Are you religious?

Are you religious?

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colby25 said:
you don't see the problem with your argument?

It's like someone saying hey man there's a walmart at the end of the road if you want to pick up some house hold goods and you reply no, i don't believe that. That's impossible to know and just stay put in your house watching tv refusing to go outside and check for yourself.
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LOL, wut? That's not impossible to know. I can physically go check if there is a Wallmart at the end of the road, and know for a fact if what I heard was true.

doesn't make sense to me
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Well, it seems that finding out if a physical object exists or not confuses you, so your bewilderment on this doesn't exactly surprise me.
 
meauneau said:
I agree. But in this case it irrational to believe some of the moral claims which fall out of line with our morality. If the torah was not revealed to moses from god and there is no heaven or hell for following it or not then there is no reason to observe the sabbath, eat kosher only, not eat pork or shrimp, etc.


I am not an atheist based on occam. I only mentioned simplicity in the natural explanation over the supernatural one. How you concluded what you did is beyond me.
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It should be noted that Christians do not adhere to the rules you've stated as things that are immoral. Christians don't observe the Sabbath or eat kosher. Christianity is founded on the golden rule.
 
HereticBD said:
I can physically go check if there is a Wallmart at the end of the road, and know for a fact if what I heard was true.

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EXACTLY!

And you can physically PRAY to God - seek God and know for a fact that He is true.
 
meauneau said:
So believe and then you will see?
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Seek and you will find.

and i guess that's true too since Jesus said:

Then Jesus said, "Did I not tell you that if you believe, you will see the glory of God?"

soo -yes you are correct.
 
colby25 said:
Seek and you will find.

and i guess that's true too since Jesus said:

Then Jesus said, "Did I not tell you that if you believe, you will see the glory of God?"

soo -yes you are correct.
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People believe in all kinds of gods and see them. Are they right too? They also tell people to seek so they can find.
 
I was raised in a Christian house, went to church and Sunday school, and really tried to believe. Many of my family members, people I love and respect, are religious. I just never was able to buy on to the whole story because it's so flawed. Asking the simplest questions about it makes the whole house of cards fall. Also, after going to school and learning history and other cultures/religions it was also very obvious to me that religion is man-made.
 
Hit-N-Run said:
I was raised in a Christian house, went to church and Sunday school, and really tried to believe. Many of my family members, people I love and respect, are religious. I just never was able to buy on to the whole story because it's so flawed. Asking the simplest questions about it makes the whole house of cards fall. Also, after going to school and learning history and other cultures/religions it was also very obvious to me that religion is man-made.
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what simple question make the whole house of cards fall?
 
meauneau said:
Without religion or indoctrination why would you believe in a god? Is this the god of spinoza which is basically nature rather than a transcendent personal being?
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Not entirely. I believe God is a concept beyond human perception
 
colby25 said:
Have you sought Jesus Christ?
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Why should someone have to actively seek him? Shouldn't he seek us if he cared so much? Basically you are saying one must force themselves to believe in him which is precisely correct. I know your answer to this is (he does seek us and it's up to you to accept him) but I do not accept this as if you were born in Baghdad, Iraq you would be a Muslim
 
InvestigatorIL said:
Why should someone have to actively seek him? Shouldn't he seek us if he cared so much? Basically you are saying one must force themselves to believe in him which is precisely correct. I know your answer to this is (he does seek us and it's up to you to accept him) but I do not accept this as if you were born in Baghdad, Iraq you would be a Muslim
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No not necessarily. Look at all of the Christians being murdered for their beliefs in the middle east. Christianity STARTED in the middle east after all long before Islam.

But why should one actively seek him? Shouldn't he seek us if he cared so much? well He cares so much that he laid down His life for you long before you were born and still a sinner who denies Him (as you are right now.)

How many people have you laid your life down for?

Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one's life for one's friends.

Jesus died for you- that's how much He cares for you - is it too much to ask to pray to Him and seek Him after all He's done for you?
 
I originally wrote a really long post, but I'll keep it short because it doesn't matter anyhow.

Hopefully, in the near future, everyone will figure out that believing in what Middle Easterners said happened is a stupid idea. Why we can't all just admit that we don't know what happened is beyond me. Religion has stifled science at every turn, and science is the only one of the two that can prove it's statements.
 
jgarner said:
I originally wrote a really long post, but I'll keep it short because it doesn't matter anyhow.

Hopefully, in the near future, everyone will figure out that believing in what Middle Easterners said happened is a stupid idea. Why we can't all just admit that we don't know what happened is beyond me. Religion has stifled science at every turn, and science is the only one of the two that can prove it's statements.
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Can science do anything for you after you die? Can it do it anything for your soul?
 
colby25 said:
EXACTLY!

And you can physically PRAY to God - seek God and know for a fact that He is true.
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You can physically pray to what you believe is God. You have no way, I repeat, NO POSSIBLE WAY of knowing if God is real or not. None. It's simply a belief. Faith if you will. Not a fact by any stretch of the imagination.
 
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