Opinion Bernie: Socialism 'robs people of their independence'

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  1. AlexDB9

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    Wait.... you thought I meant ol burn!!? Nah this is actually a Bernie I would vote for

    Home Depot co-founder Bernie Marcus issued a video Tuesday slamming socialism and praising the country’s free-market economy as “the biggest creator of wealth and prosperity the world has ever known.”

    “I want to start by saying something politically incorrect: I love America,” Mr. Marcus said in a video for his conservative advocacy group, Job Creators Network.

    Mr. Marcus, a billionaire philanthropist and President Trump supporter who served as Home Depot’s first CEO for 19 years, said it’s America’s free-market principles that helped his company become a booming success.


    “The free-market system has been the biggest creator of wealth and prosperity the world has ever known, lifting billions of people out of poverty and far more superior than any government program could ever be,” he said. “The free market is the tool that allows many to reach out and grab hold of the American dream.

    “When I co-founded the Home Depot in 1979, I just been fired and I was broke,” he continued. “There’s no other country in the world that has a system where someone under these circumstances could turn a simple idea and hard work into a company that employs more than 400,000 people and has created thousands of successful millionaires. While I’m no longer in the management of the Home Depot, I still believe in the free-market enterprise system that helped build it.”

    Mr. Marcus went on to criticize socialism and the glorification of socialist policies in academia and politics. He said it “pains” him that young people are being “indoctrinated” to believe capitalism is an immoral system.

    “The reality is that the free-market system has created the biggest middle-class population in the world,” he said. “And while some may say socialism is well-intentioned, the fact is it robs people of their independence, their dignity and their finances, leading to government dependence suppression of ideas and lower standards of living for those under its thumb.”

    Yes it pains me as well to see that Bernie. You must be using some personal anecdotes there but the fact remains that it’s scary how much socialism has become accepted by our youth, and it really does pains me to see people my age glorify it. The United States is not Europe or Canada. The answer to our healthcare/education/etc is more capitalism. Break monopolies, undistort the political system around the pharmaceutical industry and increase competition. The answer should be more capitalism not socialism
     
  2. EradiatedHaggis

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    Socialism is for the weak thus it makes perfect sense for it to be embraced by the weakest generation put out by Western civilization in over 100 years.
     
  3. JudoThrowFiasco

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    While i share his sentiments exactly i dont believe having a rich guy be the voice of that thought will sway the pro socialist crowd.
     
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    i want my right to $30 per pill aspirin god damnit! any less than $2500 for an ambulance ride and we might as well be commies
     
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    I'd trust the rich guy telling me how great capitalism is over the rich life long politician telling me how much better it is if we all gave the government our money so they can take care of us.
     
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    Wealth and prosperity...for who?

    Of course he's going to love capitalism, he's rich. I'm sure the lords loved Feudalism too.
     
  7. AlexDB9

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    He was broke as joke before applying a simple idea and prospering from it. I’d hesitate to say any other country in the world would be able to supply a random citizen with that opportunity

    I know they won’t ever understand, but outside of this place I’ve spoken to quite a few lost souls walking around with hammer and sickle flags and I’d like to believe I left them thinking about what they are holding and we’re saying
     
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    Feudalism WAS socialism LOL.
     
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    See my last post
     
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    Sure, if you know nothing about Feudalism.

    Man if it was so easy to "take a simple idea and apply it", why doesn't everyone do it? Like taking a million dollar loan from your parents and starting a business, why doesn't everyone just do that? I can do that in like 15 minutes.

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    Who wants that?

    Back in the good old days of america, this shit didn’t happen. And we were even more capitalistic then.

    It’s non Christian greed ruining America’s. Blame the non Christians in charge of Wall Street, big pharmaceutical, the unholy insurance companies, the too big to fail banks, the FED, our media, our cultural outlets.

    They all need Jesus. They need followers of Jesus. Not those who would crucify him for whipping money traders.
     
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    A lot of countires would offer that -- in fact all developed countries would. Bernies cause is the taxation of said companies and people. If he said the US is the best place in the world to allow for huge wealth development and that shouldnt be touched, i absolutely agree and support him on that. But his agrument is that the US is the only place you can go from rags to riches, and thats false -- and undermines conservative principals
     
  13. AlexDB9

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    Brah I don’t want to say TDS cause I actually you’re alrigt but you’re going pretty close into TDS territory. This isn’t even about Trump. We’re talking here about a self made man

    Warning anectdote: I arrived in Louisville, Ky with only the clothes on my back. Absolutely nothing in my pocket. 22 years later my family is full of doctors and owns many properties. Not everyone needs a rich dad to make it. If an immigrant who didn’t know English did it, what’s the excuse? Also no I didn’t have boots
     
  14. Sohei

    Sohei Its just a flu bro!

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    People dont have independence by not having health care or access to college. People also dont have independence getting ripped off every day.

    Some people are idiots though, civilization is too much for them and they yearn for someone else to be their master and tell them they cant have these things.
     
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    The peasants at least violently revolted all the damn time.

    Nobody does anything anymore.
     
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    Give your crops to the lord so he can dole it out and give you protection. Definitely free market capitalism.
     
  17. KONG-D'SNT-TAP

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    People here don’t want socialism we want smart social programs like universal healthcare.

    The same thing the old people love while they cry about “muh socialism”
     
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    Seeing as the US has 680 B´s and the next country has less than half of that, I think there’s something yo be said about the opportunities that capitalism provides for the average American compared to anhwhere else in the world
     
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    Someone be their master and tell them they can’t have nice things.....waaa?

    You would make a fine comrade bro, I bet you be a head master at a re-education camp
     
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