Austria Bans Burqa, Introduces Mandatory Integration Courses

[JonnyRingo84]

This is true but the Burka is being forced on the country the country is not forcing them to eat a national dish of pork sausages

whoa whoa whoa

who is forcing the burqa on anyone in austria?

 

[JonnyRingo84]

I really don't think asking that people show their face while walking around in public is a rights issue but rather a law and order / security issue

how on earth is it not both?

 

[Space]

The hijab should be against school dress codes in every school as well.

 

[drstrangelov]

I was in Austria for a conference back in March, as part of the introduction they apologized for the holocaust.

 

[Bald1]

Someone wants to visit or live in my house they either abide my rules or do not enter. Whether in already or not it's the same and non conditional.

I've made this analogy many many times. The rebuttal? Something something constitution. To which I reply - citizens have rights, visitors have revokable privileges.

Cue dance off..

 

[mon]

whoa whoa whoa

who is forcing the burqa on anyone in austria?

They're forcing their use of it on the countries people. If the country finds it offensive and you wear it, you are forcing it on the country.

 

[Bargey]

how on earth is it not both?

Well you can call it a rights issue but it's not a compelling argument.

 

[RIPWarrior]

Is diversity really a strength when a country has to do this and when its people rush out to buy guns for protection?

 

[Space]

I was in Austria for a conference back in March, as part of the introduction they apologized for the holocaust.

"Our behavior during the war was unacceptable and you must never, ever let me forget it!"

 

[mon]

I've made this analogy many many times. The rebuttal? Something something constitution. To which I reply - citizens have rights, visitors have revokable privileges.

Cue dance off..

I think the Ringo guy @JonnyRingo84 is misinterpreted as some of his stuff isn't what people make out. By the same token I also think he's just an argumentative bloke who likes an argument. No worries.

For me he's already stated he agrees with the ID problems (as close as an argumentative person gets to agreement anyway) push it through on that reasoning is it makes him feel better, whatever. To me it's rude and potentially dangerous

 

[RIPWarrior]

How soon do you think it will be before Austria was always diverse and multicultural?

 

[Bald1]

I think the Ringo guy @JonnyRingo84 is misinterpreted as some of his stuff isn't what people make out. By the same token I also think he's just an argumentative bloke who likes an argument. No worries.

For me he's already stated he agrees with the ID problems (as close as an argumentative person gets to agreement anyway) push it through on that reasoning is it makes him feel better, whatever. To me it's rude and potentially dangerous

Yeah, we've talked several times and I don't think he's an apologist. Where he and I usually disagree is he looks at the Abrahamic faiths from a historic perspective, while I'm more concerned about this century. All in all there are much more unreasonable people to chat with.

I believe in the very brief, and apt saying "when in Rome..", or my house my rules.

 

[uppercutbus]

No people aren't "free to wear what they want". There is no law in any first world country stating that.

Non-muslims aren't allowed to supersede strict dress codes for work and wear a simple head covering like a hijab, even for non-safety reasons, which is why France ruled Muslims don't get to supersede them for work either.

Non-muslims aren't allowed to wear full face coverings, which is why France banned the Burka. Muslims shouldn't get special treatment and allowed to cover their face and drive and shit whilst everyone else doesn't. Your deeply held religious beliefs or customs can fuck off.

 

[JonnyRingo84]

They're forcing their use of it on the countries people. If the country finds it offensive and you wear it, you are forcing it on the country.

does anyone else think the whole "im offended" thing is bs? in most contexts?

what it really is, imo, is "i dont agree with what this person is doing, and i want them to change." thats not being offended.

and even if you are offended over a burqa, man the F up. you probably have more important shit to worry about.

 

[mon]

does anyone else think the whole "im offended" thing is bs? in most contexts?

what it really is, imo, is "i dont agree with what this person is doing, and i want them to change." thats not being offended.

and even if you are offended over a burqa, man the F up. you probably have more important shit to worry about.

Interesting, how about we apply this logic in reverse. I say this to immigrants wanting to change my country and all I get is "I'm offended" bs.

I'm glad to hear you're on my side with these fundamentalists saying "I don't agree with how your society wants to live and we want you to change your views" luckily you agree that's not being offended.

 

[RIPWarrior]

and even if you are offended over a burqa, man the F up. you probably have more important shit to worry about.

Letting foreigners walk all over your country and its people is really manly.

 

[Deleted member 196663]

Is diversity really a strength when a country has to do this and when its people rush out to buy guns for protection?

Diversity is a very very general word, just as uniformity is. Unless you get specific you are really just talking nonesense.

 

[JonnyRingo84]

immigrants wanting to change my country

when did this come up? how did you jump to this in our convo?

how is a person wearing a burqa an example of them wanting to change your country? its plausible that some might want to do that, but id wager that most are just wearing the clothing that they want to wear.

I'm glad to hear you're on my side with these fundamentalists saying "I don't agree with how your society wants to live and we want you to change your views" luckily you agree that's not being offended.

i dont get it.

 

[JonnyRingo84]

Letting foreigners walk all over your country and its people is really manly.

give me an example.

how is someone wearing a burqa an example of being cucked by foreigners?

 

[evansusmc2]

Pfft English. The language of the racists!

I'm talking about Arabic and Punjabi. Those kinds of languages. It's extremely disrespectful to not lean the language of immigrants coming into your privileged country.

Says you!

Oh and Arabic countries are more racist than America easily.