BATMAN V SUPERMAN Thread v.12

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Holly Hunter is 58 years old.
 
His power was menacing, but imagine if they built this up correctly, where he runs through the Justice League, wreaks havoc on Metropolis, even potentially Gotham, and everyone is scared shitless of him.
that would of been wicked.
 
I have a question

At the end of the movie luthor tells batman that the bell has rung the god is dead so now darkseid is coming

Why the fuck would lex luthor want darkseid to come to earth? What is his motovation behind this exactly?

Did he want darkseid to come and kill everyone?
 
I suppose, but he's supposed to be resolute. He was walking around, indifferent and introspective for two and a half hours in his last film. Give him some fucking balls, man. Snyder keeps trying to neuter him. The character isn't hard to work around, but Reeves did it. Routh wasn't a bad Superman either. The way the writers portray him goes a long way toward making the character better. Snyder and Goyder definitely went out of their way to make him full on sour grapes.

Th Reeves version was campy and just fit with the times. I also have blocked the Routh version from my mind after seeing Lex bang old ladies for money. I liked what they did with this Superman, using the Batman as a cause to make up for his own doubt - be conflicted with the world who either loves or hates him, feel hate for the first time towards humans. Id be a mopey bitch too if i was a god and took shit from humans because i had to destroy some buildings / lives to protect the entire planet from 3 other gods.
 
I have a question

At the end of the movie luthor tells batman that the bell has rung the god is dead so now darkseid is coming

Why the fuck would lex luthor want darkseid to come to earth? What is his motovation behind this exactly?

Did he want darkseid to come and kill everyone?


No fucking clue - no idea how or why Lex was the knowledge base for the whole movie -- but him referencing Darkseid was asinine
 
I have a question

At the end of the movie luthor tells batman that the bell has rung the god is dead so now darkseid is coming

Why the fuck would lex luthor want darkseid to come to earth? What is his motovation behind this exactly?

Did he want darkseid to come and kill everyone?
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It might be Brainiac.
 
I have a question

At the end of the movie luthor tells batman that the bell has rung the god is dead so now darkseid is coming

Why the fuck would lex luthor want darkseid to come to earth? What is his motovation behind this exactly?

Did he want darkseid to come and kill everyone?
My interpretation of it would be he might have accidentally alerted Darkseid about Earth's presence when he was tinkering around the Kryptonian ship. Or the Kryptonian computer might have told Luthor that Darkseid is interested in the planet also.
 
No fucking clue - no idea how or why Lex was the knowledge base for the whole movie -- but him referencing Darkseid was asinine

I'm assuming the AI in the crashed ship told him all of this. He more than likely wanted Doomsday to take out Superman and possibly control him, but he's a control freak who's trying to prove that he has power over everyone since his dad beat his ass as a kid and treated him like shit. He's got daddy issues.
 
Luthor's plan to create Doomsday would have made more sense if he could control the creature. Supes just saved Luthor's life when he blocked Doomsday's punch.

If Doomsday did manage to kill Superman, then Doomsday would basically destroy the world over time. Nice plan, Lex.
 
Yeah none of that made any sense. If they had lex make bizarro instead he would have been able to control him

Probably would have made more sense. Could have saved doomsday for Man of Steel 2
 
I'm assuming the AI in the crashed ship told him all of this. He more than likely wanted Doomsday to take out Superman and possibly control him, but he's a control freak who's trying to prove that he has power over everyone since his dad beat his ass as a kid and treated him like shit. He's got daddy issues.

that would be the most logical connection

although, Lex just gaining full control of the ship - from Zods fingertips was lazy writing.
 
Yeah none of that made any sense. If they had lex make bizarro instead he would have been able to control him

Probably would have made more sense

It made sense since Alexander Luthor thinks he's being undermined by everyone and he's got something to prove. I'm under the impression without a doubt that he intended on having Superman kill Batman, Doomsday kill Superman and then he would take over through Doomsday and his control over him. I also am assuming that he thought this was possible since the ship gave him access and control over everything as an overseer once he took Zod's finger prints and got into the ship. If I recall correctly the ship even referenced him as the leader or commander of the ship itself once he got into it.

I'm reading a lot into it, but I'm thinking that's what it was.
 
Why would superman just let the crashed ship sit in the middle of the city?

Why would he let the US government work on it? I would think superman would have destoryed it right after the battle to keep that technology out of the hands of bad men

Same thing with zods body..He just let the US goverment take it to run tests
 
Yeah. I like that she wasn't in Lex's pocket.

On the other hand, I hated Laurence Fishburne's version of Perry White in BvS.

I didn't like how he came across as kind of an asshole but kind of a compassionate guy. Felt like they didn't know what to do with him. It was almost like he was at times a pseudo-comic relief without much comedy.

Someone made an excellent point in this thread that one of the things that was unconvincing in the film was Supes' disapproval of Batman. I get that the dude is meant to be a straight and narrow type and wouldn't like a vigilante but it seems like in the vast scheme of the issues he has to deal with- all the weighty stuff with how the world perceives him and whether he is acting in the world's best interest and whether he has the ability to discern what is the best interest...the disliking of Batman just seemed so secondary. It was almost as if it was just shoehorned in there so the feud wasn't one-sided with Batman just looking to take Superman out.

You needed Superman to be aware of Batman before the big confrontation so you needed Clark to be going on his crusade against Batman and fighting with White about being able to cover it and what not but it never seemed as significant as Batman's fear and distrust of Superman which was conveyed quite well.
 
Why would superman just let the crashed ship sit in the middle of the city?

Why would he let the US government work on it? I would think superman would have destoryed it right after the battle to keep that technology out of the hands of bad men

No idea. Possibly he believed that if he moved it, they would think he had something to hide. Maybe he thought the ship was innocuous considering all other kryptonians were dead after he killed Zod and his cronies and no one would be able to get into it? There is a lot left up to interpretation from assumptions.
 
I didn't like how he came across as kind of an asshole but kind of a compassionate guy. Felt like they didn't know what to do with him. It was almost like he was at times a pseudo-comic relief without much comedy.

Someone made an excellent point in this thread that one of the things that was unconvincing in the film was Supes' disapproval of Batman. I get that the dude is meant to be a straight and narrow type and wouldn't like a vigilante but it seems like in the vast scheme of the issues he has to deal with- all the weighty stuff with how the world perceives him and whether he is acting in the world's best interest and whether he has the ability to discern what is the best interest...the disliking of Batman just seemed so secondary. It was almost as if it was just shoehorned in there so the feud wasn't one-sided with Batman just looking to take Superman out.

You needed Superman to be aware of Batman before the big confrontation so you needed Clark to be going on his crusade against Batman and fighting with White about being able to cover it and what not but it never seemed as significant as Batman's fear and distrust of Superman which was conveyed quite well.

I felt like their distaste for one another came off as convoluted. There was a lot of convenient things happening in this film to manufacture it's set pieces without logic. It really hurt the film in my eyes.
 
Why would superman just let the crashed ship sit in the middle of the city?

Why would he let the US government work on it? I would think superman would have destoryed it right after the battle to keep that technology out of the hands of bad men

Same thing with zods body..He just let the US goverment take it to run tests
I don't have any major issues with that since I'm just going to assume that there's a lot of politics and compromises involved that happened over time.
 
Holly Hunter is 58 years old.

she was looking thick, solid, and tight for a woman of that certain age.

Had a crush on her back in her day...a la The Firm and The Piano. Definitely a great actress to boot.
 
No idea. Possibly he believed that if he moved it, they would think he had something to hide. Maybe he thought the ship was innocuous considering all other kryptonians were dead after he killed Zod and his cronies and no one would be able to get into it? There is a lot left up to interpretation from assumptions.

it was just weird that it was still like almost perfectly running. the drone robot was still working. all the kryptonite information was still available

Superman could have really used all that information and stuff...Really surprising to see that he pretty much didn't care about any of it

I don't have any major issues with that since I'm just going to assume that there's a lot of politics and compromises involved that happened over time.

Superman doesn't answer to politics, He showed that in the desert scene went he went to save louis. He also said it in the first movie when he told them they would never control him

I know I'm looking way to much into it. Its just a lil funky to me
 
it was just weird that it was still like almost perfectly running. the drone robot was still working. all the kryptonite information was still available

Superman could have really used all that information and stuff...Really surprising to see that he pretty much didn't care about any of it

excellent point.
 
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