April 17 Triller: Ben Askren vs Logan Paul (Mega)

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Fzubek said:
I don't dispute that Paul brothers are boxing professionally because they can generate money. Of course that's the only reason they are fighting, they will never be elite fighters and they have no aspirations of being contenders. I agree with you.

However that is a false standard you are putting on them.. if you have spent as much time as you act like around boxers and the sport in general, you would know most professional boxers aren't turning pro because they are skilled. They are turning pro to make a quick buck.

You say you are a boxer and spar newly minted pros as if that means ANYTHING. It doesn't, at all and you would know that if you are experienced. You can't just decide you are going to be a pro footballer, but you CAN just decide to box professionally. You don't have to demonstrate skill or prove to be adequate in the ring, it's a PHYSICAL and a form with a fee.

That is what almost all of professional business boxing comprises of, no hopers who want a quick buck.

That is the average professional boxer. The average pro boxer is not an amateur stud, there are VERY few of those.

You think either Paul brother would look out of place on a card at a reservation during a Saturday night in the midwest? Get out of here. They would look exceptional.

You are all delusional thinking what you see in TV is at all indicative of what passes as professional boxing all across the US.

It's the same with amateur shows, do not kid yourself. There is a reason why the boxers of this decade are a lot less skilled than the generation before them.
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Years ago, I wrote an email to Kevin Iole when he did regular articles on Yahoo regarding boxing.

I asked him if he predicts that we will see more and more young men become pro boxers with zero amateur experience to make some money... specifically due to college debt. He replied that he didn't think it will happen.

Your post reminded me of that email.

Boxing is not like the NFL, NBA, MLB or NHL. In many states, you just need to pass a physical (if that) to become a pro boxer, a professional athlete.

I imagine there are lots of 25 year olds that are working an underpaying job and being crushed with student debt with their BA in Communications that are on boxrec thinking "I can beat this guy that is 3-18 in Missouri."
 
Askren's physically done, very slow and sluggish due to injuries, and his stand-up skills were always awful. As a pro MMA fighter though, he still has good conditioning and toughness.

I think he'd lose to a lot of amateurs, but I'm not sure Paul can even be called an amateur. This is going to be ugly.
 
Fluffernutter said:
Years ago, I wrote an email to Kevin Iole when he did regular articles on Yahoo regarding boxing.

I asked him if he predicts that we will see more and more young men become pro boxers with zero amateur experience to make some money... specifically due to college debt. He replied that he didn't think it will happen.

Your post reminded me of that email.

Boxing is not like the NFL, NBA, MLB or NHL. In many states, you just need to pass a physical (if that) to become a pro boxer, a professional athlete.

I imagine there are lots of 25 year olds that are working an underpaying job and being crushed with student debt with their BA in Communications that are on boxrec thinking "I can beat this guy that is 3-18 in Missouri."
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It's an interesting thought for sure. I don't think MORE people will start doing that, but I would say that's what MOST of it is. Almost all professional boxers do it for money on the side. Very few can box and spar for a living. But it's also a really rough way to earn several hundred dollars lol.

It's hilarious seeing people rate the average amateur and pro boxer so highly in this thread.
 
I dont get how anyone would pay even one dollar for such a crap fest. Are people really that easy to fool?

A YT celebrity and a retired mma fighter with zero stand up skills who moves like a spastic. I just dont get it. People may crucify me but there are plenty of sherdog members who would lay a beatdown on Askren in pure boxing.
He is less than crap. Far from amateur level boxing. 50$ for the PPV and as a bonus Tarver vs Frank Mir <Lmaoo><Lmaoo>
 
Because Mike Perry himself is a Boxing expert we should listen too.

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I'm expecting ben to get boxed up but not quite stopped.

Ben's definitely the better fighter of the 2, but no chance he's a better boxer. Not even an equal in boxing, I just can't help but be prepared to see MMA take some ugly Ls that night. Mir vs. Tarver will be even worse
 
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