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Assited suicide and Pulling the Plug.

If you kill yourself, wills go out the door completely and the family isn't eligible to inheritance from my understanding

Are you sure about that?

Maybe a life insurance policy would be voided, but why would inheritance be stopped?
 
Are you sure about that?

Maybe a life insurance policy would be voided, but why would inheritance be stopped?

Not positive about that, just something I've been told.

Very well could be wrong
 
I completely agree people should be allowed to take there on life or have a provision in their will to allow someone else to "pull the plug" or have doctor assistance.

I hate getting police calls to attempted suicides. In my opinion someone wanting to kill themselves is not a public safety concern unless they are gonna jump into traffic or something
 
I completely agree people should be allowed to take there on life or have a provision in their will to allow someone else to "pull the plug" or have doctor assistance.

I hate getting police calls to attempted suicides. In my opinion someone wanting to kill themselves is not a public safety concern unless they are gonna jump into traffic or something

A guy that I worked with did that recently. He jumped from an overpass on to a main road. I'm glad that he didn't kill anybody else. He certainly could have. He should have been allowed to die peacefully and safely.
 
If the person really wants to die, why don't they just kill themselves? Never understood that.

I've talked to someone who decided that they were going to commit suicide. He said that all he wanted was a way that would be messy, and that wouldn't be painful.

He thought about shooting himself - too messy
He thought about hanging himself - again too messy, his family would have that image imprinted on their minds for life
He thought about gassing himself in his car - Messy. Ruin a perfectly good car, plus choking to death on CO would be pretty uncimfortable
He thought about intentionally crashing his car - again, ruin a perfectly good car, plus not a sure thing with airbags and stuff or if he lost control too early and went into a field or missed the tree or something. By all accounts he could lay there bleeding out painfully before he moved towards the light.

Anyway he chose pills, but woke up in a hospital instead of at the pearly gates.

He is still alive today (thank heavens) and is way past rock bottom.

Cliff - Suicide isn't as easy as people think. Especially for terminally ill (and subsequently physically weak) people. This is why there are advocates for a physician to help
 
A guy that I worked with did that recently. He jumped from an overpass on to a main road. I'm glad that he didn't kill anybody else. He certainly could have. He should have been allowed to die peacefully and safely.

Some people want to be remembered, and thus don't want to go quietly
 
Very interesting.

I don't know if I could live with myself if I did that, but then again I haven't seen the final agonizing stages of cancer, yet.

From what he told me, it usually happens when the patient is in so much pain that they are already incapacitated from the amount of narcotics they are taking. When their organs are in the process of shutting down, a slight "nudge" in the dosage will put them out of their misery.
 
It's a dreadful thing to say I know, but it would be better for her and everyone involved if my Grandma wasn't here anymore. She's withering away in a care home so full of Vascular Dementia 90% of what comes out of her mouth is gibberish. The 10% where she's lucid must be absolutely horrible for her.

I think when you make a will you should be able to put a clause in there about if such and such happens I'd like to be euthanised, please and thank you.
 
After watching my grandfather pass away my thoughts on this matter changed, I am in favor of doctor assisted suicide now.

My grandfather fought cancer 3 times had a stroke and was in the hospital with pneumonia and his lungs for filling quickly with fluids and over the course of 36 hours we had to watch him lose the ability to speak at all and die suffocating to death pretty much. It was the worst feeling when they told us the only thing they could do was make him comfortable and that he wouldn't survive the weekend especially after seeing him fight all his other illnesses. He had spent 39 days in the hospital with his stroke when they found his bladder cancer which was the 2nd time he had gotten cancer. He was fighting cancer a 3rd time when he passed away.
 
Also working in lots of health care facilities I have seen countless elderly people suffering from terminal illnesses with little to no quality of life. I think at some point if my life cannot be lived at a level with any quality, (brain damage, no motor skills or mental capicaty) I would be in favor of making that decision for myself. I know that is alot easier for me to say now at 24 as opposed to in 60 years possibily but thats just my views on the matter.
 
I think we could get rid of the whole "terminally ill" and "suffering" requirements and simply provide assisted suicide for anyone who is of age and deemed sane.

Doesn't mean we should pay for it necessarily, but provide the service.

I saw a documentary about a Swedish man who was paralyzed from the neck down. He wasn't dying, he just didn't want to live anymore. So he took a flight to Switzerland and got it done.
His family was there with him and it was really touching (he actually got married to his gf after the accident). I agree with him having a choice. It's his life.
 
Definately pro assisted suicide/euthanasia. Everyone's life is their own and they should be able to end if they choose to. Forcing someone to continue living who is suffering and has poor quality of life is just incredibly selfish.
 
If you own your own body you have every right to die if you so choose, whether you have a medical problem or not.

If the state owns your body, then suicide can be made illegal.

 
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I work in a teaching hospital. If you guys saw what happens to your loved ones the last weeks or even months of their lives you would be pretty upset. Your grandmother and grandfather are used as pin cushions by the greenest of doctors and medical students. The hospital will try to insert as many lines, drains, and tubes to prolong your life to make their outcomes look better. In addition to that a huge chunk of the Medicine ICU nurses are so desensitized and truly dont give a shit at all.

Yes I am all for assisted suicide.


I thought this was a good documentary

 
The documentary "Choosing to Die" with Terry Pratchett is very good too.
 
I work in a teaching hospital. If you guys saw what happens to your loved ones the last weeks or even months of their lives you would be pretty upset. Your grandmother and grandfather are used as pin cushions by the greenest of doctors and medical students. The hospital will try to insert as many lines, drains, and tubes to prolong your life to make their outcomes look better. In addition to that a huge chunk of the Medicine ICU nurses are so desensitized and truly dont give a shit at all.

Yes I am all for assisted suicide.

How do teaching hospitals work? Is it a cheaper option than regular hospitals? Why would patients want to be treated by inexperienced doctors and nurses?
 
There is definitely a big difference between the 2. To me, it is the same as the difference between not saving a person about to be run over by a bus... versus pushing the person in front of the bus.

In any event, I do think the assisted suicide should be legal... provided there are strict qualification guildlines. I will admit that I'm not sure exactly what those should be. Terminal illness that causes great pain is easy... but what about un-treatable issues that arent terminal in the near future, but cause a significant amount of pain and/or severly lowered quality of life?

Anyway, I just watched my aunt die of pancreatic cancer last year... and it was a tremendously drawn out and super painful/miserable way to eventually go. IMHO, the option of assisted suicide should have been an option for her.
 
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