Movies AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR v.8

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I give it a 9.5, 10 for the fun factor. This was such an entertaining movie, the capstone to all the previous MCU films. It was like Dragon Ball Z meets Naruto meets Marvel and I mean that in the best way.

The Russos did a great job, they made sure everyone got time to shine. Thor's hammer was great, Iron Man's nano tech diverting portions of itself was cool, Quill is a tactical genius, Captain America is sort of stuck with no power upgrades. But then you realize that his glow up power is people are loyal to him. Even Groot goes to where the Avengers are in the forest to try to stop Thanos getting to Vision after he meets Steve. All the other heroes have comms so they go there. Thor is late because he doesn't have comms. I also liked where Steve makes his first entrance and Scarlet Witch has the "My dad is going to kick all your asses" smile on her face. They planted those seeds in Ultron and it's a small but nice payoff. On the other hand Tony has ptsd because he fell out with Steve and most of his friends left him. I was confused as to why he was antagonistic towards Strange but then it made sense. I also really liked how most of the characters at this point are at the level of being uncomplicatedly heroic, with the exception of Banner, who I hope gets a huge upgrade or something next film.

I would have liked to have seen Banner or somebody talk about the Hulkbuster. It seems like they shot a scene of Banner and Nat talking in Wakanda with Banner working on the Hulkbuster in the trailers. Everything is very quick once they get to Wakanda and it would have given some breathing room before the epic end battles.

The Black Order was well done. They seemed like a credible threat to the heroes and i'm sad they're dead. I wish Marvel did a 30 minute "prequel" of them wrecking Xandar and the Asgardians. Proxima looked weird, they should have just found a tall lady to be completely makeup'd instead of doing CGI. They should have left out Wong cutting off Cull's hand. That was op and makes you wonder why Strange wasn't chopping apart Thanos with portals. Also, why didn't he just portal out of the ship when he wanted to go back to Earth?

The gauntlet was well done and I liked that they put limits on it. It's a device and it has its functions and its rules. Thanos is also not all powerful he had his own limits. He's like to Asgardians what Asgardians are to humans without the stones. Everything felt grounded.

I didn't like Quill punching Thanos to ruin the plan. I fully believed Quill loved Gamora when he was going to shoot her in the face and being an impetuous idiot is more Drax's thing. I think it would have worked better if he didn't punch Thanos but instead started taunting him viciously. Thanos should have garbled "I loved her." And then Quill should have said he's just a selfish asshole, etc. And then Thanos starts getting angry his voice gets more in control and says "I loved her" and then he breaks out of Mantis' hold yells "I loved her" at Quill. And that would segue into him just going power crazy and throwing the moon down. It reinforces Thanos' sacrifice and the emotional toll it took on him.

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I didn't have a problem with killing half the universe instead of expanding resources. Thanos has been experimenting on populations to see how they react to getting half exterminated. He did it to Gamora's people, Drax's people, probably a whole bunch of others. He let half of the Asgardians go (or captured them and let them live). And he thinks it works. He probably also feels that with a numbers reset comes a mental reset. If you just give people more resources they just consume at a larger rate and are still a problem. But if you traumatize them they start acting right.
I also didn't have a problem with how Thanos wants to fight everyone even though once he gets to Wakanda he didn't really need to. It's like a holy quest for Thanos. To be everyone's savior he has to do the work and he has to earn it. He has to suffer for it. He suffers from outside sources like the soul stone but there's also self imposed suffering. And he has to give those that oppose him a chance to earn what they feel is right as well. He's like twisted space Jesus.

I loved the ending. I think the person you sacrifice for the soul stone gets trapped there and acts as your conscience when you decide to fully use the soul stone's power. Thanos saying "everything" was such a great moment. And then he goes to watch the sunrise on a grateful universe. The music playing in that scene should have continued into the first part of the credits up to the Avenger | Infinity War title. I also think it would have been cool if he wore his armor up to that scene and unbuckled it before sitting down to watch the sunrise. It would symbolize that the war for him is over, he achieved his goal.

I would have added Thor enchanting his hammer at the forge. Groot still gives it the handle, but then Thor wakes up being rejuvenated by the hammer with the hammer levitating and lightning connecting them. Eitri then tells Thor to speak an enchantment, to bond him with the power of the hammer. He does, there's some sparkle crackle, and then Thor drops back to the ground exhausted again and the hammer falls on the floor. Groot goes to give the hammer to Thor but he can't lift it. He looks at Thor confused and Thor just smiles. The hammer is now enchanted.
I really just want Steve to pick up an enchanted hammer at some point. It would have been interesting if Steve was the one that buried it in Thanos chest. Thor comes down and shoots lightning at Thanos and throws the hammer. Thanos manages to block it with the full gauntlet but Thor continues charging down and him and Thanos double punch each other. Thor gets knocked on the ground, Thanos gets knocked back. Thanos raises the gauntlet ready to close his fist and blast Thor. And then "TCHUNK." Thanos looks down and Steve has buried the hammer/axe in his chest. He coughs some blood out and uses the "You should have aimed at the head, boy" (I added boy because while Steve is old he's still young to these guys). He backhands Steve. But Thor's back in the fight and a huge punch sends Thanos to his knee. The movie resumes similarly. He grabs the hammer and pushes it in deeper. "I told you I would kill you for this" Since Thanos used the head line he goes "You talk too much" echoing Thor's line earlier in the movie when Thanos was grabbing his head. Finger Snap.

Another thing that fell flat for me was Rocket and Bucky's exchange. "How much for the gun?" "I'll put you in my will." "How much for the arm?" "I've lived a pretty long time." Something to that effect. Then at the end Rocket can find the gun but be emotionally impacted by the fact that Bucky's actually gone. Rocket skirts that asshole line but he can also be sentimental. And in the group depressed shot he can be cradling the gun and he can use it in the next movie. He can still use it in the next movie but there's less emotional weight to it.

It would have been amusing if Eitri went to Wakanda also and started punting aliens all over the place. Dinklage was okay, I kept thinking he was doing a manly impression of Tyrion since they had the bit where Quill was making a deeper voice in front of Thor.

Acting awards go to Brolin/Effects team, Thanos is incredible, Chris Hemsworth, and Danai Gurira.
 
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but that crack addict may have a mutant son and the heart surgeon could be a cannibal :eek::eek::eek::eek:...

This also. Plus when we are talking about the entire universe, from that perspective, the difference between a human bum and heart surgeon is probably minimal in Thanos' eyes.
 
I meant when he took her as a kid

Did he know that he would need somebody that he loved at the moment he took her back then

Or was it just something he happened to find out later and it just worked out for him

Seems to me that her being the one he loved and her taking him to the soul stone and him needing to kill her is all a little too coincidental
na he didnt know at the time.... and just grew to love her over time
 
This also. Plus when we are talking about the entire universe, from that perspective, the difference between a human bum and heart surgeon is probably minimal in Thanos' eyes.
not when you apply that logic worldwide...

no more bums, or uneducated, or savages..
 
@Dragonlordxxxxx so since the opening numbers are out, whats your estimate on the total box office take now>?
In the previous poll, I think I voted between $2.2 and $2.3 billion worldwide. But I think this really has a chance of surpassing Avatar's $2.7 billion worldwide (I'm not saying it will, just that it has a chance). Infinity War has a lot of momentum thanks to:

- Enthusiastic word of mouth.
- Great critics reviews.
- People around the world are MCU fans and this is a 10-year culminating mega crossover event.
- People know that there's a huge plot point and they don't want to be spoiled, so they have to see it.
- Lots of repeat viewings.
- Melissa McCarthy
 
I meant when he took her as a kid

Did he know that he would need somebody that he loved at the moment he took her back then

Or was it just something he happened to find out later and it just worked out for him

Seems to me that her being the one he loved and her taking him to the soul stone and him needing to kill her is all a little too coincidental

He loves her and he loves Death.

Thanos isn't a complete psychopath- he just has a really fucked up moral worldview.

He's kind of like Stalin- he foresees everyone going towards destruction and chaos and he makes a utilitarian calculation to wipe out 1/2 of beings so that the other 1/2 live, whereas otherwise, everybody would just go towards atrophy.
 
Why is it that the soul stone was the only stone that needed a prerequisite in order to attain it

Is that a comic book thing?
the soul gem is so complicated in the comics lol
http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Soul_Gem
Properties
  • The Soul Gem is sentient; it has a desire to collect souls
  • The gem can attack another's soul in various ways
  • The gem can reveal information by peering into another's soul or using the 'Cold Light of Truth'
  • The gem can trap souls inside itself in an idyllic world.
  • The gem's wielder can access the memories and skills of those imprisoned within Soul World
  • The gem can revert beings to their natural state.
  • The gem protects its wielder from soul-based attacks.
  • The gem can disrupt the anima of a soul with a karmic blast rendering the target temporarily unconscious. Certain beings are immune to this attack.
 
not when you apply that logic worldwide...

no more bums, or uneducated, or savages..

Everyone plays a part in a balanced community, to me that sounds like creating an unbalanced universe weighted heavily towards the gifted.From what I saw of the MCU version of Thanos is, he likey his things balanced.
 
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How the fuck are they going to include Adam warlock in all this? Captain marvel isn’t capable alone. Adam warlock is badass and probably the most important/powerful avenger, especially against thanos.
 
How the fuck are they going to include Adam warlock in all this? Captain marvel isn’t capable alone. Adam warlock is badass and probably the most important/powerful avenger, especially against thanos...
...in the comics. Also not an Avenger.
 
How the fuck are they going to include Adam warlock in all this? Captain marvel isn’t capable alone. Adam warlock is badass and probably the most important/powerful avenger, especially against thanos.
I think the working theory is that they're gonna keep Gamora and a few others "dead" at the end of AVENGERS 4, for max feels, then use the plot for STAR TREK III for GOTG 3, using Adam Warlock as a sort of Charon and resurrect her at that point.
 
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