Opinion AOC = Trump of the Left.

[ferrisjso]

Max Boot wrote a column on how AOC views facts like Trump in early January. He said at the end she is more like Palin.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...mp-does/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.0b25024be003

What makes Ocasio-Cortez’s errors especially troubling was her response when called out by Anderson Cooper on “60 Minutes.” “I think that there’s a lot of people more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right,” she complained.

Ocasio-Cortez partially redeemed herself with a tweet the next day: “Fact-checking is critically important. It’s not always fun. But that’s okay! It pushes me to be better.”

But her initial response displayed a cavalier attitude toward the truth similar to that of President Trump — who is, to be sure, a far more energetic purveyor of falsehoods.

That attitude doesn't come with actual examples though. Still the corporate putos need to be more understanding of the moral implications of their barbarism.

 

[Andy Capp]

Or she talks out of her ass and when called on it says I’m a woman of color

If you keep repeating this does she become less scary for you? Or does it just give you a little chubby to type that and think of her?

I.e. How about a source for her emphasizing her ethnicity to avoid confronting facts?

 

[cincymma79]

If you keep repeating this does she become less scary for you? Or does it just give you a little chubby to type that and think of her?

I.e. How about a source for her emphasizing her ethnicity to avoid confronting facts?

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Case in point
Anyone else in here want to provide and example or two since this guys google is broked

 

[sickc0d3r]

Health Insurers are inherent murderers based on their business model you allowing them to continue to exist is not acceptable. That isn't ideological, I want the slaughter to end.

I don't know where you got the idea that I support letting people die so insurance companies can avoid paying for care. Nothing I posted or agreed with implies that. Maybe take your meds and get back to me?

 

[ferrisjso]

I don't know where you got the idea that I support letting people die so insurance companies can avoid paying for care. Nothing I posted or agreed with implies that. Maybe take your meds and get back to me?

Supporting health Insurance companies existing in general is supporting murder because murder is either an inherent part of their business model or instead of single payer you'd have to give them enourmous subsidies which would equate to single payer with a middle man third party taking money. The business model is murder, they want to pay for as little health care as the law allows to give money to their shareholders. It's not an unfortunate byproduct of the business it is the business itself.

 

[D3thr0n3d K1ng]

Or she talks out of her ass and when called on it says I’m a woman of color

"BROWN WOMAN BAD!!!"

 

[Islam Imamate]

Max Boot wrote a column on how AOC views facts like Trump in early January. He said at the end she is more like Palin.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...mp-does/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.0b25024be003

What makes Ocasio-Cortez’s errors especially troubling was her response when called out by Anderson Cooper on “60 Minutes.” “I think that there’s a lot of people more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right,” she complained.

Ocasio-Cortez partially redeemed herself with a tweet the next day: “Fact-checking is critically important. It’s not always fun. But that’s okay! It pushes me to be better.”

But her initial response displayed a cavalier attitude toward the truth similar to that of President Trump — who is, to be sure, a far more energetic purveyor of falsehoods.

Honestly I get what she's trying to say. Some people want to nitpick this or that minutia instead of addressing the larger moral issue.

 

[deviake]

She's smarter and her "radical" ness is largely just centrist/left in developed countries outside of the US. Her tax rate suggestion has already been done in the US decades ago and worked great. Her extreme green deal is just going off of what scientists say needs to happen to keep global warming from getting out of hand. She's actually legitimately bucking the establishment but nothing she's proposing is really that radical, it only seems like it to mis/uniformed people.

Trump filled his cabinet with neocons and bankers, not exactly anti-establishment other than his rhetoric and lack of ability to form a coherent thought.

She's also not a piece of shit human who was handed a million bucks by daddy.

 

[cincymma79]

"BROWN WOMAN BAD!!!"

Couldn’t have made my case any clearer

 

[Senzo Tanaka]

She's more of the left version of Sarah Palin. I agree with her on some things but she just comes across a bit batshit crazy and naive. What do you expect from someone in their 20s that thinks they can change politics though.

 

[Andy Capp]

My what? Where did I ever mention that?

You're appalling to anecdotal evidence, something I can't refute but honestly is of little value to me. What I'm talking about is structural, just think about it for just a second. We live in a market economy, which is great because the market is excellent at distributing goods and services. But people who can't work aren't going to be inherently disadvantaged and that generally means the elderly, children, and the disabled. Are there able bodied adults who can but don't work because they are lazy? Sure, of course there are and that can't be avoided. But here's what the poor look like at the big picture level


So over half of the poor are children, the elderly, the disabled, or caretakers of them.

Those aren't mutually exclusive, actually they should be mutually reinforcing. The state can help poor people in ways churches and humanitarian groups can't and vice versa. The state is no replacement for community level, grassroots organizing and charity but that shouldn't mean we should only rely on the latter.

*appealing, yes? Captain Pedantic here, just clarifying.
Significantly, where "Only 7 percent of nonparticipants—4 percent of the working-age poor overall—gave other reasons for nonparticipation," this number is further reduced when other perfectly understandable reasons for "nonparticipation" are accounted for. The number of "just don't wanna work" individuals so small, it's practically insignificant relative to the wider problem.

Max Boot wrote a column on how AOC views facts like Trump in early January. He said at the end she is more like Palin.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...mp-does/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.0b25024be003

What makes Ocasio-Cortez’s errors especially troubling was her response when called out by Anderson Cooper on “60 Minutes.” “I think that there’s a lot of people more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right,” she complained.

Ocasio-Cortez partially redeemed herself with a tweet the next day: “Fact-checking is critically important. It’s not always fun. But that’s okay! It pushes me to be better.”

But her initial response displayed a cavalier attitude toward the truth similar to that of President Trump — who is, to be sure, a far more energetic purveyor of falsehoods.

Willingness to admit she has made an error instantly distinguishes her from Trump. I'm not in favor of making up numbers, but there is no comparison there.

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Case in point
Anyone else in here want to provide and example or two since this guys google is broked

Or why don't you provide evidence of your claim since you're the one nauseatingly repeating it like a broken record?

 

[Senzo Tanaka]

This is nothing against AOC but did you know her starting pay is 175k a year? Maybe the first thing we can start with is not paying our politicians wages of that of a celebrity or high ranking executive. Politicians should be civil servants making the same wages as the average citizen they are serving. You combine with that with making lobbying illegal and then maybe you'll only get people that care running.

 

[7437]

She always right even when she verifiably wrong and if you disagree it’s because she’s a woman of color

Quality alternative fact.

 

[Higus]

This is nothing against AOC but did you know her starting pay is 175k a year? Maybe the first thing we can start with is not paying our politicians wages of that of a celebrity or high ranking executive. Politicians should be civil servants making the same wages as the average citizen they are serving. You combine with that with making lobbying illegal and then maybe you'll only get people that care running.

175k is not a lot, for such a demanding job. Most of Congress is independently wealthy before getting elected because the pay would be a huge step down from what they were making in the private sector.
It's actually refreshing to be able to elect someone who isn't a millionaire with tons of conflicts of interest.

 

[brackis1]

Was just thinking this myself as I read her latest twitter comment on NFL owners refusing to hire Kaepernick - apparently unaware that he turned down the last contract he was offered.

lol it's so funny to watch right wing idiots fail to grasp football, let alone politics. I mean fuck that should be your bread and butter, but you can't help but completely ignoring rules and facts of the sports when it helps pat yourself on the back with anti Kaep nonsense.
That entire thing was a made up lie by Elway meant to fool people like yourself

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/08/nfl-broncos-john-elway-colin-kaepernick-contract-collusion-case

 

[brackis1]

This is nothing against AOC but did you know her starting pay is 175k a year? Maybe the first thing we can start with is not paying our politicians wages of that of a celebrity or high ranking executive. Politicians should be civil servants making the same wages as the average citizen they are serving. You combine with that with making lobbying illegal and then maybe you'll only get people that care running.

Did you know that I have multiple friends who make that much money and they spend their evenings in sexless relationships playing videogames after work?
Watching people cry over 175k Congressional salary while billion dollar pork fund deals get pushed thru congress is both sad and hilarious. It's like watching a small child in awe of a hundred dollar bill: the scope of the world is too large for you to grasp.

 

[computer fogie]

She's smarter and her "radical" ness is largely just centrist/left in developed countries outside of the US. Her tax rate suggestion has already been done in the US decades ago and worked great. Her extreme green deal is just going off of what scientists say needs to happen to keep global warming from getting out of hand. She's actually legitimately bucking the establishment but nothing she's proposing is really that radical, it only seems like it to mis/uniformed people.

Trump filled his cabinet with neocons and bankers, not exactly anti-establishment other than his rhetoric and lack of ability to form a coherent thought.

She's also not a piece of shit human who was handed a million bucks by daddy.

This.

She aims high, and seems to have the best interests of the country in mind. The fact that she seems radical to some of us is an indication of how much we need people like her in politics. She's a rookie, and will have to deal with the harsh realities of the political world in DC. She needs a lot of cooperation from colleagues to effect the big changes she wants, and she will find that an uphill battle. I hope she's undaunted and keeps fighting.

 

[chardog]

She's more of the left version of Sarah Palin. I agree with her on some things but she just comes across a bit batshit crazy and naive. What do you expect from someone in their 20s that thinks they can change politics though.

Couldn’t have said it better. Sure, chances are, we can share many ideals, but coming off like an adolescent doesn’t help your case. I don’t even consider her radical, simply immature.

Find it hilarious that many in the war room think she’s the next best thing. She can definitely rally her base, but she’s missing major IQ points, I’m not talking a small amount either.

 

[chardog]

This.

She aims high, and seems to have the best interests of the country in mind. The fact that she seems radical to some of us is an indication of how much we need people like her in politics. She's a rookie, and will have to deal with the harsh realities of the political world in DC. She needs a lot of cooperation from colleagues to effect the big changes she wants, and she will find that an uphill battle. I hope she's undaunted and keeps fighting.

She’s a student council member in Congress.

 

[Captain Davis]

This is nothing against AOC but did you know her starting pay is 175k a year? Maybe the first thing we can start with is not paying our politicians wages of that of a celebrity or high ranking executive. Politicians should be civil servants making the same wages as the average citizen they are serving. You combine with that with making lobbying illegal and then maybe you'll only get people that care running.

And term limits. 2 terms is enough. There should never be a life long politician. I’m against making a politician a full time job. Once one makes a living doing something, they are less likely to do what’s best for others they will do what’s best for themselves.