BATMAN V SUPERMAN Thread v.12

[Deleted member 429137]

because those properties are no longer marvel properties.

According to this Marvel has most of the rights to Namor, all that's left is working around some old contracts. I don't know what that means.

http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/ne...e-explains-namor-the-sub-mariner-film-rights/

 

[KnightTemplar]

Sony still has the rights, though. Not Marvel.

Yeah, Pem123 already pointed that out. My bad.

 

[KnightTemplar]

True in some respects. Batman vs superman should predominantly be an ideological battle. The dark vs light , with the two eventually finding a balance. That was harder to portray since superman is darker in these movies.

I'm just happy Batman actually finally fought like batman should. As well as us seeing that his best weapon is his strategic mind and ability to battle plan. He fought like a bar fighter in the Nolan films, and didn't show any of his genius intellect.

Civil war could be good. But marvel have the opposite problem to DC. They struggle to make films that are darker with more adult themes (they couldn't even hint at killing off some random dog in age of ultron, and had to show it being saved).Civil war should be darker, and if it isn't the film will be garbage.

Can't wait for the suicide squad to come out and shit all over that potential turd

Agree with this somewhat. Winter Soldier was fairly dark; a neo-Nazi death cult infiltrating and corrupting the entire US Government and trying to kill millions of people. Hell, they even had The Redford killing some poor maid in cold blood because she walked in on him talking to Bucky.

Marvel's biggest problem is Can Villains. Apart from Loki, the only two memorable Big Bads have been Red Skull and Thanos. Skull hasn't been seen since First Avenger and they're saving Thanos for Infinity War.

I don't have high hopes for Baron Zemo, but I hope at least he isn't a joke like Strucker in AoU.

 

[Deleted member 429137]

because those properties are no longer marvel properties.

I am baffled that Fantastic Four is the fifth most profitable franchise. I would not expect three bombs to be more profitable than two blockbuster Captain America movies.

 

[RedFoxOne]

Watching this makes me wish Snyder filmed the climactic ending like Ang Lee's Hulk.

Batman, watching Gotham and Metropolis be destroyed by Superman and Doomsday, as he did in the beginning of the film with Superman and Zod, uses the Batmobile to get closer to both of them; hoping to use the Kryptonian Spear to kill them both. It would be a neat reversal of the opening.

Snyder always films the world ending, but never makes the audience feel like its ending.

 

[JBSchroeds]

I come baring gifts! I finished my most recent movie-related analysis: the predictive power of critic ratings and domestic boxoffice longevity. Basically I looked up scores from a whole bunch of different places and see how well they fit a film's longevity (shown here as how much of their domestic gross comes from the opening weekend; lower percentage means longer legs).

The TLDR of the chart: the score from the general public tells you jack squat about how well a movie is going to do. IMDb, RT User, Metacritic User, and CinemaScore are almost useless. Critic ratings as compiled by RT and Metacritic are better judges but still poor predictors. Basically this means it's really hard to tell how well a film will do but the best indicator (of those looked at) is going to be the Metacritic score.


So, what's this mean for BvS? Expect it to have poor legs (not that that's a surprising conclusion at this point). And just to hammer home that you can't rely on these numbers: the Metacritic score predicts a $380mil domestic, while a more nuanced evaluation gives something in the $326-337mil range.

 

[MMouse]

imagine snyder and bay doing a movie together

 

[heavyarms21]

I come baring gifts! I finished my most recent movie-related analysis: the predictive power of critic ratings and domestic boxoffice longevity. Basically I looked up scores from a whole bunch of different places and see how well they fit a film's longevity (shown here as how much of their domestic gross comes from the opening weekend; lower percentage means longer legs).

The TLDR of the chart: the score from the general public tells you jack squat about how well a movie is going to do. IMDb, RT User, Metacritic User, and CinemaScore are almost useless. Critic ratings as compiled by RT and Metacritic are better judges but still poor predictors. Basically this means it's really hard to tell how well a film will do but the best indicator (of those looked at) is going to be the Metacritic score.
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So, what's this mean for BvS? Expect it to have poor legs (not that that's a surprising conclusion at this point). And just to hammer home that you can't rely on these numbers: the Metacritic score predicts a $380mil domestic, while a more nuanced evaluation gives something in the $326-337mil range.

The Jungle book comes out next week so BvS will continue its big drop

 

[GSP in 2006]

I am baffled that Fantastic Four is the fifth most profitable franchise. I would not expect three bombs to be more profitable than two blockbuster Captain America movies.

Think I first saw that diagram in 2014, pre TWS. It still works, just kinda dated. Spidey would be kinda in a Sony-Disney circle like Scarlet Witch & Quuksilver.

 

[milliniar]

The Jungle book comes out next week so BvS will continue its big drop

Ya next week it may stay #2, but then after that i doubt it does better than 3rd. and then drop even further with Civil war

 

[JBSchroeds]

The final numbers aren't out yet but the preliminaries show that this weekend's drop wasn't as terrible as you might think (and is, relatively, a lot better than week 2's bleedout). It's worse than the median, but it's only about 1/2 a standard deviation off. There's a bunch of comicbook movies that have done worse in their third weekend. But for a movie featuring the Trinity on screen for the first time ever anything worse than median is a big fat fail.

 

[Pem123]

Idk man I don't have a good feeling about Suicide Squad. Especially since they're doing all these weeks of reshoots. At first they said the reshoots were to "inject some humor" into it, then somebody said it was to "add more action." So either they made a comic book movie with no action or they made a Joker movie with no jokes. Either way I don't have high hopes. And I'm calling it now, Civil War will be 10x better than Suicide Squad.

You realize reshoot is something very common in making a movie right ?

 

[heavyarms21]

The final numbers aren't out yet but the preliminaries show that this weekend's drop wasn't as terrible as you might think (and is, relatively, a lot better than week 2's bleedout). It's worse than the median, but it's only about 1/2 a standard deviation off. There's a bunch of comicbook movies that have done worse in their third weekend. But for a movie featuring the Trinity on screen for the first time ever anything worse than median is a big fat fail.

Agree you have to be harder on it considering it has 2 of the most iconic characters in pop culture not just Movies going toe to toe and the on screen debut of Wonder Woman

 

[Lead]

I gave it a 7 which for me, is impressive because ever since this movie was announced, I thought it was a really dumb move. I think the entire idea of having these two in the same universe is stupid let a lot having them go against each other or having the justice league. With that said, the movie did exactly what it set out to do and made a good movie for the material and silly storyline that had to deal with. Still not amazed with it and definitely not looking forward to Justice League but this isn't as awful as the reviews are making it. Its a good comic book flick and presents a few different cool styles to it. I think Snyder's perspectives are interesting and make the films better than they would be without it.

 

[Kick Strickland]

You realize reshoot is something very common in making a movie right ?

Yeah but the buzz about these particular reshoots is that they're doing them as a direct result of the things people didn't like about BvS. That doesn't sound good (I'm one of the ones that really really did not like BvS at all). But maybe I'm wrong and it'll be great. Guess we'll see.

 

[Pem123]

Yeah but the buzz about these particular reshoots is that they're doing them as a direct result of the things people didn't like about BvS. That doesn't sound good (I'm one of the ones that really really did not like BvS at all). But maybe I'm wrong and it'll be great. Guess we'll see.

well that part is still a rumor.

one of the cast said they add some action to it, which is way more believable coming from a legit source.

 

[Kick Strickland]

imagine snyder and bay doing a movie together

* movie trailer voice: "in a dark, depressing world.....everything explodes."

 

[Kick Strickland]

well that part is still a rumor.

one of the cast said they add some action to it, which is way more believable coming from a legit source.

yeah that was jai courtney I think. idk man I just don't have high hopes for it. Civil War on the other hand, I'm really pumped for.

 

[JasonTodd]

Snyder always films the world ending, but never makes the audience feel like its ending.

I highly disagree.

Most of the bitching by fans about MoS is about all the destruction and casualties, and the sense of doom, instead of hope.

 

[Deleted member 429137]

You realize reshoot is something very common in making a movie right ?

Does anyone know of any great movies that went through reshoots? I think it has a stigma for a reason.