Opinion Bernie: Socialism 'robs people of their independence'

Home Depot employees are literally too poor to afford healthcare, childcare, and food. So they supplement their employment with public healthcare, public childcare, and publically funded food stamps.

Maybe Home Depot should stop freeloading by forcing tax payers to subsidize their employees who they're too cheap to pay a living wage.
 
What a fucking dork. I bet the cheesy "I love America" line really got people heated. So offensive lmao.
 
Headkicktoleg said:
Give your crops to the lord so he can dole it out and give you protection. Definitely free market capitalism.
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That’s where you are wrong. In feudalism, you didn’t give your crops to the lord, he let you work his land. It was sharecropping. I suppose next you’ll tell me sharecropping was communism, lol.

KONG-D'SNT-TAP said:
People here don’t want socialism we want smart social programs like universal healthcare.

The same thing the old people love while they cry about “muh socialism”
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This. Old motherfuckers on Medicare and Social Security indignant about socialism. Describes half the Faux News audience.
 
AlexDB9 said:
Wait.... you thought I meant ol burn!!? Nah this is actually a Bernie I would vote for

Home Depot co-founder Bernie Marcus issued a video Tuesday slamming socialism and praising the country’s free-market economy as “the biggest creator of wealth and prosperity the world has ever known.”

“I want to start by saying something politically incorrect: I love America,” Mr. Marcus said in a video for his conservative advocacy group, Job Creators Network.

Mr. Marcus, a billionaire philanthropist and President Trump supporter who served as Home Depot’s first CEO for 19 years, said it’s America’s free-market principles that helped his company become a booming success.


“The free-market system has been the biggest creator of wealth and prosperity the world has ever known, lifting billions of people out of poverty and far more superior than any government program could ever be,” he said. “The free market is the tool that allows many to reach out and grab hold of the American dream.

“When I co-founded the Home Depot in 1979, I just been fired and I was broke,” he continued. “There’s no other country in the world that has a system where someone under these circumstances could turn a simple idea and hard work into a company that employs more than 400,000 people and has created thousands of successful millionaires. While I’m no longer in the management of the Home Depot, I still believe in the free-market enterprise system that helped build it.”

Mr. Marcus went on to criticize socialism and the glorification of socialist policies in academia and politics. He said it “pains” him that young people are being “indoctrinated” to believe capitalism is an immoral system.

“The reality is that the free-market system has created the biggest middle-class population in the world,” he said. “And while some may say socialism is well-intentioned, the fact is it robs people of their independence, their dignity and their finances, leading to government dependence suppression of ideas and lower standards of living for those under its thumb.”

Yes it pains me as well to see that Bernie. You must be using some personal anecdotes there but the fact remains that it’s scary how much socialism has become accepted by our youth, and it really does pains me to see people my age glorify it. The United States is not Europe or Canada. The answer to our healthcare/education/etc is more capitalism. Break monopolies, undistort the political system around the pharmaceutical industry and increase competition. The answer should be more capitalism not socialism
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Bernie said that socialism robs people of their independence?
 
Falsedawn said:
Sure, if you know nothing about Feudalism.



Man if it was so easy to "take a simple idea and apply it", why doesn't everyone do it? Like taking a million dollar loan from your parents and starting a business, why doesn't everyone just do that? I can do that in like 15 minutes.

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*$500 million
 
Falsedawn said:
Oh Mick, you're far too limp to be doing any punishing of me.

That you see capitalism as being so benevolent belies your naivety on the subject. Which honestly is kind of sad given your account date. I don't see benevolence when capital actively punishes us for not committing to the game exactly how we're supposed to. Meanwhile that existing capital serves only to grow itself on the back of the working class, disproportionate of any benefit that it generates for that class.

What a fucking joke. The gimmick is that wealth isn't a finite resource, the catch is that it's not only on long terms. It's like a fire hose, the flow can only flow so much. Capture enough of it and it builds itself. Sell that shit to someone else.

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Get it, mark?

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Opens with a strawman beacuse his logic got bitch-slapped. Never comes back to addressing the point.

You can spit out memes like tickets at Chuck E. Cheese, but you just got punished for your idiotic analogy. The only person who revealed a deprivation of thought and logic pertaining to these economic systems was you, which I just pointed out, and to which you clearly have no response.
 
Falsedawn said:
Of course he's going to love capitalism, he's rich. I'm sure the lords loved Feudalism too
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Oh settle the fuck down you pansy. This is the bullshit he's talking about. You people make it sound like your living in game of thrones with a boot across your throat.
 
Happy Man said:
Who wants that?

Back in the good old days of america, this shit didn’t happen. And we were even more capitalistic then.

It’s non Christian greed ruining America’s. Blame the non Christians in charge of Wall Street, big pharmaceutical, the unholy insurance companies, the too big to fail banks, the FED, our media, our cultural outlets.

They all need Jesus. They need followers of Jesus. Not those who would crucify him for whipping money traders.
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i don't know what you are referring to as the "good old days" but the 30s - 90s are defined by social safety nets. we built a middle class from ww2 coupled with social safety nets that supported the common people. pre 30s, we were looking at more unfettered capitalism, which was a nightmare. that was when you had the rockefeller / carnegie era of super rich and super poor until teddy broke them apart.

but i liked your post because even though i'm not an overly religious person (although i am catholic), a little more jesus at the top could go a long way. excessive and uncontrolled greed is without question one of our great tipping points as a world. everything is about money and ratings and unearned fame and superficiality. it's one of those sins that makes the world look good and yet it is built on a completely unsustainable and immoral mode of living.

now if could both decide how to best achieve the goal of fixing that, we'd be on to something.
 
lurker said:
i want my right to $30 per pill aspirin god damnit! any less than $2500 for an ambulance ride and we might as well be commies
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No one keeps costs in check like the United States government.
 
Sohei said:
People dont have independence by not having health care or access to college. People also dont have independence getting ripped off every day.
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Making other people pay for your shit isn't independence.
 
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