Media Ariel Vs. Schaub Mega Thread

[MGS]

Even when I used to like Schaub I knew he was stealing his takes from Luke, it was so obvious.

This makes me so happy. FINALLY someone speaks out about that bozo, Brendan Schaub is a phony and has been for YEARS. Ariel has my blessing.

 

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Schaub having an original thought of his own?

The mistake Ariel makes is the same reason he priced himself out of ESPN.

He tries to validate his own projected weight far too much. He's like the Forrest Griffin of MMA media. He made it far beyond his natural abilities should allow because he's a hard worker and made it big partly because talent was low and partly because of good fortune. And that's not a shot at Ariel or Griffin. Ariel worked his way to the face of independent MMA journalism since the beginning, which is huge, but 'independent MMA' is about his limit. Showtime and ESPN dumped him as soon as they could, and even if it was primarily Dana, it doesn't matter. He's back to his Youtube platform and that's good enough.

But this 10th 'final rebuttal' against his enemies in Schaub and Rogan is so self-destructive it's got to be ironic at this point. He spends 20 minutes every week talking about how fake and irrelevant Shaub is compared to him and that he needs to fire back. If Schaub is that irrelevant (and for the most part he is) then stop going on these tirades because he is only drawing attention to Schaub's criticisms when most people weren't even looking. He just spent half an episode retaliating in a rant so deep you would think Schaub fucked his wife or something.

I think pricing himself out of the ESPN deal has made him jaded. Attacking everyone and defending himself isn't going to work, because the people who listen to him don't really give a shit anyway, and the only thing you are doing is inviting people who don't know to go listen to Schaub to see what the beef is about.

He's the griffin of mma...come on.
Now tell us who's better than him objectively ? Okamotto, iole, Thomas, yee, schmo, bryant ...name one who's better than him ?

 

[Local Plata]

Ariel must be really running out of material or ideas if he's just going to keep going with this brendal squab beef. Although I haven't been following it too closely to be honest so maybe it's not out of line or something, dunno, can't stand either of them. Wouldn't put it past either of them to completely fabricate this whole feud just for the WWE fangirls audience though.

 

[DizzyYeahYeah]

The mistake Ariel makes is the same reason he priced himself out of ESPN.

He tries to validate his own projected weight far too much. He's like the Forrest Griffin of MMA media. He made it far beyond his natural abilities should allow because he's a hard worker and made it big partly because talent was low and partly because of good fortune. And that's not a shot at Ariel or Griffin. Ariel worked his way to the face of independent MMA journalism since the beginning, which is huge, but 'independent MMA' is about his limit. Showtime and ESPN dumped him as soon as they could, and even if it was primarily Dana, it doesn't matter. He's back to his Youtube platform and that's good enough.

But this 10th 'final rebuttal' against his enemies in Schaub and Rogan is so self-destructive it's got to be ironic at this point. He spends 20 minutes every week talking about how fake and irrelevant Shaub is compared to him and that he needs to fire back. If Schaub is that irrelevant (and for the most part he is) then stop going on these tirades because he is only drawing attention to Schaub's criticisms when most people weren't even looking. He just spent half an episode retaliating in a rant so deep you would think Schaub fucked his wife or something.

I think pricing himself out of the ESPN deal has made him jaded. Attacking everyone and defending himself isn't going to work, because the people who listen to him don't really give a shit anyway, and the only thing you are doing is inviting people who don't know to go listen to Schaub to see what the beef is about.

He said ESPN low balled him. Ariel wouldn't price himself out of a contract, he literally got the contracted he wanted from another company. Money wasn't the problem, it's Dana White and everyone knows that. Pretending otherwise is stupid.

Ariel is the GOAT and it has nothing to do with luck. The Griffin comparison is not even close. Ariel has stayed on the top and is always relevant. He's probably the highest paid MMA journalist and he wins MMA journalist of the year nearly every time.

He doesn't spend 20 minutes every week talking about Schaub.

Ariel doesn't have beef with Rogan.

He didn't talk about Schaub for half the show, it was around 20 minutes of Ariel's last show which was 2 hr 32 minutes.

You're just making stuff up now. Lol

 

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Ariel ripping Schaub is getting Ariel views and more fans... because most people know Schaub is a POS and finally someone is willing to call him out. Ariel is gonna make more $ now than the shitty ESPN reoffer so who cares.

Do you think the majority of the MMA Hour viewers are invested enough in all of MMA to hear about the Shaub fiasco? I doubt it. Shit, I probably wouldn't know unless of Sherdog and MMA is the only sport I really follow. These guys present like 5 hours of verbal content a week between them. Who has time for that shit? If they both left their shit talking to just shit talking, 99% of MMA fans would know nothing of their thoughts on the other. Now Ariel is doing full videos of this nonsense.

And no way Ariel makes more than his ESPN deal. YouTube doesn't pay much when you're getting a few thousand views per video. I couldn't even tell you what other platforms he's on. I'm guessing he wouldn't have taken the first ESPN deal if it were less than his personal business was making anyway.

 

[DizzyYeahYeah]

WHY??

It looks dumb but he's trying to not get coffee on his teeth. It's a technique people do to try and keep their teeth white when drinking coffee.

 

[Billthebutcher]

ha ha ariel triggered cause schaub told on him fuckin up the brock lesnar reveal. 'wani aint gonna ever get over screwing up his own career like that.

 

[DizzyYeahYeah]

Do you think the majority of the MMA Hour viewers are invested enough in all of MMA to hear about the Shaub fiasco? I doubt it. Shit, I probably wouldn't know unless of Sherdog and MMA is the only sport I really follow. These guys present like 5 hours of verbal content a week between them. Who has time for that shit? If they both left their shit talking to just shit talking, 99% of MMA fans would know nothing of their thoughts on the other. Now Ariel is doing full videos of this nonsense.

And no way Ariel makes more than his ESPN deal. YouTube doesn't pay much when you're getting a few thousand views per video. I couldn't even tell you what other platforms he's on. I'm guessing he wouldn't have taken the first ESPN deal if it were less than his personal business was making anyway.

The views on Ariel's rants do good numbers. People are entertained by them.

He's signed with Spotify, Vox and BT sports... He also does one stuff for Showtime...

A few thousand views? He gets over 100K on popular videos.

Tyson Fury interview (on Ariel's YT channel) at 189K views from 2 days ago:

Matt Riddle interview (on BT Sport's YT channel) at 125K views from August days ago:

You're literally making stuff up <45>

 

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He said ESPN low balled him. Ariel wouldn't price himself out of a contract, he literally got the contracted he wanted from another company. Money wasn't the problem, it's Dana White and everyone knows that. Pretending otherwise is stupid.

Ariel is the GOAT and it has nothing to do with luck. The Griffin comparison is not even close. Ariel has stayed on the top and is always relevant. He's probably the highest paid MMA journalist and he wins MMA journalist of the year nearly every time.

He doesn't spend 20 minutes every week talking about Schaub.

Ariel doesn't have beef with Rogan.

He didn't talk about Schaub for half the show, it was around 20 minutes of Ariel's last show which was 2 hr 32 minutes.

You're just making stuff up now. Lol

Low balled him how? By not paying him what HE thinks he's worth? You are worth as much as people are willing to pay you for your services. ESPN was the only channel offering him a contract, so by definition you can't get low balled.

Ahh, the GOAT for independent journalism is about as lucrative as it sounds. Does journalism even cover what his show is doing? Because if hosting a show is journalism, then DC, Chael, and all the ESPN crew on UFC broadcasts are in that boat. Who do you think is earning more, these guys with ESPN contracts, or the guy with a YouTube account?

And my comparison to Griffin is an analogy and just an opinion at that. Ariel has no traits that a major channel would look for as a personality for their show. Looks? Articulation? Likeability? Presence? Please. I'm not shitting on him here, but you are a blind loyalist if you think he is those things.

Way to break down all my facts into metrics. Shit, it probably wasn't half a show, but if that was the first 20 minutes of it I wouldn't want to watch the next 2 hours.

Ariel might be the best MMA journalist, sure. But then you're bluring the line of what a journalist is and what an Analyst/Host/Lead is for a program. Ariel is a good Journalist, that's it.

 

[Jonathan Utah]

I don’t listen to any mma journalists. I only listen to Sherbros.

 

[HHJ]

Helwani trying so hard to manufacture beef

He really does. His show is alright till he starts this bullshit. That and trying to play matchmaker. That latest Val interview,he is trying so hard to force the narrative that Val and Nunes should fight again soon,when neither of them care that much about it.

 

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Do you think the majority of the MMA Hour viewers are invested enough in all of MMA to hear about the Shaub fiasco? I doubt it. Shit, I probably wouldn't know unless of Sherdog and MMA is the only sport I really follow. These guys present like 5 hours of verbal content a week between them. Who has time for that shit? If they both left their shit talking to just shit talking, 99% of MMA fans would know nothing of their thoughts on the other. Now Ariel is doing full videos of this nonsense.

And no way Ariel makes more than his ESPN deal. YouTube doesn't pay much when you're getting a few thousand views per video. I couldn't even tell you what other platforms he's on. I'm guessing he wouldn't have taken the first ESPN deal if it were less than his personal business was making anyway.

We don't have to guess. Read this comment section on his video: . Almost unanimous praise. The video has 2.8k likes to 200 dislikes. The video has over 55k views while all of his fighter interviews from the same day (today) are averaging like 7k views. The numbers don't lie: this drama is getting him clicks. Hell, even on Sherdog where most people can't stand Ariel, most are backing him over Schaub. Also, MMA fighting is most likely paying him a salary. A guy who generates as much traffic as he does across multiple platforms can outdo his ESPN contract; not to mention he's had the opportunity to work the desk for big Showtime fights like the Paul one.

 

[HHJ]

We don't have to guess. Read this comment section on his video: . Almost unanimous praise. The video has 2.8k likes to 200 dislikes. The video has over 55k views while all of his fighter interviews from the same day (today) are averaging like 7k views. The numbers don't lie: this drama is getting him clicks. Hell, even on Sherdog where most people can't stand Ariel, most are backing him over Schaub. Also, MMA fighting is most likely paying him a salary. A guy who generates as much traffic as he does across multiple platforms can outdo his ESPN contract; not to mention he's had the opportunity to work the desk for big Showtime fights like the Paul one.

I mean Its hard to pick Schaub or anyone really.

But I dont care about this shit at all. If Ariel is not interviewing a fighter,I do not care what he has to say.

 

[DizzyYeahYeah]

Low balled him how? By not paying him what HE thinks he's worth? You are worth as much as people are willing to pay you for your services. ESPN was the only channel offering him a contract, so by definition you can't get low balled.

Ahh, the GOAT for independent journalism is about as lucrative as it sounds. Does journalism even cover what his show is doing? Because if hosting a show is journalism, then DC, Chael, and all the ESPN crew on UFC broadcasts are in that boat. Who do you think is earning more, these guys with ESPN contracts, or the guy with a YouTube account?

And my comparison to Griffin is an analogy and just an opinion at that. Ariel has no traits that a major channel would look for as a personality for their show. Looks? Articulation? Likeability? Presence? Please. I'm not shitting on him here, but you are a blind loyalist if you think he is those things.

Way to break down all my facts into metrics. Shit, it probably wasn't half a show, but if that was the first 20 minutes of it I wouldn't want to watch the next 2 hours.

Ariel might be the best MMA journalist, sure. But then you're bluring the line of what a journalist is and what an Analyst/Host/Lead is for a program. Ariel is a good Journalist, that's it.

He literally says they low balled him but he was going to leave anyways. His contract was up and he got better offers.

He got what he thinks he's worth...

ESPN wasn't the only channel offering him a contract...

What is your definition of a journalist? Because Ariel still writes articles.

The griffin comparison is a bad analogy. Nothing to do with luck.

Well, Ariel had the traits and personality to host Showtimes sit down face offs with Jake Paul and Tyron Woodley...They could have got anybody to host that sit down and Showtime chose Ariel.

I don't know why you think Ariel only has a Youtube channel. Lmao

It was the last 20 minutes.

 

[ThulsaDooom]

PF Chang's CEO stickin' up for all the homeless cats out there.

Ariel talking about ethics is the pot calling the kettle black.

Explain. Post some receipts.

The mistake Ariel makes is the same reason he priced himself out of ESPN.

He tries to validate his own projected weight far too much. He's like the Forrest Griffin of MMA media. He made it far beyond his natural abilities should allow because he's a hard worker and made it big partly because talent was low and partly because of good fortune. And that's not a shot at Ariel or Griffin. Ariel worked his way to the face of independent MMA journalism since the beginning, which is huge, but 'independent MMA' is about his limit. Showtime and ESPN dumped him as soon as they could, and even if it was primarily Dana, it doesn't matter. He's back to his Youtube platform and that's good enough.

But this 10th 'final rebuttal' against his enemies in Schaub and Rogan is so self-destructive it's got to be ironic at this point. He spends 20 minutes every week talking about how fake and irrelevant Shaub is compared to him and that he needs to fire back. If Schaub is that irrelevant (and for the most part he is) then stop going on these tirades because he is only drawing attention to Schaub's criticisms when most people weren't even looking. He just spent half an episode retaliating in a rant so deep you would think Schaub fucked his wife or something.

I think pricing himself out of the ESPN deal has made him jaded. Attacking everyone and defending himself isn't going to work, because the people who listen to him don't really give a shit anyway, and the only thing you are doing is inviting people who don't know to go listen to Schaub to see what the beef is about.

The dumbest of all dumb takes. Stay in yer lane. ESPN? The network that bleeds talent. Fuck them, too.

Showtime paid Ariel and he didn't even have to do any work. Fuck them, too. Ariels fo fo'll make sure all their kids don't grow.

This has been building for years but keep on ignoring that. Brenda, Bryan, and others shitting on Ariel with passive agressive digs and lies while he kept it cool and professional. You sound like a TFATK fan. Why are you sticking up for a compulsive liar CTE case and a rapist?

 

[sonhow]

Is someone taking Brendan seriously? Or is this shit starting to resemble bullying of a potentially handicapped man?

 

[Poirierfan]

Y'all need to go on Reddit and read the shit that's being said, it's pure comedy.

Also, in my personal opinion I think Ariel would have made a top tier lawyer, well spoken and very smooth off the cuff delivery.

 

[Poirierfan]

Is someone taking Brendan seriously? Or is this shit starting to resemble bullying of a potentially handicapped man?

No and yes

 

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The views on Ariel's rants do good numbers. People are entertained by them.

He's signed with Spotify, Vox and BT sports... He also does one stuff for Showtime...

A few thousand views? He gets over 100K on popular videos.

Tyson Fury interview (on Ariel's YT channel) at 189K views from 2 days ago:

Matt Riddle interview (on BT Sport's YT channel) at 125K views from August days ago:

You're literally making stuff up <45>

I'm making stuff up? You cherry picked a few of his top videos whom obviously it was the guest that sold the show, not Ariel. On his page on YouTube his 20 last videos range from 980 - 190,000 views (being the Fury interview) with most on about 5-15k. I can't be bothered doing the math, but the clips are averaging 10k views. That would be pocket change for a YouTube revenue account.

I have friends in bands who are on Spotify. That doesn't mean them or Ariel are on Rogan spotify deals. I don't know why you are even arguing with me...are you trying to say Ariel is some sort of multi-millionaire? Because he's not and I wasn't criticising his bank account to start with. I'm also saying he's not the best personality for hosting a platform, which is subjective, but you are a blind loyalist if you think he is built for camera time.

He is an established, well prepared and prominent independent MMA journalist. Probably the best if you go by notoriety alone. What is wrong with that?

 

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I mean Its hard to pick Schaub or anyone really.

But I dont care about this shit at all. If Ariel is not interviewing a fighter,I do not care what he has to say.

Fair enough.