Movies AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR v.7

[KnightTemplar]

Thanos loses

 

[TONY-T]

Not bad but i think base thanos outskills and outathletes both of them together.

No doubt! But it still would have been awesome to see, as well as a cool throw back.

 

[MMouse]

Lol, I walked out of the cinema on a high. Took a little while to sink in I have to wait a full fucking year to find out how this ends

Dude, the first night I needed a couple of hours to digest and accept what happened. A few times i was at denial when co workers and I were theorizing.

I woke up in the morning with a shock factor still embedded.

What cooled it off for me was the Doctor Strange theory going around. That he saw the outcome and felt this was the way ect ect.

Had I not read that or thought of that, I wouldve experienced it to the same degree all over again and not experience the movie emotionally clearer during my 2nd showing

 

[MMouse]

No doubt! But it still would have been awesome to see, as well as a cool throw back.

For sure man. Heavy hitters of MCU vs Thanos is always a good dose of nerdgasm

 

[SmilinDesperado]

I would like to see them throw us a curve ball. When it's all said and done, maybe they can lock Thanos away, just don't kill him. Then eventually, have him turn anti-hero and help the heroes in future movies. Now THAT would be epic.

He does actually help the good guys in the comics when someone (Magus..i think..) goes on their own little inifinity stone quest

 

[MMouse]

I would like to see them throw us a curve ball. When it's all said and done, maybe they can lock Thanos away, just don't kill him. Then eventually, have him turn anti-hero and help the heroes in future movies. Now THAT would be epic.

Ya they definately raised the bar.

And you're definately onto something. Hes done
It in the comics

 

[armbarforhire]

On a side note, I think it was a mistake adding the Netflix shows (Daredevil, Punisher, Ironfist etc..)in to the MCU. I have a feeling maybe the people involved with production feel that way too, because we still haven't seen or heard anything to indicate they'll be joining the movies, apart from a few references here and there.

The shows are too gritty and grounded to have storylines involving aliens and half the population disintegrating in to ashes, Yet again they have storylines involving mystical ninjas, so who knows... it'll be weird seeing Punisher or Daredevil square off against intergalactic creatures.

Well thats part of the beuty/fun of the big crossovers, having characthers out of their element interacting with each other while at the same time the individual shows dont need to deal with all that stuff, just like spider-man doesnt deal with all the kinds of demons Ghost Rider does in his own book or aliens like the Fantastic Four or mutants like X-men.

 

[KnightTemplar]

They showed Iron Man on TV last night. It was nice to watch it again so soon after Infinity War. I'd honestly forgotten that the Son of Coul had been part of the MCU since the very beginning

Looking back, it's easy to underestimate what a massive gamble Marvel was taking. Iron Man wasn't that well known, hard as it is to believe, outside of hard core Comic Book Nerds. Ten years later and if you ask a civilian to name the most famous Superheroes, chances are Tony will be up there with Spiderman, Batman and Superman.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

Good explaination.

Im sure Kevin and Russos are well aware of ppl jumping to this. And because of that, i just a have a feeling they got something up their sleeve to combat this so ppl can care about what is going on and not how many movies in the future ect ect. while watching avengers 4

I mean, when we felt gamoras death, peter fading away in front of tony, those scenes were so impactful that we care about what was going on at the moment instead of thinking "ya naw, no way they got future movies" lol

Yeah, I think the only way to really combat this criticism, is to just make really strong, impactful scenes, like they did in IW.
And people DID die in the movie, so I don't know what the complaints are about.

I mean, a death that hasn't been really talked about much is Loki's. I wasn't even a big Loki fan, but how Thanos killed him...I was like "fuckkkk". He's holding Loki up in the air by the throat, Loki's legs are kicking as he's struggling to break free--life leaving his face, and Thanos is just slowly choking the life out of him in front of his brother.
*He kills Heimdal.
*The movie opens up with all the suriviving Asgardians dead.

*He grabs Gamorrah, someone he considers a daughter, and he throws her off a cliff to complete his quest.
*The scene where you think Tony is going to die
*HOW Peter reacted when he knew he was going was impactful.
*And he literally rips Vision's brain out in front of his lover, The Scarlet Witch.

Thanos was an absolute beast in this movie. I don't know what else people wanted.
Thanos goal wasn't about murder--it was to complete his mission.

 

[Halge]

Just watched it. Will probably drop into this thread later on to discuss it some more, but short summary of my opinion is that it was a pretty great movie, that did an excellent job of putting so many characters into one movie without making a mess of it. Top three Marvel movie fo sho.
And obligatory comparison to Justice League:

Spoiler

Bwahahahaha!

 

[SmilinDesperado]

Another funny moment in the movie was when Banner was in the HulkBuster armor, and he's lining up for battle with the rest of Wakandans---he trips and falls in the armor, and the look of disgust that Okoye gives him gave me a chuckle.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Dude, the first night I needed a couple of hours to digest and accept what happened. A few times i was at denial when co workers and I were theorizing.

I woke up in the morning with a shock factor still embedded.

What cooled it off for me was the Doctor Strange theory going around. That he saw the outcome and felt this was the way ect ect.

Had I not read that or thought of that, I wouldve experienced it to the same agree all over again and not seen it the 2nd time emotionally clearer.

Honestly that theory for me makes the film more successful, the good guys actions make more sense and have a greater sense of self sacrifice to them. I don't think it will make the second film feel "cheap" either as its not really a twist so much as an explanation, the plot in the second film can still have a lot of weight to it.

I am interested in see were the Russo's go with in the sequel in terms of tone. I would argue that whilst yes this film did thrown in unexpected plot elements it was still in many ways exactly what most fans were hoping for, basically giving us a mix of all the various styles of the MCU in a big climax. That conclusion though I think actually offers the potential to go in a rather different direction for the sequel, I would argue that the audience is actually now primed for something a bit grittier than we've had from the MCU previously. The Russo's have included elements of that previously but I think here they could potentially do more, I mean you look at the cast they have now and its certainly not lacking in acting chops.

 

[MMouse]

Yeah, I think the only way to really combat this criticism, is to just make really strong, impactful scenes, like they did in IW.
And people DID die in the movie, so I don't know what the complaints are about.

I mean, a death that hasn't been really talked about much is Loki's. I wasn't even a big Loki fan, but how Thanos killed him...I was like "fuckkkk". He's holding Loki up in the air by the throat, Loki's legs are kicking as he's struggling to break free--life leaving his face, and Thanos is just slowly choking the life out of him in front of his brother.
*He kills Heimdal.
*The movie opens up with all the suriviving Asgardians dead.

*He grabs Gamorrah, someone he considers a daughter, and he throws her off a cliff to complete his quest.
*The scene where you think Tony is going to die
*HOW Peter reacted when he knew he was going was impactful.
*And he literally rips Vision's brain out in front of his lover, The Scarlet Witch.

Thanos was an absolute beast in this movie. I don't know what else people wanted.
Thanos goal wasn't about murder--it was to complete his mission.

I couldnt agree more. Well said

Im gonna copy and paste this if I ever see a complaint again

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Honestly for me though "shocking deaths" can often end up feeling a bit cheap. I mean something like the Red Wedding works because we see the impact it has on other characters but just killing for the sake of it is not IMHO good writing, Spock's death in Wrath of Khan for example works because it plays into the deconstruction of Kirk cheating death rather than facing it.

I mean yeah the Russo's must have known the audience would think "well this is going to be reversed somehow" yet that doesn't stop the situation from being played to have an impact on the characters involved.

 

[Halge]

I'm all about Brie Larson so I'm pretty amped for that Captain Marvel movie.

Sick to see she's clearly going to have a big role in Infinity War 2.

Makes me kinda wonder what her power level is. The scene make it out like she's Furys ultimate doomsday weapon.

 

[MMouse]

Honestly that theory for me makes the film more successful, the good guys actions make more sense and have a greater sense of self sacrifice to them. I don't think it will make the second film feel "cheap" either as its not really a twist so much as an explanation, the plot in the second film can still have a lot of weight to it.

I am interested in see were the Russo's go with in the sequel in terms of tone. I would argue that whilst yes this film did thrown in unexpected plot elements it was still in many ways exactly what most fans were hoping for, basically giving us a mix of all the various styles of the MCU in a big climax. That conclusion though I think actually offers the potential to go in a rather different direction for the sequel, I would argue that the audience is actually now primed for something a bit grittier than we've had from the MCU previously. The Russo's have included elements of that previously but I think here they could potentially do more, I mean you look at the cast they have now and its certainly not lacking in acting chops.

I agree 100%

I trust the Russos and Kevin too do their best to meet our expectations while staying on the right track and not being misguided in the films direction and organically progress it as the cinematic universe expands. They know how we all felt after the movie and im 100% positive they know were to steer our emotions going into and out of A4 before transitioning to the next phase.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Makes me kinda wonder what her power level is. The scene make it out like she's Furys ultimate doomsday weapon.

Ah that's what the signal at the end was I take it?

I'm guessing perhaps that long term this character might be like Thor? takes part in the bigger Avengers films but not the smaller ones?

 

[Halge]

I'm guessing perhaps that long term this character might be like Thor? takes part in the bigger Avengers films but not the smaller ones?

Wouldn't know. I do know that if both Natalie Portman and Valkyrie is out of the picture for good, Thor might end up banging her. She's literally the only female in the franchise that wouldn't break.

I'm not even kidding. I think the script writers are going to pair them up.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

I agree 100%

I trust the Russos and Kevin too do their best to meet our expectations while staying on the right track and not being misguided in the films direction and organically progress it as the cinematic universe expands. They know how we all felt after the movie and im 100% positive they know were to steer our emotions going into and out of A4 before transitioning to the next phase.

You do kind of get the sense the Russo's have always wanted to take things more in that direction but have had to keep within the bounds of the MCU's typical tone yet I think at this point audiences would likely accept and perhaps even demand things go rather more in that direction.

Generally I think people don't give them enough credit as writters personally, this film relative to Ultron was I think an excellent dominstration of that, Wheadon's film had good moments to it but didn't come together as well dispite having to deal with much less. Welcome to Collingwood is I think a very underrated film that IMHO holds up to similar Coen brothers work showing a gift for comedy and drama.

 

[MMouse]

Honestly for me though "shocking deaths" can often end up feeling a bit cheap. I mean something like the Red Wedding works because we see the impact it has on other characters but just killing for the sake of it is not IMHO good writing, Spock's death in Wrath of Khan for example works because it plays into the deconstruction of Kirk cheating death rather than facing it.

I mean yeah the Russo's must have known the audience would think "well this is going to be reversed somehow" yet that doesn't stop the situation from being played to have an impact on the characters involved.

It was good for the moment and the way it was delivered.

Ofcourse after digesting it, theorizing the purpose and reasons as to why it happened, followed by theories outside the movie barrier (such as saying spiderman/black panther/doctor strange have upcoming sequels so theres no way they got killed off), it wont feel and look the same as it did the first time around.

But what matters at the end of the day is its first moment impactful experience.