Bigfoot. Is it possible they exist?

[Bald1]

Cool thread. I'm in the believe it when I see it camp, but want to comment on a few things.

The people saying that all parts of the US have been explored may be correct, but I read something to the contrary just a little while ago. If I find it I'll post it up. This is definitely not the case for Canada though.

There was a question asking why there wasn't footage of the beast now that everyone has a cell phone. Apparently there is less back woods traffic by people now than even a hundred years ago. So whIle our population has grown, there are fewer people spending day in and day out in the bush to film these potential encounters. The lack of footage would be damning evidence if the sightings were reported in Central Park as opposed to the middle of nowhere.

 

[10mm]

Nope. BF is BS. No proof...ever!. everyone has video camera on their phone. We still get nothing.

 

[BearGrounds]

yeah but I'm not typing it up - basically because these threads become a pat myself on the back because I look down on others. Not wasting my time anymore (same with the paranormal threads).

So yeah, I guess if it exists then a sad smelly, blurry ape is out there.

People who are the pat themselves on the back type are the type that need pats on the back. I wouldn't sweat em. Majority of people ITT have been chill. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Mr Jay]

Nobody claimed that Sasquatch is only in the USA. You're pulling at straws here. One guy mentioned the USA he never said Sasquatches are only in the USA. Maybe you joined the thread late but China, Australia, USA and Canada have been discussed, I also mentioned Bhutan. Nobody is talking ahit about Canada, the dude just mentioned thre usa. If you want to fight with people come on over to the war room. Let's talk about bigfoots here!!!

If most or all of the sighting reports came out of Canada, or Africa, or South America, then I'd be more open to the possibility.

I'm not sure who didn't read the thread here, Gasm or you. Because he's questioning where sightings are coming from, and you seem to have ignored his post so...

 

[Mr Jay]

I don't know what you think I'm ignoring, as I'm trying to answer a million different people directly calling me out. So sorry if I miss anything.

These areas aren't as empty as you think. This is 2015, there's not much out there that we don't know about anymore. .

Except the part where there is actually quite a bit of Canada which has never had people walk across it on foot. I'm not saying Bigfoot is, to this day, hiding in that region of Canada. I'm just trying to dispel this weird notion people have where apparently every square inch has been explored when surprisingly, it hasn't.

 

[BearGrounds]

To give folks an idea of how much forest land in the US goes unfrequented by man:

"Congress has now designated more than 106 million acres of federal public lands as wilderness: 44 million of these acres are in 47 parks and total 53 percent of National Park System lands. Additional national park areas are managed as “recommended” or "proposed" wilderness until Congress acts on their status."

http://wilderness.nps.gov/faqnew.cfm

 

[Mr Jay]

No reasons yet ? Dodge noted.

Roadking man'd up and owned his position, that's respectable. What exactly are you doing? Still here arguing that something you absolutely dont believe has a great chance of being so? You make a decent point about remoteness, and instead of leaving it there ,decide to go on some Aspergers'esq tangent about bigfoot being Canadian. You're obviously too emotionally invested to hear any criticism and and then respond with any sort of cogent argument.

Did I call anyone any names? Disparage their mothers? You got your ass on your shoulders with me initially and you're still going, each post a little more whiney than the last. Cry more!

And yes ...it is hilarious, a literate first world adult seriously entertaining your silly opinion. Absolutely great stuff!

Is this directed to me?? Or... what?

I'm going to assume this is directed at me, because your teary eyed post followed up after my last one. I've noticed you stop quoting me though, and at this point you seem to be arguing with anyone so you should probably use the quote button, unless you just want to avoid me completely.

Considering some of the earliest Bigfoot sightings came from Canada, I'm not making a big leap here in saying that Sasquatch could be Canadian. But, again, you're just looking for an argument and apparently that logic is "Aspergers'esq". Totally silly, a real stretch, I know... Are you sure you're a literate adult? Or are you just getting angry at seeing words on the screen?

Yeesh, speaking of crying. You're now to the point where you're trying to argue how right I am. It's nice to see that you're coming around to the fact that what I said wasn't wrong.

 

[DoomPatrol]

To give folks an idea of how much forest land in the US goes unfrequented by man:

"Congress has now designated more than 106 million acres of federal public lands as wilderness: 44 million of these acres are in 47 parks and total 53 percent of National Park System lands. Additional national park areas are managed as “recommended” or "proposed" wilderness until Congress acts on their status."

http://wilderness.nps.gov/faqnew.cfm

That doesn't make them unexplored. That just means they are designated as wilderness.

 

[BearGrounds]

That doesn't make them unexplored. That just means they are designated as wilderness.

I wrote unfrequented.

 

[minute bull]

What exactly is a hectare?

 

[Cuzcatlan]

I wasn't trying to insult you. And you don't need to be an expert in prehistoric zoology to understand that the fossil record is incredibly sparse. Let me just ask you a quick question and you can deduce what you will from it.

Depending on who you ask, the oldest modern human skeletal remains date to about 180k years ago. Just assume that is fact, certain people would argue around 220k, some 150ish...not the point in specificity.

What do you think this says about the age of modern homo sapien sapiens...human beings given a shave and a suit would look and have the same faculties as you and I? Some people might say that means modern man is 180k years old. In fact, that is what modern science would say. It's quite possible, that given the sparse nature of the fossil record regarding human remains the further back you go, that human beings are much, much older than that, into the hundreds of thousands of years older in fact. We can't be certain in any way, especially when you consider what it takes to create a fossil and the extraordinary circumstance involved in allowing something to survive for any length of time through the 1000's of intervening years.

The point is, the fossil record is extremely sparse and what can be deduced from said fossils is extremely limited in many ways. Prior to the end of the last ice age, many large animals were worldwide...North America looked like the African Savannah of today.

How do you know that North America look like the African savanna?

Spoiler

Fossil records!

Spoiler

Funny how that works, huh?

 

[Iroh]

What exactly is a hectare?

328 by 328 feet square surface

 

[Mr Jay]

No apologies neccesar


No apology needed ma

No apology needed man . I can appreciate curious speculation as much as the next guy , and I'm sure that's what most are doing in this thread. Its just a little hard to take the guy seriously when he turns his nose up at what is justifiably cited by skeptics.......an almost complete lack of proof . What's the point in debating with someone when their only tactic consist of " yeah , well you can't use that reason.....its stupid" . That's how an ignorant ham wristed blowhard attempts to control a conversation 101.

Man, is your underwear in a bunch in this thread. Let me reiterate to you why I thought Jgarner's comments were wrong. First of all, he called anyone who thinks Bigfoot could possibly exist retarded and among some reasons which are legitimate, he mentioned these 2:

1) they don't exist because Native Americans, Frontiersman and Hunters haven't killed one yet and if they did, someone would have Bigfoots bones or pelts around. I mentioned how this doesn't make any sense, because there are tons of Native Americans, Frontiersman and Hunters who strongly believe Bigfoot exists and part of his legend is because they couldn't find/kill Bigfoot. They believe he exists because of the noises they heard, or because of huge tracks they found, because of strange encounters they had, etc. It doesn't make much sense to say "They don't exist, just ask the Native Americans, Frontiersman, Hunters" when those same groups have been very vocal in them believing Sasquatch does exist. He also tasked people to provide DNA evidence through bones/pelts/ shit on the forest floor, etc. which is a ridiculous thing to ask people, especially when it concerns an animal which is legendary for it's elusiveness.

2) He keeps mentioning that Bigfoot couldn't exist in the US because it's a developed country and it has been completely explored. He also made the leap that Bigfoot couldn't be in North America, because North America is completely explored. I already pointed out to you both how Canada is a developed nation, about 9.85 million km2 in size, where most of the population lives in urban areas, leaving approximately 7 million Canadians spread out across 9.85 million km2. I have also pointed out, factually, with a source, claiming that there is a large part of Canada which has never had any recorded humans who walked across it. Some people say we essentially have an area the size of India in Canada that has never had humans walk across it. That's a pretty big area to be unexplored. And no, Satellites and helicopter rides don't really count as exploration.

You're getting so frothy mouthed it's sad at this point. Feel free to reply and tell me how right I am again, though. That was nice.

 

[Deleted member 409801]

Is this directed to me?? Or... what?

I'm going to assume this is directed at me, because your teary eyed post followed up after my last one. I've noticed you stop quoting me though, and at this point you seem to be arguing with anyone so you should probably use the quote button, unless you just want to avoid me completely.

Considering some of the earliest Bigfoot sightings came from Canada, I'm not making a big leap here in saying that Sasquatch could be Canadian. But, again, you're just looking for an argument and apparently that logic is "Aspergers'esq". Totally silly, a real stretch, I know... Are you sure you're a literate adult? Or are you just getting angry at seeing words on the screen?

Yeesh, speaking of crying. You're now to the point where you're trying to argue how right I am. It's nice to see that you're coming around to the fact that what I said wasn't wrong.

Back again huh ya twink? Nothing that sniveling wall of shit that requires a response . Your previous work in this thread is more a testament to your intellectual impairment than I could hope to convey with a few dig quips' anyhow.


Ps : Did you catch that mermaid " body found " special on Discovery the other day? Probably something you'd take an interest in. I hear its legit

 

[Mr Jay]

Back again huh ya twink? Nothing that sniveling wall of shit that requires a response . Your previous work in this thread is more a testament to your intellectual impairment than I could hope to convey with a few dig quips' anyhow.


Ps : Did you catch that mermaid " body found " special on Discovery the other? Probably something you'd take an interest in. I hear its legit

There it is! The name calling didn't take long. It's the classic response for someone who realizes they're wrong and can't admit it.

It's my favorite kind of response.

 

[andnowweknow]

How do you know that North America look like the African savanna?

Spoiler

Fossil records!

Spoiler

Funny how that works, huh?

It's still a wildly incomplete record of animal species, numbers, etc...

Did you miss the entire point of my human fossil anecdote/line?

It bugs me having to disagree with a gunner. It really does...

 

[RoadKing Custom]

What exactly is a hectare?

You of all posters should know he's a landscaper..

 

[minute bull]

I prefer Master of the Custodial Arts, thank you very much.

 

[RoadKing Custom]

To give folks an idea of how much forest land in the US goes unfrequented by man:

"Congress has now designated more than 106 million acres of federal public lands as wilderness: 44 million of these acres are in 47 parks and total 53 percent of National Park System lands. Additional national park areas are managed as “recommended” or "proposed" wilderness until Congress acts on their status."

http://wilderness.nps.gov/faqnew.cfm

That doesn't make them unexplored. That just means they are designated as wilderness.

I wrote unfrequented.

Call it "unfrequented" or "unexplored" or "explored"... this is one Wilderness Area in one state. There is simply to much ground to cover to understand what really goes on out there.

 

[Deleted member 409801]

There it is! The name calling didn't take long. It's the classic response for someone who realizes they're wrong and can't admit it.

It's my favorite kind of response.

Nice poor little victim bitch response! Go back and read the thread , you started in first with the " youre not very good at this are you" , " reading is tough for you huh " ECT . How do you expect the conversation to go after you start with that snippy shit? Youve junked up this thread enough with your estrogen laden walls of text. We can take it PM if you'd like to continue .