Are you religious?

[meauneau]

I agree. It's sad you get so much hate here Rip haha. Somehow people have a problem with you but turn a blind eye to dangerous atheists comparing religion to poison. You're a great guy to remain civil.

I am a dangerous man indeed. Saying the truth has always been a danger to religion.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

I'm with the guy that said people poison everything. People suck.

 

[meauneau]

A great place to start would be a list of wars started to force atheism on a population who didn't want it.
Jumping to mind are...
Um...
All those wars.

Exactly, people trying to force an ideology which was motivated by some other second order ideology. When it comes to religion it is the religious ideology that motivates the people to force it on others.

But still, this doesn't decrease the harmful effects pf the poison that is religion.

 

[dontsnitch]

Dr. Seuss has gotten edgier since I was a young.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

Dr. Seuss has gotten edgier since I was a young.

The text of the book actually teaches the lesson gently and with humor.

 

[dontsnitch]

Exactly, people trying to force an ideology which was motivated by some other second order ideology. When it comes to religion it is the religious ideology that motivates the people to force it on others.

But still, this doesn't decrease the harmful effects pf the poison that is religion.

Every ideology, political or otherwise, has an element of proselytizing, because those who hold it believe it is the best way. It's true by definition.

 

[meauneau]

Every ideology, political or otherwise, has an element of proselytizing, because those who hold it believe it is the best way. It's true by definition.

I agree. But religion has its prescriptions for how to go about with the proselytising and what todo to those who resist it. For some religions the end justifies the means.

 

[dontsnitch]

I agree. But religion has its prescriptions for how to go about with the proselytising and what todo to those who resist it. For some religions the end justifies the means.

For some, yes. That hardly means we should definitively conclude something about all religions.

 

[phoenixikki]

I woulnt go far as to call myself religious, I believe in God

 

[meauneau]

For some, yes. That hardly means we should definitively conclude something about all religions.

You can. They all have something in common, especially the fundamentalist sects. Their dogmatism, their rejection of evidence (scientific, historical, internal, etc) which contradicts it, how they act when their beliefs are threatened, etc.

 

[meauneau]

I woulnt go far as to call myself religious, I believe in God

Without religion or indoctrination why would you believe in a god? Is this the god of spinoza which is basically nature rather than a transcendent personal being?

 

[BOWHUNTER]

Jesus, is the truth.

 

[dontsnitch]

You can. They all have something in common, especially the fundamentalist sects. Their dogmatism, their rejection of evidence (scientific, historical, internal, etc) which contradicts it, how they act when their beliefs are threatened, etc.

If you need to make the distinction between fundamentalism, I'd say that's rather telling that not all religions are equal, depending on your definitions of course.

I've always felt it was futile to attempt to conclude which is "worse" religiosity or non religiosity. The metrics alone are impossible to setup, as are the controls.

 

[InvestigatorIL]

I agree. But religion has its prescriptions for how to go about with the proselytising and what todo to those who resist it. For some religions the end justifies the means.

Also atheists don't walk around being atheists on a daily bases. We just live our lives without god. We only speak about it generally when a religious person brings it up. Whereas religious folk in many cases it's just about all they talk about and that usually forces atheists to respond.

 

[sleepwalk]

Kind of on the fence here today. Not feeling altogether religious today but I would say that it could be said to be my "default setting." Labels are sticky by definition, I guess.

Is there such a thing as a Zen Catholic? Perhaps I could be considered a very religious agnostic as I often ponder the nature of G-d, including various interpretations. This, of course, in keeping with my people's edict of finding elements of truth in all faiths and ideas.

I find that panentheism is likely based on our current understanding of the universe (including the practical inevitability of existence beyond our reasoning or even ability to reason) and that even reductionism cannot discount certain interpretations of deism.

But that's just me. Do your thing. Just be sure to be cool with it and to do it well.

 

[TeTe]

The mods needs Jesus in their life.

Naw, I'll stick with being a Buddhist, we don't believe in a singular God.

Now other mods? They probably worship the devil..... Poor ripskater

 

[meauneau]

Also atheists don't walk around being atheists on a daily bases. We just live our lives without god. We only speak about it generally when a religious person brings it up. Whereas religious folk in many cases it's just about all they talk about and that usually forces atheists to respond.

Exactly. And if you express your disbelief they become sory for you and will pray for you as if you were in a disadvantaged position in life. In a way it makes sense from their perspective because they can see how one could cope in life without the psychological crutch that is religion. They think we are all handicapped and suffering in life. How sad.

 

[InvestigatorIL]

Exactly. And if you express your disbelief they become sory for you and will pray for you as if you were in a disadvantaged position in life. In a way it makes sense from their perspective because they can see how one could cope in life without the psychological crutch that is religion. They think we are all handicapped and suffering in life. How sad.

I think it comes from a sense of self doubt that religious folk feel the need to make everyone else believe the way they believe. I do not feel the need to constantly speak of my atheism or even bring it into my daily life at all. The only time it usually comes up is when I post in here lol. Yes, I find it ridiculous and kind of weird that relatively intelligent people can believe in a sky god but it is so refreshing to not have to live like someone is watching me and judging me all the time.

I've been a believer and a non believer and in every way being a non believer is much better.

 

[dontsnitch]

Exactly. And if you express your disbelief they become sory for you and will pray for you as if you were in a disadvantaged position in life. In a way it makes sense from their perspective because they can see how one could cope in life without the psychological crutch that is religion. They think we are all handicapped and suffering in life. How sad.

This argument cuts both ways. You can't express how sorry you feel for religious people by noting that they feel sorry for non-religious people.

This isn't about epistemology, it's about consistency. If you believe your world-view is superior enough for you to adhere to, you naturally want people to adhere to it, too. If you are humane, and you believe God is fictitious and thus harmful, you would want your family and friends to disavow these views.

 

[meauneau]

If you need to make the distinction between fundamentalism, I'd say that's rather telling that not all religions are equal, depending on your definitions of course.

I've always felt it was futile to attempt to conclude which is "worse" religiosity or non religiosity. The metrics alone are impossible to setup, as are the controls.

The metrics aren't the point. The point is that religion causes people to act irrationally (refuse blood/organ transplants to save a life, refuse abortions, stop the advancement of science if it goes against religious doctrines, spread false ideas as if they were scientific, silencing free speech with terrorism, etc.

All these things stem from their divine texts which are supposed to be infallible, immutable and authoritative for all humanity. There isn't such thing for atheist. The closest thing would be humanism and such ideas but of course it is openly acknowledged that it is not divine but man made.