Opinion As the rich get richer the answer is private giving and charities...

[jk7707]

Citizens' control of the military, federalism and limited government WERE American exceptionalism. In fact, the concepts that were supposed to make the US the exception to other forms of government were for the government to not keep secrets from the people, but the people can keep secrets from the government.

Mass surveillance and people you've never heard of spying on citizens, over 1 billion classified documents the people aren't allowed to see, and a military controlled by a few powerful people against the will of the people, isn't exceptional at all, and is basically what every evil regime in history has been.

So filling the incoming government with more billionaires and rich donors than ever before is going to fix that?

 

[nostradumbass]

So filling the incoming government with more billionaires and rich donors than ever before is going to fix that?

If they start declassifying documents and stop getting into wars against the will of the people, then yeah. Pete Hegseth isn't a billionaire, but making $400k still puts him in the same boat as most of the rest of the cabinet in that he doesn't need the job and is taking a pay cut to do it.

 

[Helden]

If they start declassifying documents and stop getting into wars against the will of the people, then yeah. Pete Hegseth isn't a billionaire, but making $400k still puts him in the same boat as most of the rest of the cabinet in that he doesn't need the job and is taking a pay cut to do it.

I love all this talk about how the MAGA cabinet are "taking a pay cut" while accepting billions from the Saudis...

 

[jk7707]

If they start declassifying documents and stop getting into wars against the will of the people, then yeah. Pete Hegseth isn't a billionaire, but making $400k still puts him in the same boat as most of the rest of the cabinet in that he doesn't need the job and is taking a pay cut to do it.

Sure. Pete Hegseth isn't a billionaire. He's also a complete joke and the least qualified candidate for Secretary of Defense in history. That doesn't excuse Trump for appointing billionaires to so many major cabinet positions in the government.

 

[nostradumbass]

Sure. Pete Hegseth isn't a billionaire. He's also a complete joke and the least qualified candidate for Secretary of Defense in history. That doesn't excuse Trump for appointing billionaires to so many major cabinet positions in the government.

Well I suppose so, since Hegseth is just a combat veteran with multiple bronze stars and an Ivy League education, but doesn't have the most important qualification of being on the board of Raytheon like our current defense secretary did, or the CIA agent Bush and Obama had as theirs, who then picked Raytheon's top lobbyist William Lynn as his deputy defense secretary.

 

[jk7707]

Well I suppose so, since Hegseth is just a combat veteran with multiple bronze stars and an Ivy League education, but doesn't have the most important qualification of being on the board of Raytheon like our current defense secretary did, or the CIA agent Bush and Obama had as theirs, who then picked Raytheon's top lobbyist William Lynn as his deputy defense secretary.

Ah yes, he's a combat veteran just like MILLIONS of other veterans. He's got an Ivy League education just like thousands of better qualified candidates.

I'd bet my retirement that anyone not named Pete Hegseth would have an easier path to being confirmed for a job they were actually qualified for.

 

[nostradumbass]

Ah yes, he's a combat veteran just like MILLIONS of other veterans. He's got an Ivy League education just like thousands of better qualified candidates.

I'd bet my retirement that anyone not named Pete Hegseth would have an easier path to being confirmed for a job they were actually qualified for.

Wait, you think there are thousands of people at Princeton and Harvard who also serve in combat? Get real, you just want it narrowed down the 15 people on the board of Raytheon. The "qualification" sure as hell isn't ever winning a war, because none of the losers and suckers any of them pick ever seem to have that qualification, it's pretty much just being on the board of defense contractors and the willingness to constantly start new wars that last decades and end with Al Qaeda and the Taliban opening more slave markets.

 

[ShadowRun]

Rich people bad ! they must of screwed someone over to be rich is the only conclusion .... reeee

 

[jk7707]

Wait, you think there are thousands of people at Princeton and Harvard who also serve in combat? Get real, you just want it narrowed down the 15 people on the board of Raytheon. The "qualification" sure as hell isn't ever winning a war, because none of the losers and suckers any of them pick ever seem to have that qualification, it's pretty much just being on the board of defense contractors and the willingness to constantly start new wars that last decades and end with Al Qaeda and the Taliban opening more slave markets.

No. I think there are thousands of people that have served in combat that aren't qualified to lead the Department of Defense. If you can't understand why a part time Fox News host isn't qualified to do that, then you are a complete cultist. Not that it was even in dispute at this point.

 

[nostradumbass]

No. I think there are thousands of people that have served in combat that aren't qualified to lead the Department of Defense. If you can't understand why a part time Fox News host isn't qualified to do that, then you are a complete cultist. Not that it was even in dispute at this point.

Yet for some reason you can't seem to list which qualifications you think are required that he's lacking, or why you find it so important that the defense secretary of a country that is supposed to have a citizen controlled military would need experience in investment banking, being on the board of defense contractors, or work in an agency that illegally spies on their own citizens and hide operations from the public. Those seem especially disqualifying, but for some reason you think those are the most important qualifications.

Awards, decorations, and badges​

	Combat Infantryman Badge
	Bronze Star (x2)
	Joint Service Commendation Medal
	Army Commendation Medal (x2)
	National Defense Service Medal
	Afghanistan Campaign Medal (with 2 service stars)
	Iraq Campaign Medal (with 2 service stars)
	Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal
	Global War on Terrorism Service Medal
	Armed Forces Reserve Medal (with bronze hourglass device)
	Army Service Ribbon
	Army Overseas Service Ribbon
	NATO Medal (ISAF)

 

[JBJisGOAT14]

Rich people bad ! they must of screwed someone over to be rich is the only conclusion .... reeee

Good lord you just have to simp for the rich and elite, it’s truly a mental illness. Seek help.

 

[ChosenOne]

If they start declassifying documents and stop getting into wars against the will of the people, then yeah. Pete Hegseth isn't a billionaire, but making $400k still puts him in the same boat as most of the rest of the cabinet in that he doesn't need the job and is taking a pay cut to do it.

I love all this talk about how the MAGA cabinet are "taking a pay cut" while accepting billions from the Saudis...

Yup 'taking a pay cut' is how some with minimal intelligence sees it as they think the income these people get in pay checks is their main income.

They take a pay cut on income while changing laws on corporate tax and capital gains and other that gains them billions and billions.

It is not a secret, as the rich proudly talk about how much richer they got in Trumps last term, but at the same time they count on magat marks to say and think these rich guys are losing money.

You can literally see that nostradumbass believes the ultra wealthy Trump is surrounding himself with are sacrificing to serve. that is how dumb magats are.

 

[ChosenOne]

Yet for some reason you can't seem to list which qualifications you think are required that he's lacking,...

Hegseth was given the chance to run small nonprofit groups dealing with Veterans issues and forced to step down from both those jobs due to incompetence...

He also has a well known binge drinking issue that he has allowed to impact him on the job... but has said 'only if given this job...he will quit drinking'... A job that requires him being available and sober and reachable 24/7 as he would be in the chain of command in any emergency situation.

Add to that his own mom very pointedly addressing with him the issues he has with women, the sexual assault allegations, and his own statements on women in the military...

And even if you say 'i don't buy a single one of these', the issue is that if you cannot find a person who does not bring those type of issues that is on you.

And there is more.

- recent revelation that Pete Hegseth had secretly paid a financial settlement to a woman who had accused him of raping her in 2017
- A trail of documents, corroborated by the accounts of former colleagues, indicates that Hegseth was forced to step down by both of the two nonprofit advocacy groups that he ran—Veterans for Freedom and Concerned Veterans for America—in the face of serious allegations of financial mismanagement, sexual impropriety, and personal misconduct.

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[jk7707]

Yet for some reason you can't seem to list which qualifications you think are required that he's lacking, or why you find it so important that the defense secretary of a country that is supposed to have a citizen controlled military would need experience in investment banking, being on the board of defense contractors, or work in an agency that illegally spies on their own citizens and hide operations from the public. Those seem especially disqualifying, but for some reason you think those are the most important qualifications.

Awards, decorations, and badges​

	Combat Infantryman Badge
	Bronze Star (x2)
	Joint Service Commendation Medal
	Army Commendation Medal (x2)
	National Defense Service Medal
	Afghanistan Campaign Medal (with 2 service stars)
	Iraq Campaign Medal (with 2 service stars)
	Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal
	Global War on Terrorism Service Medal
	Armed Forces Reserve Medal (with bronze hourglass device)
	Army Service Ribbon
	Army Overseas Service Ribbon
	NATO Medal (ISAF)

I dunno, maybe experience successfully running ANY organization whatsoever?

That's a start. The fact that you can't even admit that is genuinely sad.

 

[JBJisGOAT14]

I dunno, maybe experience successfully running ANY organization whatsoever?

That's a start. The fact that you can't even admit that is genuinely sad.

They don’t want honest answers or conversations, all just partisan gotcha type shit talking points. Imbeciles…

 

[nostradumbass]

Hegseth was given the chance to run small nonprofit groups dealing with Veterans issues and forced to step down from both those jobs due to incompetence...

He also has a well known binge drinking issue that he has allowed to impact him on the job...

Add to that his own mom very pointedly addressing with him the issues he has with women, the sexual assault allegations, and his own statements on women in the military...

And even if you say 'i don't buy a single one of these', the issue is that if you cannot find a person who does not bring those type of issues that is on you.

And there is more.

Lol at "even if you say you don't buy it", and then give your argument entirely dependent on buying fake smears. "We lost the election, so just pick someone that we want anyway and we won't make up fake stories about them" is not how anything works.



Unfortunately those fell apart already, just like they do when democrats try the exact same smears on every person they're trying to block. The New Yorker ran with more fake claims from anonymous sources who turned out to be disgruntled ex employees, so several people went on record saying not only are they untrue, several of the stories were shit the disgruntled ex employees did themselves, like trying to jump on stage with a stripper. They tried the same thing 9 years ago after he left CVA just because he was a Fox host, and the board of trustees already issued a letter debunking it.

The gross skank's story completely crumbled years ago when she made up the story. She got busted cheating on her husband with a TV star right down the hall from the room she was sharing with her husband and kids, tried the flimsy excuse that she fell asleep in a girlfriend's room, and then that fell apart when he asked her whose room and wanted some corroboration, so she switched it days later to claiming she was drugged and raped. The problem is she was seen by people at the bar, a hotel employee and on surveillance video completely sober, but jealous that Pete was flirting with another woman, and was throwing herself at him, and her husband also said she was completely sober when she got back to the room.

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

I dunno

You should have stopped right there.

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

So over a million people losing their jobs? Sounds about right considering his track record. A fitting legacy.

yes... they need to go.

• Treasury Department: 94,400 employees
• Department of Agriculture: 85,000 employees
• Department of Health and Human Services: 79,200 employees
• Department of the Interior: 61,900 employees
• Social Security Administration: 58,200 employees
• Department of Transportation: 53,100 employees
• Department of Commerce: 41,000 employees
• Department of Education: 5,000 employees

These numbers are basically indefensible. The other department may or may not need to be more selective.

 

[JBJisGOAT14]

Lol at "even if you say you don't buy it", and then give your argument entirely dependent on buying fake smears. "We lost the election, so just pick someone that we want anyway and we won't make up fake stories about them" is not how anything works.



Unfortunately those fell apart already, just like they do when democrats try the exact same smears on every person they're trying to block. The New Yorker ran with more fake claims from anonymous sources who turned out to be disgruntled ex employees, so several people went on record saying not only are they untrue, several of the stories were shit the disgruntled ex employees did themselves, like trying to jump on stage with a stripper. They tried the same thing 9 years ago after he left CVA just because he was a Fox host, and the board of trustees already issued a letter debunking it.

The gross skank's story completely crumbled years ago when she made up the story. She got busted cheating on her husband with a TV star right down the hall from the room she was sharing with her husband and kids, tried the flimsy excuse that she fell asleep in a girlfriend's room, and then that fell apart when he asked her whose room and wanted some corroboration, so she switched it days later to claiming she was drugged and raped. The problem is she was seen by people at the bar, a hotel employee and on surveillance video completely sober, but jealous that Pete was flirting with another woman, and was throwing herself at him, and her husband also said she was completely sober when she got back to the room.

Why would this pile of shit pay his rape accuser money to keep quiet??? Doesn’t add up. If you are truly innocent, you don’t pay money to keep that hush hush.

 

[ChosenOne]

Lol at "even if you say you don't buy it", and then give your argument entirely dependent on buying fake smears. ...

What proof do you have that they are "Fake smears"... since you are stating that as if fact?

It is possible you are correct but it is also possible you are wrong, and what happens to one of the most vital agencies in gov't if you are wrong and a drunken abuser who could not run two charities for veterans gets in?

Do you say "oops"!