best wrestlers in MMA, I'm sure his successful takedowns and control time stole some ro-
JON 0/2 0 sec
JON 0/0 0 sec
JON 0/2 15 sec

... Oh... Well, there's always a difference of power and clean connections. Maybe the biggest moments of the rounds were Jones'? If you take a look at the UFC's post-round highlights in round 3, I'm sure we'll fin-
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Ah.. yeah, no. I don't think there's much of an argument that Jones should have won.

you win 30 - 27 vs Jones nuthuggers.... literally 10-7 every round
 
I'm not comparing Jon to GSP after those fights. I'm saying I think the biggest robbery between the two was Johnny being robbed of the win against GSP.

& yes GSP looked not only defeated, but he was beat up. You can make excuses that he was burnt out & didn't want to fight, but he has stated many times he never likes to fight, so his attitude & body language wasn't because he didn't want to fight or that he was burnt out. It was because he was defeated & knew it.
It was because he was unsure if he won. You're just going places with what GSP was feeling because of how Hendricks and his ridiculous corner acted.

He looked tired and uncertain. It literally hinges on round 1. Round 1 was close and literally 99 percent of people who say Hendricks was robbed, can't even explain why he unquestionably deserved round 1.
 
It was because he was unsure if he won. You're just going places with what GSP was feeling because of how Hendricks and his ridiculous corner acted.

He looked tired and uncertain. It literally hinges on round 1. Round 1 was close and literally 99 percent of people who say Hendricks was robbed, can't even explain why he unquestionably deserved round 1.
It's been some time since re-watching the GSP/Hendricks fight so I would have to go back a re-watch it again to have this debate, but I do remember Johnny winning 3 maybe 4 rounds of that fight. I'm not gonna get specific because it has been a few years since rewatching that fight, but when I have time I'll watch the fight again & reply lol so to be continued...
 
It's been some time since re-watching the GSP/Hendricks fight so I would have to go back a re-watch it again to have this debate, but I do remember Johnny winning 3 maybe 4 rounds of that fight. I'm not gonna get specific because it has been a few years since rewatching that fight, but when I have time I'll watch the fight again & reply lol so to be continued...
It's pretty much the consensus that there are no 10-8 rounds, Hendricks won rounds 2 and 4, GSP 3 and 5.

It hinges on round 1. That's it. It was a close round. The judges also saw rounds 2 through 5 the same.

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