Movies AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR Thread v.9

[Bald1]

.... MCU owes at least enough debt to it that they would respect it enough to not talk sh*t about it on their holiday.

Oh man this is comedy gold right here. Holiday? Lol.

 

[chickenluver]

Oh man this is comedy gold right here. Holiday? Lol.

Instead of a safe space it's a safe day.

 

[minute bull]

Don't say safe day.

It only doubles my harder.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

The roots of the MCU's success are more in Richard Donner's Superman, Tim Burton's Batman, and especially Sam Raimi's Spiderman. They showed that there was a huge audience for these movies.

Honestly looking back it seems a bit strange that Hollywood was anti comic adpatations for so long, I mean a lot of blockbusters have covered very pulpy material haven't they and even earlier films like Batman arguably ended up more as an exersize in the directors style with a strong ironic detachment.

 

[minute bull]

Honestly looking back it seems a bit strange that Hollywood was anti comic adpatations for so long, I mean a lot of blockbusters have covered very pulpy material haven't they and even earlier films like Batman arguably ended up more as an exersize in the directors style with a strong ironic detachment.

Technology was nowhere near the point of adequately depicting comic book spectacle until the last ten years. Studios couldn't go by a track record, so barely a few would go out on a limb -- to varying degrees of failure. Also, it took some time for the comic book generation to age into the film industry after arguably the height of its popularity in the 90s.

 

[Bald1]

Instead of a safe space it's a safe day.

I wrote out a detailed post about the SW universe, but don't want to derail this thread further. Will only say this - Four decent movies in the span of 4 decades and a bunch of uninspired and dull print media does not awe me as much as it does some other people.

 

[heavyarms21]

Just saw it. I think I went in with my expectations too high (because some parts really bugged me) but I can't deny that it gave me something I value highly in super hero movies: characters that I'm absolutely riveted by when they're not fighting. I wish the plot would have turned a few more cliches on their heads and was less goofy at times, but it was still strong.

Here are my complaints:

Spoiler

Quill freeing Thanos because he was a fucking idiot. I hate it when characters act stupid for no reason.

That stupid Wakanda / mass army fight scene. I think I may have found the first "giant CGI army fight scene" I ever saw entertaining. Every one I've seen after that... a waste of time.

Thor withstanding the might of a star, doesn't get badly burned or have his hair/clothing incinerate.

Iron Man getting hit with a planet.

People not dying before the mass murder of the cosmos. I really wanted bad shit to happen to good people, but they all miraculously survived what would have been satisfying deaths. Sometimes they did so in cartoonish ways, such as when Tony freezes up his gaping stab wound.

Dr. Strange sacrificing the stone gem to save Tony; Gamora sacrificing the soul gem to save Nebula. I know Strange gave the line, "This is how it has to go" but I would have liked one person to make the hard choices. Especially when Strange promised not to prioritize anyone over the gem. One thing Marvel has impressed me with, in its really good movies, is subverting cliches and expectations. They did no such thing in this movie.

Towards the end, I was just overwhelmed by how cartoony the fights were. They were great until they started fighting Thanos on Titan and kept going downhill until I was pretty bored in Wakanda. But I guess the movie was a three-hour fight scene and they kept it entertaining enough.

All in all, I had a damn good time, but am surprised to say that I will not watch it in theatres a second time. There are a few other Marvel movies that are better than this one and have more rewatchability, imo.

For Thor , there is precedent of his magical weapons healing him. MJolnir restored his wounds after he was proven worthy again in the 1st Movie and this is the first time he would have wielded Strombreaker and the dwarf commented he needed Axe implying that it could restore him

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Technology was nowhere near the point of adequately depicting comic book spectacle until the last ten years. Studios couldn't go by a track record, so barely a few would go out on a limb -- to varying degrees of failure. Also, it took some time for the comic book generation to age into the film industry after arguably the height of its popularity in the 90s.

The original Superman films weren't really that bad FX wise though were they? good enough for audiences at the time. You have a lot of potential adaptations like Batman which could have happened along time before they did.

You could argue I spose superheroes had a very camp reputation to them with the Adam West Batman and many of the cartoons of thje 60's and 70's. Ironically I spose Marvel actually moved somewhat back towards the camp away from the overly serious focus of the Batman and X-men films of the 00's.

 

[PRIDEWASBETTER]

The burnt glove was a sign of exertion from the IG. It’s not an endless supply of power unlike the comics. So he can’t just keep snapping killing them and bringing them back and back and forth.

I'm glad they made it that way.

 

[Deleted member 429137]

For Thor , there is precedent of his magical weapons healing him. MJolnir restored his wounds after he was proven worthy again in the 1st Movie and this is the first time he would have wielded Strombreaker and the dwarf commented he needed Axe implying that it could restore him

I understand that.

Spoiler

I'm talking about his hair and clothing being unharmed from being exposed to the surface of a sun. And his new eye. I don't feel like all of those things should have been impervious.

I'll accept the magic weapon healing him and restoring those things, but this bugged me a great deal because they (and Thor) showed only cosmetic damage.

Spoiler

The surface of a fucking sun.

 

[minute bull]

Ironically I spose Marvel actually moved somewhat back towards the camp away from the overly serious focus of the Batman and X-men films of the 00's.

I wouldn't go so far as to say the MCU is camp, not even in the vicinity. The closest it comes is being self-aware, but Feige and Company are being as sincere and earnest as possible. These are geared to include children as well as aged fans, so yeah there's going to be reduced stakes and intensity. Soft, sure. Camp, nah.

 

[ufcfan4]

You have lost all credibility rating the worst star wars in history over this epic film. People are fucking weird.

LJ has so many fucking plot holes its crazy, has a terrible story with some of the shittiest writing ive seen in any film not just star wars but somehow its better that IW

I found The Last Jedi pretty entertaining while watching. But I really don't feel the desire to see it again.

Meanwhile, when I left Infinity War, I wanted to see it again then and there.

For me, the highest highs of The Last Jedi can't touch the highlights of Infinity War. Honestly in terms of involving, action spectacle, I thought Infinity War made TLJ look pretty bush league by comparison. I also thought Snoke and Ren were two of the more entertaining, well done aspects of the movie, and Thanos put them to shame in terms of quality of villain.

I think the issue I have with TLJ is that the more you think about it, the more readily apparent the flaws are. Like the Yoda scene. I was so amped to see those two characters interacting again, but why the hell is Yoda like, "forget the Ancient texts, they don't hold anything that Rey doesn't already know." WTF, how shortsighted and crazy is that? And that's just one that jumps out. All the Laura Dern craziness and the Finn/Rose subplot and what not- we've dissected this ad nauseum. So yeah, the more you think about it, the more you notice the flaws.

With Infinity War, the more I've thought about it, the more I think it was phenomenal.

 

[Fatt Hughes]

In TLJ, the writers created a cheap plot side story to give an excuse to go to a casino planet so the asian girl who sold no toys can educate us on the rich. Fuck TLJ.

 

[Headkicktoleg]

I wish there was a scene after Thanos snapped his fingers where they are in a delivery room and a baby is just born and the doc says "It's a beautiful baby bo..."and then the baby disappears.

 

[minute bull]

I wish there was a scene after Thanos snapped his fingers where y'all talking about TLJ in the INFINITY WAR thread shut up about it and take it back to the other thread.

 

[heavyarms21]

I understand that.

Spoiler

I'm talking about his hair and clothing being unharmed from being exposed to the surface of a sun. And his new eye. I don't feel like all of those things should have been impervious.

I'll accept the magic weapon healing him and restoring those things, but this bugged me a great deal because they (and Thor) showed only cosmetic damage.

Spoiler

The surface of a fucking sun.

... A dying Sun . Plus this Hints to Thors true durability, and ode to the Comics. Also he also survived Thanos blowing up the rest of this ship with the Power Stone itself .

 

[minute bull]

Joe wanna see dat Scandi Mandangle-low.

 

[IamStryker]

People not dying before the mass murder of the cosmos. I really wanted bad shit to happen to good people, but they all miraculously survived what would have been satisfying deaths. Sometimes they did so in cartoonish ways, such as when Tony freezes up his gaping stab wound.

People did die before the mass murder

Loki
Heimdall
Gamora
Vision

 

[Deleted member 110072]

I wouldn't go so far as to say the MCU is camp, not even in the vicinity. The closest it comes is being self-aware, but Feige and Company are being as sincere and earnest as possible. These are geared to include children as well as aged fans, so yeah there's going to be reduced stakes and intensity. Soft, sure. Camp, nah.

You can be emotionally sincere in a camp setting of course although clearly Marvel aren't anywhere near as camp as West's Batman or indeed even Burtons version they have arguably shifted a bit back in that direction after the very overt seriousness of Singers X-men, Lee's Hulk and Nolan's Batman. Those films felt like they were specifically a reaction against the camp way superheroes had been depicted in the past and whilst yeah I felt they were interesting you could also argue they were also rather going against the nature of the original material.

The MCU bar perhaps the Norton Hulk doesn't feel like its cinema with a point to prove in that fashion, just concerned with its own quality. Perhaps tied into that as well I think a defining aspect of there films is the idea that big heroes need big personalties, hence hiring actors with very strong screen presence and allowing them to show it rather than Bale like character performances.

 

[Tabarnakos]

I wish there was a scene after Thanos snapped his fingers where they are in a delivery room and a baby is just born and the doc says "It's a beautiful baby bo..."and then the baby disappears.