Arab-Israeli Conflict: Part 1

[Cuauhtemoc]

I want to make sure I have enough stock of canned beans when rapture takes place. Hopefully we bomb Iran and steal their beans.

I'm pretty sure the rapture can melt steel beans.

 

[IGIT]

I want to make sure I have enough stock of canned beans when rapture takes place. Hopefully we bomb Iran and steal their beans.

hi CERORVFC,

if i actually believed in The Rapture™ i'd be saying goodbye to ripskater, and other good folk here in the War Room, telling them how much i'd miss them when God swoops down out of the heavens and takes IGIT to the "good place".

- IGIT

 

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

Exactly. I'm kind neutral on this resolution, but the bottom line is that it doesn't matter.

Pro:
Settlements are against the law.
Israel/jews are not friendly with westerners.

Cons:
The other side is no friends with the west.

I'm not american but if I was I'd really hate Israel. It receives tons of funding and that's how they reply?

I mean it though. This condemnation doesn't magically rewrite any borders. The article in the OP is intentionally vitriolic and misleading: "the wailing wall is now Palestinian territory!" No it is not.

 

[Sycho Sid]

So unless Netanyahu (Not necessarily Israel) is allowed to go balls deep it is considered a betrayal?

 

[M3t4tr0n]

Netanyahu is a fucking cry baby bitch.

 

[seiger]

Decent article.

Link Source : https://www.raptureready.com/soap2/ward77.html

Full Article (warning tl;dr below)

"Friday 23rd December, 2016, will go down in history as a day of infamy for the United States. America, under the leadership of Barack Obama, have finally, and irrevocably, betrayed Israel. Choosing to abstain from a United Nations Security Council resolution condemning Israel, which declares all settlements outside the 1967 borders as illegal, Obama has effectively offered up Israel on a plate to her enemies at the United Nations.

How cruel, how tyrannical, that this lame duck president chooses to use his few remaining days in office to curse Israel. In defiance of all diplomatic protocol, Obama is hoping to present Donald Trump with a fait accompli when he assumes office in late January. At this point, there is nothing President Trump can do to aid Israel. The damage is already done.

Yet the betrayal goes deeper than merely a vote to abstain. Much deeper. The original motion of condemnation against Israeli “settlements” was tabled by Egypt, who quickly withdrew it due to pressure from president-elect Trump.

However, Obama and his team worked to out flank Trump. Obama went instead to New Zealand and Malaysia, getting them to table the motion in Egypt’s stead. Trump was powerless to stop it.

The motion of condemnation was then tabled, the United States abstained, and the remaining UN Security Council members, sensing blood, pounced on Israel.

Israel are now completely isolated, they are legally exposed and have been wholly condemned by all the world. All of this to Obama’s eternal shame.

Amongst other things this vote now means that the Wailing Wall, currently the most holy site in modern Judaism, this morning stands firmly on Palestinian land. The Temple Mount has been ripped from Israel’s grasp and has been given to Islam.

It means that Jews living in Jewish East Jerusalem can now no longer build any homes and occupy their own ancient capital city. It means that Obama, and America because he leads them, have effectively divided the land God gave to the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

The so called “peace process” is now dead. This vote has ensured the failure of all potential future negotiations. This vote means that the Palestinians will now demand all settlements as their legal land, and that will be the starting point for all their negotiations. All future negotiations for peace will now begin with the understanding that the 1967 lines are the starting point, not the end point.

Before this vote, the best the Palestinians could have hoped for would have been an Israeli retreat to the 1967 borders.

Israel will now be expected, by the international community, to retreat back to the 1948 lines, not the 1967 borders. In international diplomacy, and Obama knows this well, this 1948 line is known by another term; it is known as the Auschwitz line. Any retreat behind this Auschwitz line is militarily indefensible.

Obama, in allowing this vote to progress without a U.S. veto, has knowingly endangered the continued existence of Israel itself as a viable state. He no doubt hopes that one day soon Israel will be forced to retreat behind a border that will not allow for the adequate protection of the Jewish State.

Obama has actively sought to bring about the conditions necessary for Israel’s final destruction.

Barack Obama has cursed Israel. He hasn’t simply abstained from a UN vote; he is actively attempting to seal Israel's future doom.

God is clear. Whoever blesses Israel will be blessed, whoever curses Israel will be cursed. America, under Barack Obama’s leadership have now, for the very first time actively cursed Israel. A red line has been crossed.

In my opinion, all we can now do is wait for the judgment that will now fall. It will fall on Barack Obama personally, and terrifyingly, on the United States corporately because he leads them, and there is nothing that Donald Trump can do to stop it."

Almost time folks, almost time...

Obama is not the Israeli President.

He is not pledged to be loyal to Israel.

When will people take a second to process the fact that USA and Israel are two different nations, and Obama is not meant to be loyal to Israel whatever fuckeries Israel does, and block recourse to law at the UN for its victims.

 

[M3t4tr0n]

I understand brother, I was just taking a different perspective from it then you did. Essentially I did not want to bog your thread down with mine.

Thank you for the kind gesture.

Meh his thread sucked anyways

 

[M3t4tr0n]

hi Seraldo Babalu,

maybe Bibi will return the Iron Dome missile defense system that Mr. Obama gave our Israeli friends - don't hold your breath.

you know what's really weird? Putin, everyone's favorite foreign leader, voted for the measure to condemn Israel for its illegal settlements. how come the much beloved Vladimir isn't getting any criticism here?

- IGIT

Good point on Putin. How are Trumpsters shitting on Obama over this but still have boners for Puty pie?

 

[Goatenstein]

Israel needs to grow a pair and fight the muslims for land.

 

[IGIT]

Good point on Putin. How are Trumpsters shitting on Obama over this but still have boners for Puty pie?

hello M3t4tr0n,

its probably very difficult for them to reconcile.

that's why no one has commented on it.

lol.

- IGIT

 

[panamaican]

Depends on who and when you ask.

Did you find my prior post about borders on page 2 useful at all?

It had information I'm pretty much aware of. My general question is more about the new settlements. My very limited understanding is that new settlements are taking on new territory, not just filling in territory that was captured during the previous war. Am I incorrect on that?

 

[BrotherClaudio]

Fuck Israel

 

[BrotherClaudio]

In the ass

 

[ncordless]

If you think about it, Obama is doing us a huge favor by delaying the rapture. We ought to bomb Israel, regrade the Temple Mount, and nuke it every 5-10 years to permanently avoid the rapture.

Suck it, God. If you make specific requirements for the rapture, we can just avoid the requirements.

 

[TheComebackKid]

Decent article.

Link Source : https://www.raptureready.com/soap2/ward77.html

Full Article (warning tl;dr below)

"Friday 23rd December, 2016, will go down in history as a day of infamy for the United States. America, under the leadership of Barack Obama, have finally, and irrevocably, betrayed Israel. Choosing to abstain from a United Nations Security Council resolution condemning Israel, which declares all settlements outside the 1967 borders as illegal, Obama has effectively offered up Israel on a plate to her enemies at the United Nations.

How cruel, how tyrannical, that this lame duck president chooses to use his few remaining days in office to curse Israel. In defiance of all diplomatic protocol, Obama is hoping to present Donald Trump with a fait accompli when he assumes office in late January. At this point, there is nothing President Trump can do to aid Israel. The damage is already done.

Yet the betrayal goes deeper than merely a vote to abstain. Much deeper. The original motion of condemnation against Israeli “settlements” was tabled by Egypt, who quickly withdrew it due to pressure from president-elect Trump.

However, Obama and his team worked to out flank Trump. Obama went instead to New Zealand and Malaysia, getting them to table the motion in Egypt’s stead. Trump was powerless to stop it.

The motion of condemnation was then tabled, the United States abstained, and the remaining UN Security Council members, sensing blood, pounced on Israel.

Israel are now completely isolated, they are legally exposed and have been wholly condemned by all the world. All of this to Obama’s eternal shame.

Amongst other things this vote now means that the Wailing Wall, currently the most holy site in modern Judaism, this morning stands firmly on Palestinian land. The Temple Mount has been ripped from Israel’s grasp and has been given to Islam.

It means that Jews living in Jewish East Jerusalem can now no longer build any homes and occupy their own ancient capital city. It means that Obama, and America because he leads them, have effectively divided the land God gave to the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

The so called “peace process” is now dead. This vote has ensured the failure of all potential future negotiations. This vote means that the Palestinians will now demand all settlements as their legal land, and that will be the starting point for all their negotiations. All future negotiations for peace will now begin with the understanding that the 1967 lines are the starting point, not the end point.

Before this vote, the best the Palestinians could have hoped for would have been an Israeli retreat to the 1967 borders.

Israel will now be expected, by the international community, to retreat back to the 1948 lines, not the 1967 borders. In international diplomacy, and Obama knows this well, this 1948 line is known by another term; it is known as the Auschwitz line. Any retreat behind this Auschwitz line is militarily indefensible.

Obama, in allowing this vote to progress without a U.S. veto, has knowingly endangered the continued existence of Israel itself as a viable state. He no doubt hopes that one day soon Israel will be forced to retreat behind a border that will not allow for the adequate protection of the Jewish State.

Obama has actively sought to bring about the conditions necessary for Israel’s final destruction.

Barack Obama has cursed Israel. He hasn’t simply abstained from a UN vote; he is actively attempting to seal Israel's future doom.

God is clear. Whoever blesses Israel will be blessed, whoever curses Israel will be cursed. America, under Barack Obama’s leadership have now, for the very first time actively cursed Israel. A red line has been crossed.

In my opinion, all we can now do is wait for the judgment that will now fall. It will fall on Barack Obama personally, and terrifyingly, on the United States corporately because he leads them, and there is nothing that Donald Trump can do to stop it."

Almost time folks, almost time...

Absolutely shameful

 

[RockstarChris]

I'm not taking Obama's side, but Obama was pissed at Israel for fucking with the Stuxnet code. Had Israel left the code alone, instead of making the virus more aggressive, it most likely would still be working. Instead, Israel made the virus more aggressive, then the Iranians found it and the gig was up. That forced us to make a shitty deal with Iran.

Nobody should be able to force us to do anything. I can't wait until Jan 20th.

 

[Gandhi]

Israel needs to grow a pair and fight the muslims for land.

Sarcasm tags?

 

[mcveteran81]

Obama gave Israel 38 billion dollars, i would certainly want to be betrayed by him.

Money with no land is immaterial. The prize has always been and always will be the land. Specifically it is so important that God Himself has set that land aside for Himself and His people.

38 billion is nothing. Currency itself these days is fictitious really. Economies are essentially based on the whims of governments / politics / and world banks. 38 billion today can easily become nothing tomorrow. So much of money is just perception.

 

[Pwent]

i dislike obama and hate what the country of israel does

obama was right to distance himself from them when they are clearly taking illegal actions and settling land that isnt theirs

we shouldnt let them drag us down with them. theyre like a skinny kid who picks fights and then runs to their big brother whenever someone does something back

 

[Pwent]

Money with no land is immaterial. The prize has always been and always will be the land. Specifically it is so important that God Himself has set that land aside for Himself and His people.

38 billion is nothing. Currency itself these days is fictitious really. Economies are essentially based on the whims of governments / politics / and world banks. 38 billion today can easily become nothing tomorrow. So much of money is just perception.

if 38 billion is fictitious and meaningless, i would love for them to give it to me instead