Believe you me - Bisping and Felder discuss Jon Jones win and future

[SuperAlly]

I know the Jon Jones fetishists want to stop any discussion of Jon and his next fight, but if you just like MMA and not one specific fighter this is a good and balanced discussion about Jon. Both giving him props for his win and career but also outlining why Tom should be next

Good to hear the views of two elite fighters

Basically the first 30 mins of the podcast

 

[CannotWin]

Give props for what win?

Listening to two UFC shills talking about Dana White's sugar baby sounds like an awful waste of time.

Lemme guess: 30 minutes of "how good is Jon? Wow. Stipe, man."

 

[orca]

I know the Jon Jones fetishists want to stop any discussion of Jon and his next fight, but if you just like MMA and not one specific fighter this is a good and balanced discussion about Jon. Both giving him props for his win and career but also outlining why Tom should be next

Good to hear the views of two elite fighters

Basically the first 30 mins of the podcast

17 title fights all wins = secured
the best and hardest resume
not in this lifetime that accomplishent would be replicated

basicaly your favorit goat fighter candidates resume would look like trash if you compare it to jones

 

[rjmbrd]

Give props for what win?

Listening to two UFC shills talking about Dana White's sugar baby sounds like an awful waste of time.

Lemme guess: 30 minutes of "how good is Jon? Wow. Stipe, man."

Pretty much the opposite.

They both outline that Stipe is an important name in the sport, but respectfully looked old/bad. Bisping is friendly and a countryman of Aspinall so no surprise his take is its a mandate for Jon to fight him, but its Felder who really stamps this point.

Its so obvious to anyone with even a cursory knowledge of the UFC that Jones should have fought Aspinall not a retired Stipe, but it crosses over to complete absurdity to refuse fighting the literal interim title holder. Nobody in MMA media is going angle for that.

 

[SuperAlly]

Give props for what win?

Listening to two UFC shills talking about Dana White's sugar baby sounds like an awful waste of time.

Lemme guess: 30 minutes of "how good is Jon? Wow. Stipe, man."

Beating the UFC HW GOAT of course

They credited him where due but also questioned him where due

As it should be

 

[SuperAlly]

Agree. Tbh

 

[TITS]

 

[Kowboy On Sherdog]

 

[Mammothman]

Paul Felder was never an elite fighter

 

[RockyLockridge]

Paul Felder was never an elite fighter

finished charles

 

[Oscar Madison]

Paul Felder was never an elite fighter

Felder reminds me of my youth.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

finished charles

Not exactly an exclusive club...

 

[SuperAlly]

Did he not get to a ranking close to top 5?

I'd say top 10 in your weight category makes you elite

Paul Felder was never an elite fighter

 

[LeBron]

Jon dragged an old man out of retirement to beat him up. Never forget.

 

[Mammothman]

Did he not get to a ranking close to top 5?

I'd say top 10 in your weight category makes you elite

He was very though that for sure but skill wise he wasn't there, no elite fighter losses to Dan Freaking Hooker.

 

[SuperAlly]

He was very though that for sure but skill wise he wasn't there, no elite fighter losses to Dan Freaking Hooker.

Seems we just have a different bar for elite and that's ok

For me, if you are in the top 10 in the UFC in the modern era (and no in Nunes old divisions as they often didn't have enough fighters to fill a top 10) you're elite.

 

[SuperAlly]

He was very though that for sure but skill wise he wasn't there, no elite fighter losses to Dan Freaking Hooker.

Yeh, you know what, I just double checked his record and it is questionable to be fair

23 fights with 17 wins
A couple of notable wins, a few less than stellar names in his losses

You are right. Very questionable

Things like the Charles win, his highest ranking and him being a fairly well known name throughout his tenure probably swayed me

Doesn't really change the overall point of the thread though

Guy who knows the fight game inside out gave decent and even handed analysis

 

[Crash Lance]

I barely give a damn what Michael Bisping and Cormier have to say about these assassins.

When it comes to Cormier's opinions about Jones, these statements should be taken with a gargantuan grain of salt (for obvious reasons).

 

[SuperAlly]

I barely give a damn what Michael Bisping and Cormier have to say about these assassins.

When it comes to Cormier's opinions about Jones, these statements should be taken with a gargantuan grain of salt (for obvious reasons).

Given Cormier has more reason than just about anyone on earth to be salty about Jon, is he not pretty professional on UFC broadcasts and builds Jon up?

 

[Crash Lance]

Given Cormier has more reason than just about anyone on earth to be salty about Jon, is he not pretty professional on UFC broadcasts and builds Jon up?

In my post up there, I clearly mentioned Michael Bisping. I even went as far as to mention Michael before Cormier.

Furthermore, I can name a gargantuan amount of assassins that should despise Jones. However, only a few of them actually despise Jones. In the beginning, I was gonna post a considerable amount of gifs and images of Jones being a criminal and a damn psychopath. However, I can't find them at this exact moment.

In no particular order:



1. Teixeira.

2. Anthony Johnson. Rest in peace, Anthony Johnson.

3. Błachowicz.

4. Alex Pereira.

5. Anthony Smith.

6. Dominick Reyes.

7. Adesanya.

8. Tom Aspinall.

9. Gustafsson.

10. Thiago Santos.

11. Chael Sonnen.

12. Dan Henderson.

13. Saint Preux.

14. Rashad Evans.

15. Quinton Jackson.

16. Brandon Vera.

17. Rua.

18. Cormier.

19. Belfort.

20. Magomed Ankalaev.

21. Ngannou.