AVENGERS: ENDGAME (Dragonlord's Review)

[Khabibs Tiramisu]

I don't quite grasp the acrimony against Cameron, although I do recall he rubbed a bunch of people the wrong way after his acceptance speech for TITANIC. It's like he's being punished for being a nerd about his own film and quoting it -- which he again did for AVATAR ("I'm the king of the world/I see you"). But it's really weird to me that he's delivered unquestionable some of Sherdog's favorite films yet he's made out to be some egomaniac. Which I admit that he is, but every director is and there have been far greater les enfants terribles on a much lesser scale of artistry. I used to think, like with AVATAR being the top dog, he was hated simply because he's moved the needle farther than most directors. But yeah, hate.

i don't think a lot of avengers fans hate him, it's just that most of us feel that avengers deserve this win. endgame's story was much better than Avatar and it's obvious that Avatar benefited greatly from the introduction of 3D technology. Cameron is still a genius though and has pushed boundaries in film making, but like some people are saying, you can go talk to those who watched Avatar before and you can guarantee that they won't even remember who the characters are. I haven't seen anyone tell me how awesome Avatar's story was, even for those who watched it multiple times.

What MCU did in the past 10+ years has been phenomenal storytelling, then ending it with Endgame is just a masterful move from MCU. I really think MCU deserves this win against Avatar.

 

[Khabibs Tiramisu]

So is it guaranteed to beat Avatar, not likely, or we don't know?

according to this article:

"Presuming a continued 30/70 domestic/overseas split, the film should have around $2.697 billion worldwide by the end of today and thus should pass $2.7 billion tomorrow. Taking into account the frankly best-case-scenario box office of Aladdin over the last week, along with the possible global monster mash that is Rocketman and King of the Monsters, an $818 million domestic total on Sunday and a continued 30/70 split will give Avengers: Endgame $2.735 billion by the end of the weekend. That’s all spitball math, but $2.788 billion is still within the realm of possibility."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottm...men-star-wars-disney-box-office/#35c1d17ea17d

 

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i don't think a lot of avengers fans hate him, it's just that most of us feel that avengers deserve this win. endgame's story was much better than Avatar and it's obvious that Avatar benefited greatly from the introduction of 3D technology. Cameron is still a genius though and has pushed boundaries in film making, but like some people are saying, you can go talk to those who watched Avatar before and you can guarantee that they won't even remember who the characters are. I haven't seen anyone tell me how awesome Avatar's story was, even for those who watched it multiple times.

What MCU did in the past 10+ years has been phenomenal storytelling, then ending it with Endgame is just a masterful move from MCU. I really think MCU deserves this win against Avatar.

That sounds like "ENDGAME should be number one because I like the story more." Am I wrong? Too reductionist?

Like you I haven't seen anyone defend AVATAR anywhere close as zealously as it's been shat upon, which is another reason I don't get the fervor (or anti-fervor, I guess). Usually, such intensity is triggered by some kind of prompt or statement, but here the catalyst seems to be nothing but the number one rank .... which is not, I have to say, anything defined by the film itself.

People bought the tickets -- why take its box office performance out on the film? How about adding INFINITY WAR's and ENDGAME's performances together? Surely that would supersede AVATAR, right?

 

[ModernMatt]

Loved this film gave it a 9/10 but have people talked about the dumb shit in the film?

1.Just forgiving ronan after killing all those people like he didnt need to be locked up
2. Tony being able to handly all the stones to bring everyone back. Shit quill only had one and they said that he needed to be more than human to wield it.
3. The snap from the comics was more of a show you how easy it is. He didnt need to snap his fingers. Thought it was amzingly stupid that thanos needed to close he hands to use the gems. Like is there a button on the glove to make it work?
4. captain marvel handling the hand with all the gems but thanos has to switch a gem to the other hand to make it work wtf?
5. cool tony switched the glove but realistically you dont think thanos wouldnt of felt all the power leave his hand.
6. Its cool they want to bring everyone back but what about all the people that moved and started new lives now thats an awkward moment. sorry i had two more kids since you were gone.

I just roll with the assumption he's not touching it with his body/skin. He has some kind of incredible insulation going on with that suit.

How else could his delicate body handle the stress of the things he does...the hits, the falls ...I mean from avengers 1 that miles fall from getting rid of the bomb. He should be a pile of blood and goop inside that untouched iron suit.

I just assume some kind of unfathomable insulation going on. Guys a genius, he must have worked it out. Shit, he figured out time travel.

Every stone reacts differently when touched. Like the Ether (Reality stone) that Jane had from Thor: Dark World. Her touching it and Quill touching the Power stone had two different reactions.

One of my only concerns is why the Red Skull was transported when he touched the Tesseract (Space stone) but yet others who have did not teleport elsewhere. It could maybe because Red Skull wanted another stone (Soul) and it teleport him there??

 

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One of my only concerns is why the Red Skull was transported when he touched the Tesseract (Space stone) but yet others who have did not teleport elsewhere. It could maybe because Red Skull wanted another stone (Soul) and it teleport him there??

I believe the lore established therein is there must be a grave exchange for the soul stone, without which untold dangers befall you. Or you get stuck in nowheresville for the rest of your weirdo German life. Stands to reason Red Skull doesn't love anything that he's willing to sacrifice. Maybe, I dunno.

 

[emceeGRENDEL]

I saw it again on Memorial Day in a packed theater.

Same here. I thought it would be practically empty, but even the floor seats had some rows filled. Pretty crazy being that this has been out for a little over a month now

 

[Amerikuracana]

I think we all went overboard at first.

 

[Fugazy]

Idk dawg, I have a hard time believing that the most technologically advanced country in the world lives in secret in the middle of the biggest third world continent in the world lmao.

Yeah it's almost like it's an entirely made up world from a comic book or something.

But a man morphing into an city crushing mean green giant, and teaming up with the god of thunder who flies about with an enchanted hammer and a dude in a bionic super jet suit is so very believable.

 

[Corona]

Yeah it's almost like it's an entirely made up world from a comic book or something.

But a man morphing into an city crushing mean green giant, and teaming up with the god of thunder who flies about with an enchanted hammer and a dude in a bionic super jet suit is so very believable.

I’d believe in the infinity gems actually existing before I ever believe that the most advanced country in the world is located in Africa.

 

[Mangar]

Superhero movies (nowadays anyway) are usually pretty meh. You know your going to get a shit story and lots of explosions. You will have a great experience if you have that mindset going into it.

 

[Fugazy]

I’d believe in the infinity gems actually existing before I ever believe that the most advanced country in the world is located in Africa.

Exactly.

You're showing your hand and its a real bad look.

So an imaginary city on a pile of incredible, essentially magical metal, filled with magic plants that transport you to another plane, and hidden with millions of square feet of stealth cloak is unbelievable only because it is in Africa? But it would be believable if it were in Europe and full of white people or in Asia and full of Asians... You're being obvious man.

Nevermind that humanity (or at least one branch) definitely evolved in Africa. Nevermind Egypt, the most impressive of all ancient cultures being in Africa. Nevermind the massive, wild, rugged and varied terrain that essentially cuts off certain regions from others in Africa allowing for some tribes and kingdoms to grow and spread while having very little contact with others...

Lol. You need to have an honest look inside yourself dude.

 

[Corona]

Exactly.

You're showing your hand and its a real bad look.

So an imaginary city on a pile of incredible, essentially magical metal, filled with magic plants that transport you to another plane, and hidden with millions of square feet of stealth cloak is unbelievable only because it is in Africa? But it would be believable if it were in Europe and full of white people or in Asia and full of Asians... You're being obvious man.

Nevermind that humanity (or at least one branch) definitely evolved in Africa. Nevermind Egypt, the most impressive of all ancient cultures being in Africa. Nevermind the massive, wild, rugged and varied terrain that essentially cuts off certain regions from others in Africa allowing for some tribes and kingdoms to grow and spread while having very little contact with others...

Lol. You need to have an honest look inside yourself dude.

uzy weren’t you trying to justify air balling a free throw over a 3 pointer. I think I speak for everyone when I say eat shit and shut the hell up. I’m not reading anything of that crap lmao.

 

[heavyarms21]

I’d believe in the infinity gems actually existing before I ever believe that the most advanced country in the world is located in Africa.

The most advanced civilization will be underwater , Atlantis , Book it.

 

[Fugazy]

uzy weren’t you trying to justify air balling a free throw over a 3 pointer. I think I speak for everyone when I say eat shit and shut the hell up. I’m not reading anything of that crap lmao.

There's already been a bevvy of posters pointing out how thinly veiled your post about Wakanda was. Try to stop being such a ho. It's a bad look.

 

[Corona]

There's already been a bevvy of posters pointing out how thinly veiled your post about Wakanda was. Try to stop being such a ho. It's a bad look.

lol at “bevvy” my bad I find it hilarious that the most powerful/advanced country in the fictional world is located in the shittiest continent in the factual real world. Comic universe or not, I find the irony hilarious. I would think the same if any fictional universe chose to make Mississippi and Alabama the most healthy, intelligent and LGBT friendly states in North America.

 

[Fugazy]

lol at “bevvy” my bad I find it hilarious that the most powerful/advanced country in the fictional world is located in the shittiest continent in the factual real world. Comic universe or not, I find the irony hilarious. I would think the same if any fictional universe chose to make Mississippi and Alabama the most healthy, intelligent and LGBT friendly states in North America.

You find it hilarious only because it is in Africa...Despite all the reasons it works just fine.

Have fun fighting for the right to be a bigot. Stay strong man.

 

[Corona]

You find it hilarious only because it is in Africa...Despite all the reasons it works just fine.

Have fun fighting for the right to be a bigot. Stay strong man.

Yeah only because Africa is a fucking war torn continent with almost no first world countries lmao. It’s not like Africa and the Middle East don’t actually harbor two of the most valuable assets in the real world(diamonds and oil) yet still are the two most violent/uncivilized regions on the planet. But sure I’m a bigot for thinking there’s irony in Wakandas lore lmao.

 

[minute bull]

Spoiler: Fun Stuff!

 

[D Train]

Same here. I thought it would be practically empty, but even the floor seats had some rows filled. Pretty crazy being that this has been out for a little over a month now

I was really surprised. I was just planning on showing up, but my friend had checked the seating chart and told it me was almost sold out! I jumped on and got a couple of tickets and they were very nearly sold out the night before the movie!

 

[Fugazy]

Yeah only because Africa is a fucking war torn continent with almost no first world countries lmao. It’s not like Africa and the Middle East don’t actually harbor two of the most valuable assets in the real world(diamonds and oil) yet still are the two most violent/uncivilized regions on the planet. But sure I’m a bigot for thinking there’s irony in Wakandas lore lmao.

That's Africa today.

Wakanda has roots going back centuries...

Again, Africa gave rise to Egypt. The longest dynasty and greatest ancient civilization known to man. At their heights they literally were living like they were a millennia ahead of lots of the people on Earth.

Please explain how in the realm of a comic book Wakanda being in Africa is so unbelieveable.

Before you do though, should really pull your skirt up man. Your bias is showing.