Biggest robbery? GSP/Hendricks or Jones/Reyes?

IronGolem007 said:
Disagree.

I've watched Jones-Reyes, probably five times (GSP/Hendricks, maybe three times).

In GSP/Hendricks, Hendricks was the stronger, more confident, more devastating man. GSP was busted-up, outgunned, etc. and "tactically-tried to be impressive" for the judges. But anyone could see, Hendricks was the stronger, more confident man.

In the Jones/Reyes fight, it was exactly the opposite: Reyes had a lot of "initial energy and momentum," but ultimately Jones was the stronger, more confident man.

Reyes had a lot of "youthful energy," early. He was the star on the rise, and he came at Jones hard — but he actually didn't do much.

Jones was a bit rusty, and it took him a while to get into the groove.
(Meanwhile, Reyes was WASTING A LOT OF ENERGY, burning himself out, with flailing but not very effective efforts.)

By mid-3rd round, Jones had warmed up and was hunting the fading/failing SCARED Reyes.

Jones was the lion, Reyes was the kill. (It was only the fact Reyes was saved by the 5th-round bell which prevented the actual kill.)

If you rewatch both fights, you will go away thinking Hendricks was the better man against GSP, because GSP was relieved the fight was over, while Hendricks was pissed the fight was over. (That tells anyone with a brain Hendricks was the better man.)

In the Jones/Reyes fight, it was Reyes who was relieved the fight was over, while Jones was hunting him down trying to kill him. That should tell anyone with a brain, Jones was the better man in that fight.

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Hendricks was gassed as hell in the 5th round and GSP won that round pretty clearly because of that. I don’t think Hendricks wanted more rounds lol
 
The-AxeMurderer said:
Dunno how anyone can argue rounds 1, 2, and 3 were clearly Reyes rounds.

GSP got 2 rounds clear, Johny got 2 rounds clear.

Rounds 1 was actually pretty close.

If GSP lost i wouldn't cry robbery.

Johny only has himself to blame for letting his foot off the gas in the last round.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^ All of this
 
samoajoe said:
My favorite part that everyone leaves out.

Hendricks was 100% blown up, had the fight continued GSP gets the finish at some point.
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And it’s not like Hendricks hasn’t gassed in fights before and after this fight. He barely made it passed Condit because he gassed in the 3rd. Looked rough in the last 2 rounds vs Lawler in their second fight which cost him that fight.
 
IronGolem007 said:
Disagree.

I've watched Jones-Reyes, probably five times (GSP/Hendricks, maybe three times).

In GSP/Hendricks, Hendricks was the stronger, more confident, more devastating man. GSP was busted-up, outgunned, etc. and "tactically-tried to be impressive" for the judges. But anyone could see, Hendricks was the stronger, more confident man.

In the Jones/Reyes fight, it was exactly the opposite: Reyes had a lot of "initial energy and momentum," but ultimately Jones was the stronger, more confident man.

Reyes had a lot of "youthful energy," early. He was the star on the rise, and he came at Jones hard — but he actually didn't do much.

Jones was a bit rusty, and it took him a while to get into the groove.
(Meanwhile, Reyes was WASTING A LOT OF ENERGY, burning himself out, with flailing but not very effective efforts.)

By mid-3rd round, Jones had warmed up and was hunting the fading/failing SCARED Reyes.

Jones was the lion, Reyes was the kill. (It was only the fact Reyes was saved by the 5th-round bell which prevented the actual kill.)

If you rewatch both fights, you will go away thinking Hendricks was the better man against GSP, because GSP was relieved the fight was over, while Hendricks was pissed the fight was over. (That tells anyone with a brain Hendricks was the better man.)

In the Jones/Reyes fight, it was Reyes who was relieved the fight was over, while Jones was hunting him down trying to kill him. That should tell anyone with a brain, Jones was the better man in that fight.

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Okay bro go get your tapout shirt from the dryer
 
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Mohawk Banditó said:
Not only are you not doing round by round scoring, your only point is giving strike accuracy? Ya know, that metric that isn't part of judging at all? And as a matter of fact, is usually scored in the opposite direction because attempted strikes are notoriously scored as aggression?

Brilliant as always
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even if i score it round by round haters wont still agree
just giving statistical facts

FACTS
because facts doesnt care about your feelings or opinion
you should blame FACTS sir
 
dipstickjimmy said:
Easy answer:
GSP 2 clear rounds, Johnny 2 clear rounds and 1 razor close round. Its not even a robbery.

Reyes 1,2 & 3 clear as day. Jon 4 & 5 clear as day. Actual robbery.
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I watched and scored the Jones vs Reyes and had Jones winning... Not sure how people are scoring fights just based off there own opinions
 
Lee Danger said:
BS
A robbery is a robbery: if you steal me only 10 bucks is it fine?
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His point is close fights have different opinions on who won which makes it controversial. Robberies aren’t really controversial because of who people thought won the fight, its controversial because the vast majority agree it was a BS decision.
 
cburm said:
I watched and scored the Jones vs Reyes and had Jones winning... Not sure how people are scoring fights just based off there own opinions
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How did you score it for Jones specifically?
1st has to go to Reyes. I have yet to hear anyone argue the first went to Jon. If you gave Reyes the first he outstruck Jon worse in the 2nd and also in the 3rd and there was no grappling so striking has to be the scoring criteria. 2nd & 3rd have to go to Reyes.

48-47 Reyes seems very clear to me. I would love to know what rounds you scored for Jon? I assume the 4th and 5th but if you gave him any of the first 3 I would love to hear how and why you justify scoring for Jon.
 
Reyes was robbed of a W and being the first to put an L on the so-called goat's resume.

Gift decision for jj
 
Johnny vs GSP.

GSP looked so defeated after their fight before the decision. He thought he was dethroned.
 
KO Shotz said:
Johnny vs GSP.

GSP looked so defeated after their fight before the decision. He thought he was dethroned.
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Looked defeated? So because GSP can be critical of himself, vs Jon who is a legitimate sociopath who will never think he's done wrong, that means Jon won? Georges had been saying for a while he was mentally burnt out, so it's not like he was gonna be thrilled coming out.

GordoBarraBJJ said:
Reyes was robbed of a W and being the first to put an L on the so-called goat's resume.
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Lee Danger said:
BS
A robbery is a robbery: if you steal me only 10 bucks is it fine?
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No stealing is not fine. No one at any point claimed stealing was fine.

Saying a close fight that could have gone either way isn't a robbery is in fact, not a robbery.

There's dozens of fights that are more controversial than either of these fights.

Robbie Lawler vs Carlos Condit is a much worse decision than either of these fights.
 
KO Shotz said:
Johnny vs GSP.

GSP looked so defeated after their fight before the decision. He thought he was dethroned.
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He looked unsure if he won, which was a fair way to think in a close fight. The difference is Hendricks and his cornermen are fucking derps to the highest degree celebrating like they obviously won when it clearly came down to round 1 lol. Possibly one of the biggest fumbles in MMA history. Literally gives the fight away in round 5.
 
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