AVENGERS: ENDGAME (Dragonlord's Review)

[europe1]

This film was the nerdiest thing ever done.

But also... its just really jarring with its handling of tone. A character dies and the sad-music takes over but a minute later we're having jokes about Thor's blood being cheeseballs. Apocalyptic battle and then there is a Gurl Power montage. Lang encounters the aftermaths of genocide-earth (skillfully done) and then we get selfie Hulk. Its sort of impossible to buy the gravity of all these events when you continiously undermine them with fluffy sidebits like these.

Also, goddamn the emotionalism. Are they really trying to make us teary-eyed for freaking superheroes? That first quarter of the movie just felt stuffed with it.

"Heil Hydra" might be the funniest joke in the property's history though.

6/10 not as good as the previous Avengers thingy

 

[minute bull]

Lol at jim cameron

Nobody calls him that

He calls himself that.

Like, no joke: in work emails he'll refer to himself in the third person particularly when he's delegating duties -- like Fred needs to care of the billing, Jim will scout extra locations, Steve can go fuck himself. Due to his scuba training he also closes his emails with a phrase made insufferable by Ryan Seacrest: Jim out.

 

[Dinotective]

So are we taking bets on who the new openly gay superhero we already know is?? Russo’s can’t wait for the big reveal and the future of brilliant diversity in marvel movies.

Keep the faith boys it’s going to take out avatar.

I seem to recall reading that Iceman would partake is such activities.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Yup. Marvel will fall to the same shit Star Wars did. People don't want contemporsry politics in their escape fantasies. Don't get me wrong, politics has it's place in film, just not in these films.

I think you could almost argue the reverse, people are ok with politics in blockbusters BUT only if it has some substance to it and helps build dramatic tension as a result. The Starwars sequels really aren't very political films, there films that grandstand on simplistic "empowerment" whilst actually avoiding presenting the characters with any real political issues of substance.

With the MCU by comparison you have say Steve Rogers starting off as a "good solider" following orders and moving towards becoming an individual taking responsibility for his own moral choices and rebelling against a corrupt military order when needed.

You'll maybe get away with one film like Captain Marvel but the sequels are going to need to introduce some substance to the character if she's going to retain popularity.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

So are we taking bets on who the new openly gay superhero we already know is?? Russo’s can’t wait for the big reveal and the future of brilliant diversity in marvel movies.

Keep the faith boys it’s going to take out avatar.

Groot will fall for a hansom oak rather than a willow.

 

[emceeGRENDEL]

yooooo can i steal that last thor one?

 

[PRIDEWASBETTER]

So are we taking bets on who the new openly gay superhero we already know is?? Russo’s can’t wait for the big reveal and the future of brilliant diversity in marvel movies.

Keep the faith boys it’s going to take out avatar.

It's Hercules. I thought everybody knew this.

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

Black Panther was critically acclaimed both by critics and the fans, is one of the highest grossing Marvel movies and got great reviews on sherdog as well. I don't know why a select few posters are trying to spin a different narrative. It was a massive success on all fronts.

I think some people just have a different opinion. They aren't 'spinning a narrative'.

I thought it was absolute dogshit as a movie, but I can see why it made a lot of people happy.

 

[Mike]

This film was the nerdiest thing ever done.

But also... its just really jarring with its handling of tone. A character dies and the sad-music takes over but a minute later we're having jokes about Thor's blood being cheeseballs. Apocalyptic battle and then there is a Gurl Power montage. Its sort of impossible to buy the gravity of all these events when you continiously undermine them with fluffy sidebits like these.

Also, goddamn the emotionalism. Are they really trying to make us teary-eyed for freaking superheroes? That first quarter of the movie just felt stuffed with it.

"Heil Hydra" might be the funniest joke in the property's history though.

6/10 not as good as the previous Avengers thingy

Why wouldn't we feel an emotional connection to the characters after like 20 movies?

I thought that tone was earned. Vision, Widow, Gamora, Tony, Loki, Quicksilver etc are all dead and not coming back.

 

[MikeMcMann]

I think some people just have a different opinion. They aren't 'spinning a narrative'.

I thought it was absolute dogshit as a movie, but I can see why it made a lot of people happy.

You can pretty clearly track that many of those who hated it after seeing it where the same ones hating on it before it even came out assuming a lot of SJW stuff and self validating when watching it.

Remove those people and the overwhelming vast majority really enjoyed it.

 

[TrueBias]

it still has a flair of elitist to it. Cameron sounds like a toolbag.

Maybe im wrong, but him addressing it sounds like hes triggered by it

No it does not. Its respect.

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

You can pretty clearly track that many of those who hated it after seeing it where the same ones hating on it before it even came out assuming a lot of SJW stuff and self validating when watching it.

Remove those people and the overwhelming vast majority really enjoyed it.

I actually enjoyed the Black Panther comics. He was a badass in The Civil War series. I felt he lost all the humour in transitioning to film and without the sword and the cape he felt very bland scrstching at everyone with his little claws.

But the movie itself was just atrocious: Awful acting, horrid fight scenes, outdated CGI... The costumes were good and I thought Michael B. Jordan was great as he is in most stuff.

I actually think thw argument you made works but in reverse. People wanted to like it so bad that they ignored all the flaws because they were worried if they didn't like it people would think they were racist or the racists would win or something.

I know my reputation among the liberal posters here but my wife just watched Ger Out for the second time last week and we both loved it even more the second time.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

 

[Dizzy]

it still has a flair of elitist to it. Cameron sounds like a toolbag.

Maybe im wrong, but him addressing it sounds like hes triggered by it

It's a tradition

 

[blaseblah]

I actually enjoyed the Black Panther comics. He was a badass in The Civil War series. I felt he lost all the humour in transitioning to film and without the sword and the cape he felt very bland scrstching at everyone with his little claws.

But the movie itself was just atrocious: Awful acting, horrid fight scenes, outdated CGI... The costumes were good and I thought Michael B. Jordan was great as he is in most stuff.

I actually think thw argument you made works but in reverse. People wanted to like it so bad that they ignored all the flaws because they were worried if they didn't like it people would think they were racist or the racists would win or something.

I know my reputation among the liberal posters here but my wife just watched Ger Out for the second time last week and we both loved it even more the second time.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Sherdog is filled with conservative leaning folks. There are constant rants about minorities and SJWs popping up all the time. Worrying about being seen as racist is the last thing folks on here are worried about. People liked the film, deal with it.

Sometimes a good movie is just a good movie. And Black Panther satisfies every single criteria.

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

Sherdog is filled with conservative leaning folks. There are constant rants about minorities and SJWs popping up all the time. Worrying about being seen as racist is the last thing folks on here are worried about. People liked the film, deal with it.

You are the one wigging out because someone has a different opinion than you on a stupid comic book movie.

I suggest you deal with whatever weird issues you have and stop projecting them on others.

 

[blaseblah]

You are the one wigging out because someone has a different opinion than you on a stupid comic book movie.

I suggest you deal with whatever weird issues you have and stop projecting them on others.

You're the one claiming people who say they loved the movie secretly hated it. You're literally projecting. You could've said you didn't like it and moved on.

 

[emceeGRENDEL]

have at it

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

You're the one claiming people who say they loved the movie secretly hated it. You're literally projecting. You could've said you didn't like it and moved on.

Cool story bro.

 

[MikeMcMann]

I actually enjoyed the Black Panther comics. He was a badass in The Civil War series. I felt he lost all the humour in transitioning to film and without the sword and the cape he felt very bland scrstching at everyone with his little claws.

But the movie itself was just atrocious: Awful acting, horrid fight scenes, outdated CGI... The costumes were good and I thought Michael B. Jordan was great as he is in most stuff.

I actually think thw argument you made works but in reverse. People wanted to like it so bad that they ignored all the flaws because they were worried if they didn't like it people would think they were racist or the racists would win or something.

I know my reputation among the liberal posters here but my wife just watched Ger Out for the second time last week and we both loved it even more the second time.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

No. That may be the case with you but it definitely does not work in reverse in that most of the people hating on it after, on this forum anyway where the ones optimistic and not complaining about it prior. There is pretty direct correlation between those bitching it about it prior and those hating it after.

The comic (liking or not) really has no correlation as all the SJW and flip side of SJW (those who complain every it SJW) was not really a thing back then so people could view the material without that bias.

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

No. That may be the case with you but it definitely does not work in reverse in that most of the people hating on it after, on this forum anyway where the ones optimistic and not complaining about it prior. There is pretty direct correlation between those bitching it about it prior and those hating it after.

The comic (liking or not) really has no correlation as all the SJW and flip side of SJW (those who complain every it SJW) was not really a thing back then so people could view the material without that bias.

So I only liked Black Panther in 2006 because SJWs weren't a thing yet?