Betting Odds for Makhachev vs Hooker

[Masturbin]

His training camp was in his living room.

He should get a bigger living room then

 

[Ackmed]

All the people pissed Islam is so high in the rankings when he's the favorite over so many LW's in the top 10. They should move up fighters in the ranking like they did with Islam more often.

Exactly, the same guys who say "Islam should be ranked lower, he hasn't beaten anyone in the top 10!" also say "Stylistically Islam is favored because such-and-such top 10 opponent is a striker"

These haters think Islam should be ranked lower than guys that he's expected to beat LOL

 

[Ackmed]

It's moved even a bit more in Islam's favor since the OP, one site has him as high as -800 and the lowest is -500



Islam = Betting favorite against any LW on the roster

 

[fortheo]

I knew Islam would be the favorite but wow he's a 5:1 or more on some sites.

I can't see any other LW being such a strong favorite against Hooker - even if Oliveira, Chandler (rematch), Gaethje or Dustin were fighting Hooker I can see them being a -200 maybe even -300 favorite at but not in the -500 to -600 range like Islam.

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They must have watched Hooker get outgrappled by maxime blanco and jason knight. On paper, this is one of the easiest fights in the top 10 for Islam.

 

[fortheo]

Hooker is a tougher matchup, surprised RDA was given better odds since wrestlers have always been his kryptonite.

Hooker at least has the power in his hands, and step-in knee, to put Islam out.

RDA's grappling is several levels above Hooker's and he doesn't gas, that's why. RDA might get controlled by the best wrestlers, but they don't really get much off on him other than control time because RDA is very high level on the mat. Hooker, on the other hand, is mediocre on the mat and will have his defense cut through like butter if the fight goes to the ground.

 

[moosaev]

Oliveira vs Islam or Chandler vs Islam would be the closest lines. I think Islam would handle Poirier.

Imo, Chandler doesn’t have a chance in hell against Islam. He gasses and wilts, coupled with Islam’s length and ground game, bad matchup

 

[Cowboy Kurt Angle]

Makes sense

 

[RockyLockridge]

Who else on the roster do you think would be such a huge favorite against Hooker?

no one, but i think this type of chain grappling is bad for hookers health in particular.

the top of the lw division is gaethje, porier, chandler, conor, dariush. I wouldn't say any of them use grappling as their primary gameplan even oliveria likes to strike quite a bit and doesn't go for takedowns as quick or as often as islam.

It doesn't surprise me islam is the biggest favourite at lw over hooker. There is no worse matchup for him

 

[Deleted member 510399]

If you're going to bet on Hooker, wait until his KO prop comes out closer to the fight, you'll get even better odds.

There's no way he wins a decision here(Hooker). Rd1/2 KO or bust.

 

[HeffDoesWant]

Put $50 on Hooker at +450.

Worth the risk imo.

3 rounds, I can see a decision so would want +525 or so for the ko.

 

[Iroh]

Exactly, the same guys who say "Islam should be ranked lower, he hasn't beaten anyone in the top 10!" also say "Stylistically Islam is favored because such-and-such top 10 opponent is a striker"

These haters think Islam should be ranked lower than guys that he's expected to beat LOL

I personally don't really give much of a crap about rankings, so I don't care where he is ranked. But rankings should be made conform consistent criteria, like based on accomplishments of a fighter. So even though Islam might be favored over other higher ranked fighters doesn't mean he also should be ranked higher, if he hasn't actually beaten higher ranked guys.

Being ranked higher doesn't mean you're automatically better than those who are ranked lower, although that is obv. often the case, it just means you have racked up more 'points' by beating higher ranked dudes, which moved you up the ladder. The ranking is not necessarily a reflection of the skills of the fighter.

 

[Franklin U.]

Yeah the circumstances add a bit, but even in similar circumstances I cant see anyone else being such a favorite against Hooker...maybe -300 at the highest levels.

Hooker overrated and it's now ubiquitous. Under these circumstances, charloO, Dp and Beneil would be bigger favorites than u think. Although - maybe not the lofty numbers we're seeing now with Islam. This fight really doesn't intrigue me as Islam will walk through a top 15 ( imo) lw .
It was interesting that he balked at idea of fighting Dariush( at least right now and who knows if Beneil would've accepted).

Islam " looks" to be the goods but really want him to face one of those 3 or if Justin runs through chandler( if).

Right now- Vegas might just view islam as the top 155er but that doesn't mean he is.

 

[A-ZIK]

Dan is clearly better in the striking dept. but Islam's trips could be the best in the division. Hookers takedown defense is very good at 80% and we know city kickboxing is elite at playing this game ala Adasnya vs Brunson, Vetori, Kelvin.
Hooker has fought far better competition than Thiago Moses (60% TD defense) and Drew Dober (55% TD defense).

These lines should be closer in my opinion.

That TDD statistics is bullshit. I remember when Barboza has same TDD % before Khabib fight. Hooker never fight Vs elite wrestler (expect Chandler) that's why his TDD percent is so high.

 

[Ackmed]

But rankings should be made conform consistent criteria, like based on accomplishments of a fighter. So even though Islam might be favored over other higher ranked fighters doesn't mean he also should be ranked higher, if he hasn't actually beaten higher ranked guys

I partially agree, except it shouldn't only be based on who you beat, but how you beat them. For ex beating #15'ish guys like Dober and Moises while making it look easy and barely getting touched can do more for one's ranking than winning split decision close all-out fights against guys ranked around #5-10.

 

[huhwhat]

makes sense
lucky punch is the only way hooker can get the W
and if hooker can get a lucky punch his fans and media will say that hooker is a better fighter lol

 

[GordonMMARamsey]

So you're saying there's a chance?

 

[Iroh]

I partially agree, except it shouldn't only be based on who you beat, but how you beat them. For ex beating #15'ish guys like Dober and Moises while making it look easy and barely getting touched can do more for one's ranking than winning split decision close all-out fights against guys ranked around #5-10.

Yeah, I agree. You could also award points for the manner in which the fighter won.

But in reality there is no real clear system in place and there is a lot of fuckery going on with them, so I don't even bother with them really.

 

[yougetKTFO]

Yeah that's a value bet I won't be passi g up. Wrong more often than right on these but when you only gotta hit one in four it's hard to pass up.

 

[SalvadorAllende]

Hooker is a tougher matchup, surprised RDA was given better odds since wrestlers have always been his kryptonite.

Hooker at least has the power in his hands, and step-in knee, to put Islam out.

RDA is a great grappler but he was just outsized and outmuscled at WW.

Only person to grapplefuck him at LW was Khabib and Islam is no Khabib.