Media Ariel sh*** on Jon , says he is not GOAT

[Klippy]

 

[felmmando]

Most of us already knew he wasn't the GOAT.












And he lost to Gustafsson and Reyes.

And Santos.

 

[Dim1]

Jones vs Ngannou in Abu Dubai incoming

 

[JKS]

It’s just getting started. This thing is gonna follow Jon around for the next 20 years and will be last thing people remember

 

[laleggenda27]

Jones's entire prime is shrouded in PED accusations and failures. He can never be the GOAT, in the same way Barry Bonds can never be the baseball GOAT. The seemingly clean versions of them were great, but nowhere near the PED versions.

 

[snaportap21]

Watching you clowns jump on Helwanis dck because he has the same shit take as many of you is hilarious. Jones is the mma GOAT it’s really not even a debate.

Jon is great, but GSP and DJ are good answers for the goat so there kinda is a debate.

 

[AbominableJoman]

Pedhead clearly isn’t a goat. Can’t fail that many performance enhancing drug tests, and be considered a goat. Anyone that disagrees is a dung

 

[LeBron]

Just take the next step and call him a pussy. You know you want to do it!

 

[BowserJr]

 

[BowserJr]

17 title fight victories in the UFC is otherworldly dudes the GOAT and none of the extra shit matters. He’s your favorite fighters favorite fighter. Is what it is.

83 different champs since he won the belt is such gas lighting stat.

He barley fought since he won the belt. By that same logic there are even more "different champs" since gsp became champ

 

[TR1]

17 title fight victories in the UFC is otherworldly dudes the GOAT and none of the extra shit matters. He’s your favorite fighters favorite fighter. Is what it is.

"Extra shit" being stuff that disqualifies his record lol.

 

[BowserJr]

I don’t think PED discredit him

I believe all fighters at that level are in something.

Resume wise Jon is the goat

Goat debates are also subjective.

It’s hard to quantify a career. At the end of the day is personal preference.

Why keep talking. It’s clear he’s top three

Who ever you pick as goat is always debatable.

For me it’s GSP. But you can argue his loses and taping to strikes

Respectfully, his perceived defeatability & fight IQ is what puts him up there.

Is resume is fairly weak outside of his first 2 years as champ

 

[TR1]

The ped thing is funny when people act like it doesn't help. Im 40 just started taking trt and im stronger after 5 months then I ever was. I was strong before but it makes a noticeable difference. You cant tell me it doesn't help in a fight that is just not possible.

If it didn't help Jon would not risk millions in sponsorships, lost fights, and humiliation with the proceedings.

The notion that he took them "just for fun" and "they dont really do much" is the dumbest cope from his braindead fanbase.

Without being a total juice head Jones is the kind of guy who barely eeks past Thiago Santos or Reyes.

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

It’s just getting started. This thing is gonna follow Jon around for the next 20 years and will be last thing people remember

Any of you ever work in entertainment? The two spots you want to be are either the opener or the closer, regardless of medium. People remember the beginning and the end, the middle is mostly where their minds wander.

People will remember Jon as being the youngest champ, they'll remember the Bonnar spinning elbow and him dropping Machida like a sack of potatoes, then the middle will get muddied, and the end of his career after popping for roids, his inactivity, and ultimately his ducking of Aspinall will be the cornerstones of his legacy.

 

[jko1355]

I will start listening to Ariel Helwani once he decides to lift a 20 lb dumbell once...

 

[ultra321]

Jones fans...


it's really funny...

 

[ultra321]

Just take the next step and call him a pussy. You know you want to do it!

I did that....

 

[ultra321]

Jones vs Ngannou in Abu Dubai incoming

thats not gonna happen....

 

[Mike]

17 title fight victories in the UFC is otherworldly dudes the GOAT and none of the extra shit matters. He’s your favorite fighters favorite fighter. Is what it is.

The thing is breaking every single rule and cutting every corner possible in a competition isn't "extra shit"

Frankly that's the viewpoint of a person that lacks integrity. How else can someone justify saying all that matters is if you win. Then it's fine to disregard all of the rules that are supposed to ensure fair competition. No. That's not how it works in ANY competitive endeavor. Why would fighting be some special exception where it's fine to break all the rules as long as you win?


The olympics don't work like that. Either do other pro sports. Esports don't work that way. Hell if you're a serial cheater in magic the fucking gathering they will ban you for life and revoke all your tournament wins. In pretty much any competitive endeavor large or small, cheaters are shunned and banned and their wins overturned. Even in low level comp like videogames and card games cheaters aren't excused.

 

[AndrewGolota48]

In an seriousness, super dumb video where he's acting overly dramatic to try to capitalize on clicks from weird emotionally immature MMA fans that are throwing a hissy fit because they think Jones owes them endless fights like he's some kind of toy as opposed to an autonomous human being. Jones was the GOAT even before moving to HW, there is no debate to be had.