best wrestlers (in the world) are gonna get beat in Future UFC/MMA WRESTLING IS NOT BEST MMA BASE

[Erratic]

I went up against thousands of excellent wrestlers over my decades in MMA

I have 3 losses and not a single one has been to a wrestler

 

[Jojomojo]

I converted pure wrestlers from my highschool wrestling programs and recruited from wrestling tournaments [where my wrestling team was competing] to MMA for decades and went up against thousands of excellent wrestlers over my decades in MMA, they are 75% of who showed up to my gym, My respondents were 75% wrestlers and 10% BJJ, the rest were strikers

I have 3 losses and not a single one has been to a wrestler

I am a wrestler, I competed as a youth in freestyle and greco until moving to the USA where I wrestled in highschool eventually taking over my old highschool team

Funny how you edited this to let it sound more credential since the first version was just repeating the exact same words (how to spot a lie!)
So how about you name some of those high level wrestlers you converted into MMA and how have they done?
You went up against thousands of wrestlers? In sparring? Or are you seriously gonna sell anybody here that you have over a thousand fights?

I mean you should seriously consider stopping this nonsense. People might get really offended by this claims. Like people who have dedicated their lives to this sport and really helped developing MMA in the early days.

 

[Erratic]

Funny how you edited this to let it sound more credential since the first version was just repeating the exact same words (how to spot a lie!)
So how about you name some of those high level wrestlers you converted into MMA and how have they done?
You went up against thousands of wrestlers? In sparring? Or are you seriously gonna sell anybody here that you have over a thousand fights?

I mean you should seriously consider stopping this nonsense. People might get really offended by this claims. Like people who have dedicated their lives to this sport and really helped developing MMA in the early days.

He has given no names, and he said he went up against thousands of 'excellent wrestlers' over the decades LOOOL

This has to be the biggest troll known to man or some CTE riddled delusion of a grandious scale. Even the biggest and best olympic gods of wrestling have lost to people in practice (obviously) that goes without saying, practice is practice.. but this guy would pretend no one has given him issues.. and the odds of this guy training with thousands of excellent wrestlers is slim to none.

This is the best and worst thread in Sherdog history

 

[Jojomojo]

He has given no names, and he said he went up against thousands of 'excellent wrestlers' over the decades LOOOL

This has to be the biggest troll known to man or some CTE riddled delusion of a grandious scale. Even the biggest and best olympic gods of wrestling have lost to people in practice (obviously) that goes without saying, practice is practice.. the odds of this guy training with thousands of excellent wrestlers is slim to none.

This is the best and worst thread in Sherdog history

Its funny because if he really is this crazy godfather of MMA he wouldnt even explain himself.
He spend like 30 post digging his hole deeper and deeper and adjusting his narrative without naming a single name or credential.
Just phrases.
In the begining i wasnt sure if maybe he is just overexagerating his role, but holy shit this guy is delusional. He propably has never trained in a proper gym or even competed against trained fighters.

Wtf i thought the era of bullshido is over...

 

[Erratic]

Its funny because if he really is this crazy godfather of MMA he wouldnt even explain himself.
He spend like 30 post digging his hole deeper and deeper and adjusting his narrative without naming a single name or credential.
Just phrases.
In the begining i wasnt sure if maybe he is just overexagerating his role, but holy shit this guy is delusional. He propably has never trained in a proper gym or even competed against trained fighters.

Wtf i thought the era of bullshido is over...

ROFL

Notice how he never linked any fight record, but yet called himself a B level MMA athlete and claims he would beat Karelin and would KO him within 3 minutes as Karelin comes in to grapple LOL. You cannot say you are a pro fighter with any legit credentials if your opponents or record doesnt exist to be viewed..

Godfather of MMA, would beat Karelin, faced thousands of excellent wrestlers, never lost to a wrestler and says he only had 3 losses in 'decades' of MMA competition, and he avenged 2 of those (or maybe all 3 i cant recall.) Any other fun factoids i missed? There are definitely some other gems I forgot, his CTE is brushing off on me and my IQ is dropping by the second by reading his posts, but atleast he brings comedy <Lmaoo>

 

[-guerilla-]

ROFL

Notice how he never linked any fight record, but yet called himself a B level MMA athlete and claims he would beat Karelin and would KO him within 3 minutes as Karelin comes in to grapple LOL. You cannot say you are a pro fighter with any legit credentials if your opponents or record doesnt exist to be viewed..

Godfather of MMA, would beat Karelin, faced thousands of excellent wrestlers, never lost to a wrestler and says he only had 3 losses in 'decades' of MMA competition, and he avenged 2 of those (or maybe all 3 i cant recall.) Any other fun factoids i missed? There are definitely some other gems I forgot, his CTE is brushing off on me and my IQ is dropping by the second by reading his posts, but atleast he brings comedy <Lmaoo>

# knows nothing about wrestling

# knows nothing about MMA

# cartoon warrior

 

[-guerilla-]

Its funny because if he really is this crazy godfather of MMA he wouldnt even explain himself.
He spend like 30 post digging his hole deeper and deeper and adjusting his narrative without naming a single name or credential.
Just phrases.
In the begining i wasnt sure if maybe he is just overexagerating his role, but holy shit this guy is delusional. He propably has never trained in a proper gym or even competed against trained fighters.

Wtf i thought the era of bullshido is over...

My entire verifiable history is all over the internet

I never named Fighters because it's unprofessional to drag them into some angry fanboys gay Crush Rage session over me

Now say something about wrestling and MMA or hit the road

# crush

 

[Erratic]

# knows nothing about wrestling

# knows nothing about MMA

# cartoon warrior

I know far more than you about MMA, you have shown me that much.

I study striking plenty thank you, I am just about to shadow box and do movement drills right this second actually, sorry if that triggers you bambi

InBefore you claim ShadowBoxing is useless to try and devalue me <Lmaoo>

 

[-guerilla-]

lol this reminds me that one of our guys wrestled him in a tournament and he said he had to let karelin turn him otherwise his ribcage would have broken.

dudes hands were fucking huge and also he was a real nice guy in real life,they offered him all kinds of movie and tv show roles but he just said that he likes to read books and watch ballet

Growing up where I did Alexander karelin was a living God to us as the most accomplished and feared wrestler in modern world world history

He is truly a specimen and takes Greco-Roman wrestling to a height yet undiscovered in the compendium of human athletic prowess

His "loss" against rulon Gardner was a discredit to the sport and a perfect example of how we ruined grappling Sports

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/how-we-ruined-grappling-sports.3894543/

However the fact is despite being the greatest wrestler that's ever lived in modern times Alexander karelin is god-awful at MMA as that pancrase bout showed

Pancrase rules are probably the closest MMA analog ruleset and advantages the grappler a bit more

Alexander karelins hideous performance in that pancrase bout is a perfect example that the greatest wrestlers will lose in future MMA because they are wrestling Specialists and it takes more than a single sport specialist to win in the sport of MMA these days

 

[-guerilla-]

I know far more than you about MMA, you have shown me that much.

I study striking plenty thank you, I am just about to shadow box and do movement drills right this second actually, sorry if that triggers you bambi

InBefore you claim ShadowBoxing is useless to try and devalue me <Lmaoo>

No I just think it's important that people know who they're talking to as you know nothing about MMA or wrestling

# dont know jack

 

[Erratic]

Growing up where I did Alexander karelin was a living God to us as the most accomplished and feared wrestler in modern world world history

He is truly a specimen and takes Greco-Roman wrestling to a height yet undiscovered in the compendium of human athletic prowess

His "loss" against rulon Gardner was a discredit to the sport and a perfect example of how we ruined grappling Sports

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/how-we-ruined-grappling-sports.3894543/

However the fact is despite being the greatest wrestler that's ever lived in modern times Alexander karelin is god-awful at MMA as that pancrase bout showed

Pancrase rules are probably the closest MMA analog ruleset and advantages the grappler a bit more

Alexander karelins hideous performance in that pancrase bout is a perfect example that the greatest wrestlers will lose in future MMA because they are wrestling Specialists and it takes more than a single sport specialist to win in the sport of MMA these days

Alot of people think that fight is a work to appease the local crowd, Karelin looks like he is toying with a kid and isn't even trying at all.. did you watch the fight?

 

[Jojomojo]

My entire verifiable history is all over the internet

I never named Fighters because it's unprofessional to drag them into some angry fanboys gay Crush Rage session over me

Now say something about wrestling and MMA or hit the road

# crush

Still nothing but the same phrases over and over again.
Again. How old are you now?(according to your made up identity) 55? And you have never lost to a wrestler in training?

 

[Erratic]

No I just think it's important that people know who they're talking to as you know nothing about MMA or wrestling

# dont know jack

You don't know Jack, look at your likes, 621 likes and 2454 posts of pure bullshit, you know nothing and talk a giant sack of shit. Im not saying likes and posts are the be all and end all, but i made 2000 posts before the likes system was even added, so tell me how a Godfather of MMA that destroys everyone and would beat Karelin has 8000 less likes than some 'random dude' that knows nothing about MMA with a 2010 Sherdog account. <Lmaoo>

BOOM! And his head bounces off the canvas and his eyes roll back, easy work, and I didn't even break a sweat.



/Thread

 

[-guerilla-]

Stipe quit wrestling to pursue baseball so we dont know. Jones didn't have the grade to wrestle d1, could have very easily been as accomplished as DC. Also wrestling is the best base, when you have wrestlers neutralized by eachother the other aspects of their training come into play. Dc wanted to stand up with stipe which is why he lost

Sorry (D-0 wrestler) you're just going to have to eat it on this one

take it like a man

Only one man on that list was good enough to earn a single medal in a single International competition

one

1

that's one man as an elite wrestler carrying the torch

wrestling is on its way out buddy

better pack up ur tights

There is only one man good enough to earn a medal in international competition on this list of current UFC champions

The rest of these guys couldn't even make the Pan American games

you know what that means!!!

Heavyweight Stipe Miocic Aug 17, 2019 0
Light Heavyweight Jon Jones Dec 29, 2018 2
Middleweight Robert Whittaker Dec 7, 2017 0
Israel Adesanya (Interim Champion) Apr 13, 2019 0
Welterweight Kamaru Usman Mar 2, 2019 0
Lightweight Khabib Nurmagomedov Apr 7, 2018 2
Featherweight Max Holloway Jun 3, 2017 3
Bantamweight Henry Cejudo Jun 8, 2019 0

 

[-guerilla-]

You don't know Jack, look at your likes, 621 likes and 2454 posts of pure bullshit, you know nothing and talk a giant sack of shit. Im not saying likes and posts are the be all and end all, but i made 2000 posts before the likes system was even added, so tell me how a Godfather of MMA that destroys everyone and would beat Karelin has 8000 less likes than some 'random dude' that knows nothing about MMA with a 2010 Sherdog account. <Lmaoo>

BOOM! And his head bounces off the canvas and his eyes roll back, easy work, and I didn't even break a sweat.



/Thread

Oh man I thought the guy clowning me over my soccer shorts (under swag legitimacy criteria) was the end-all-be-all but now I got guys coming after my likes

Is nothing off limits with you guys I mean dude you're coming after my likes

LOL

I guess it's natural to see this kind of desperation attempt when you know that you've been checkmated

When it finally Dawns on you that the tiny handful of intelligent responders to this thread agreed with me because they actually read the thread and understood it

You should do some more Recon sleeping over and then come back with a new strategy

And remember in your next post actually say something about MMA and wrestling

your cartoons don't scare me

# strip-mall fanboy

 

[-guerilla-]

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Still nothing but the same phrases over and over again.
Again. How old are you now?(according to your made up identity) 55? And you have never lost to a wrestler in training?

Even your cartoon Cormier can't get you out of this one

The fact is you dumbasses misunderstood the thread

Wrestling is not the best base for MMA

That doesn't mean that future Champions will have no wrestling in their background it means that wrestling specialist will no longer dominate MMA

have somebody you trust read the thread to you

And the next time you post something make it about wrestling and MMA instead of your weird obsession with me

# crush

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

Sorry (D-0 wrestler) you're just going to have to eat it on this one

take it like a man

Only one man on that list was good enough to earn a single medal in a single International competition

one

1

that's one man as an elite wrestler carrying the torch

wrestling is on its way out buddy

better pack up ur tights

There is only one man good enough to earn a medal in international competition on this list of current UFC champions

The rest of these guys couldn't even make the Pan American games

you know what that means!!!

Heavyweight Stipe Miocic Aug 17, 2019 0
Light Heavyweight Jon Jones Dec 29, 2018 2
Middleweight Robert Whittaker Dec 7, 2017 0
Israel Adesanya (Interim Champion) Apr 13, 2019 0
Welterweight Kamaru Usman Mar 2, 2019 0
Lightweight Khabib Nurmagomedov Apr 7, 2018 2
Featherweight Max Holloway Jun 3, 2017 3
Bantamweight Henry Cejudo Jun 8, 2019 0

None of them tried because training mma is better than training wrestling after college since freestyle sucks for mma

 

[-guerilla-]

So you have fought "for decades" in the dark era of MMA and only lost three times? how come you aint no champion my man?
How old are you now? Just asking because a 19 year old wrestler would beat your fcking ass.

"Thousands of excellent wrestlers over decades" you arent even hiding that you make shit up

I train at mediocre gym in Germany where we also have some national wrestling prodigys. Sometimes we make these open sparring sessions and turns out a national wrestling champion with no MMa bouts beats most amateurs with 10 or fights with easy. I cant imagine that the level of wrestling prowess in the US is any less.

Maybe when im in the US next year i might visit you and your historical gym. Cant wait to get to know this "godfather of MMA" who not only competes but also teaches people for decades now and has only lost three times.

But why am i even arguing with you, you stated that EVERYBODE i repeat EVERYBODY could beat Karelin in a MMA bout.
What a moron
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if you cant handle some amateur wrestler throwing you around your gonna get totally pounded by an MMA veteran Like me, even tho I never fought in big shows and am well past my prime I would certainly smoke that kind of guy anytime...I am a wrestler, you sound like a buttscooter

 

[Avenchi]

Well, wrestling for sure is the best base unless you meet a bjj specialist.

 

[locust rising]

I converted pure wrestlers from my highschool wrestling programs and recruited from wrestling tournaments [where my wrestling team was competing] to MMA for decades and went up against thousands of excellent wrestlers over my decades in MMA, they are 75% of who showed up to my gym, My respondents were 75% wrestlers and 10% BJJ, the rest were strikers

I have 3 losses and not a single one has been to a wrestler

I am a wrestler, I competed as a youth in freestyle and greco until moving to the USA where I wrestled in highschool eventually taking over my old highschool team

Thousands of wrestlers for decades...