Bellator LHW division is amazing

[skylolow]

Now only if Bellator could get out its own way when it comes to matchmaking and actually give us some great fights event after event.

My guess is Coker's answer will be some stupid tournament that will be dragged out almost 18 months with odd ball injuries forcing guys out, guys leaving because their contract is up, etc etc. Basically anything besides getting what you want to see for match ups more times than not.

 

[fightfan70]

The ufc cuts will make bellator the new strikeforce

maybe make ufc the new strikeforce

 

[MartinGibson86]

The only one who is in that conversation is the champ (maybe) and Rumble (if he remains in similar form). Even then, let's not forget that Rumble admitted to being Izzy's son, which let's you know where he stands in comparison to the MW Champ.

Do you think Rumble sincerely believes he would lose to Izzy?

 

[Doug Money]

Nemkov
Bader
Davis
Rumble
Yoel
Corey
Lyoto
Anglickas
Yagshimuradov
Viktor Nemkov
Polizzi
Liam
Albrektsson
Biyong
Andriuskevicus
Neal
Manhoef
Trainer
Fortune
MacDonald
Edwards
Moore
Sakara


etc

Moose .aybe going up

 

[Sweater of AV]

Coker doing outstanding things.

 

[MCS]

It is. LHW as a whole is trash, but Rumble and Romero would be good in any era. Nemkov loses to both.

And boy, Phil Davis and Bader probably froze when they heard the Rumble news. Champ hopes over, and please no rematch.

 

[JKS]

You're overrating the UFC LHW's.
Jiri beat a green Nemkov (that was his 6th mma fight) he also lost to Karl back then. Nemkov is not the same fighter, he would destroy Jiri easily right now.
King Mo slept Jiri bro, Jiri only beat a shot Mo later in 3rd round while Andrew Kapel managed to beat that same shot Mo in 1 minute. I mean if you are impressed by a LHW champ that got a split decision over a washed up Jacare, good for you.

Didn't Rumble KTFO Glover in 10 seconds? You're forgetting that one

I am sure the Nemkov has got better but so has Jiri, so how can you even be sure that he destroys Jiri now?? BTW, Jiri avenged that loss to King Mo and finished him by strikes. So trying to use a loss from 2015 against him when he beat the guy just a year ago doesn't really do much for you.

I am impressed by the Jan that KO'd your boy Corey Anderson, Luke Rockhold and KO'd he man who nearly beat Jon Jones. I am impressed by the man who has made a phenomenal career turnaround and is on top of his game.

Sure, Rumble KO'd Glover and Glover KO'd Bader, we can go back and forth on this, both promotions have fighters that beat each other.

Fact is that Bellator has a bunch of past their prime fighters and guys who left the UFC. The only one that would be champ in the UFC potentially is Nemkov, aside from that no one. But the other way around, you have 5-6 guys from the UFC that would be champ right now.

 

[JKS]

I'm with you. I hate these threads where people can't say something rational/un-emotional, like: "Bellator's LHW is looking good" or "Bellator's LHW is catching up to the UFC" . . . they have to go full partisan and say "Bros, LOL, Bellator's LHW division fucking POWNS the UFCs and ur lol retarded lol if you think otherwise".

I get it, Bellator is getting an exciting (albeit retirement-age and on the decline) injection into their mediocre LHW division. Great. But let's not get hyperbolic about it.

Dam right!! Great post.

 

[tehMoose]

I am sure the Nemkov has got better but so has Jiri, so how can you even be sure that he destroys Jiri now?? BTW, Jiri avenged that loss to King Mo and finished him by strikes. So trying to use a loss from 2015 against him when he beat the guy just a year ago doesn't really do much for you.

I am impressed by the Jan that KO'd your boy Corey Anderson, Luke Rockhold and KO'd he man who nearly beat Jon Jones. I am impressed by the man who has made a phenomenal career turnaround and is on top of his game.

Sure, Rumble KO'd Glover and Glover KO'd Bader, we can go back and forth on this, both promotions have fighters that beat each other.

Fact is that Bellator has a bunch of past their prime fighters and guys who left the UFC. The only one that would be champ in the UFC potentially is Nemkov, aside from that no one. But the other way around, you have 5-6 guys from the UFC that would be champ right now.

WOAH DUDE, he finished King Mo by strikes in the rematch Are u serious? That was a washed up Mo with no functional knees left and no chin. The other guys finished him faster than Jiri.
Andrew Kapel finished him in 1 minute, Bader in 15 seconds, Liam also.

Glover finished Bader but got destroyed by 3 Bellator LHW's (Rumble, Corey and Davis). How is this the same? He's 1-3 against them not 2-2.

Bellator has others fighters too, you know? Anglickas would murk Jan

 

[suffersystem]

I imagine then if Bellator's LHW is better, we will start to see Bellator fighters try harder to go to UFC then, since they will get paid more and have an easier way to the belt.

 

[tehMoose]

I imagine then if Bellator's LHW is better, we will start to see Bellator fighters try harder to go to UFC then, since they will get paid more and have an easier way to the belt.

You know this is the reason they all choose Bellator, right?

Rory made 59k against Lawler in UFC, Rory made 400k in Bellator per fight

 

[JustBleed69]

Nemkov
Bader
Davis
Rumble
Yoel
Corey
Lyoto
Anglickas
Yagshimuradov
Viktor Nemkov
Polizzi
Liam
Albrektsson
Biyong
Andriuskevicus
Neal
Manhoef
Trainer
Fortune
MacDonald
Edwards
Moore
Sakara


etc

Eh. Half those dudes are either bloated MWs or old vets on their way out.
Corey, Bader, Rumble, and Nemkov are the only real legit ones.
I doubt any of them do shit in the UFC though, except MAYBE rumble if he's still himself.

 

[suffersystem]

You know this is the reason they all choose Bellator, right?

Rory made 59k against Lawler in UFC, Rory made 400k in Bellator

Only after they fought in UFC and they decided it wasn't worth it to them to pay them that much anymore. I mean, you are going to tell me that Bellator is paying them more than what they were earning while they were in the UFC at their peak? They are making more in bellator NOW as the UFC doesn't want to pay them that amount now, but while they were in the UFC they made more.

And no, they didn't all choose Bellator because of more money. Rumble was under contract already when they parted ways.

 

[tehMoose]

Only after they fought in UFC and they decided it wasn't worth it to them to pay them that much anymore. I mean, you are going to tell me that Bellator is paying them more than what they were earning while they were in the UFC at their peak? They are making more in bellator NOW as the UFC doesn't want to pay them that amount now, but while they were in the UFC they made more.

And no, they didn't all choose Bellator because of more money. Rumble was under contract already when they parted ways.

So you're saying that Rory was not at his peak when he fought for the welterweight belt against Lawler? How low is your IQ dude?
He was 18-2 on a 3 fight win streak against: Maia, Woodley and Saffiedine.

Holland fought 5 times this year in UFC for 500k total and Rory made 400k in one fight in Bellator

 

[TempleoftheDog]

People talk about UFC shills. But, imagine being a shill for the B leagues. Any time I've ever watched Bellator it's been a disaster.

 

[BlackStrap]

Do you think Rumble sincerely believes he would lose to Izzy?

I suspect that he thinks he could win, if he touched him, but I am expecting that he knows well enough form his experience sparring with him that touching him is not a foregone conclusion.

Tell you what. As I type this, I do recall him talking about fighting Jon Jones, which definitely gives me a reason to pause. Only thing is that Rumble doesn't have any experience with Jones in the ring, which makes me think that he's underestimating Jones, as opposed to simply being confident in his chances against ANY fighter.

 

[BlackStrap]

Nice will do!!..

U ever watch baki the grappler? ( none netflix verison the original)

Nope, but I think I may have seen a fight scene from it, where it was described as the most accurate and well executed animated fight scene. I'll take a look, but I don't really watch too much these days (of anything. Even fight cards, I just look at the results and sometimes binge on fights when I'm trying to weigh fighters against each other before a big fight). Will definitely look into it!

 

[Paolo Delutis]

Nope, but I think I may have seen a fight scene from it, where it was described as the most accurate and well executed animated fight scene. I'll take a look, but I don't really watch too much these days (of anything. Even fight cards, I just look at the results and sometimes binge on fights when I'm trying to weigh fighters against each other before a big fight). Will definitely look into it!

Yeah i would recommend you watch the original series/movie they did with the story before watching the netflix..

Its much more detailed and has many real world martial/fighting principles displayed in a classic anime way in that in becomes larger and more extreme then in real life but still rooted in reality...the netflix one is more new age and is about the animation and the gore then true story telling and relating to martial arts...

Definitely worth a watch bro

 

[suffersystem]

So you're saying that Rory was not at his peak when he fought for the welterweight belt against Lawler? How low is your IQ dude?
He was 18-2 on a 3 fight win streak against: Maia, Woodley and Saffiedine.

Holland fought 5 times this year in UFC for 500k total and Rory made 400k in one fight in Bellator

https://thesportsdaily.com/2018/01/21/rory-macdonald-career-earnings-fox11/

According to this he is not making 400,000 per fight. I realize though he is making more than what he was in UFC, but again that is an exemption tot he rule, as most are not making as much as they were in UFC. You think Bellator is paying Rumble 500k a fight?

 

[tehMoose]

https://thesportsdaily.com/2018/01/21/rory-macdonald-career-earnings-fox11/

According to this he is not making 400,000 per fight. I realize though he is making more than what he was in UFC, but again that is an exemption tot he rule, as most are not making as much as they were in UFC. You think Bellator is paying Rumble 500k a fight?

Do you know what sponsors are? Total cash for one fight = 400k (bellator pay + sponsors) while the UFC guys get Reebok coupons <45> Rumble will get around 200-250k from Bellator and more from sponsors + he can advertise his weed business. So yeah, he will make around 400-500k per fight